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Another kid dies after hit during HS football game. Dad says stupid shit afterwards.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...yer-luke-schemm-scores-touchdown-dies-n457786

Clearly something is wrong here and high schools need to figure it out.

What really bothers me about this particular case is the comments by the dad afterwards (taken from this video: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/high-school-football-player-dies-after-hit/vi-BBmS630?ocid=iehp

"You take on risk. We're glad that our children don't hold back but put themselves out there fully. Life without risk is no life at all."

Also, from the article above:

However, the teen's dad said he had asked coaches at the school not to postpone forthcoming games.

"He lived life with a passion, and that's what we want to see the team do," he said. "And I told the coach I don't care if you win or lose, I want these boys, and I want these kids to lay it all out there on that field."

"I don't care." Yeah, clearly. What a fucking idiot.
 
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Everyone handles grief in different ways. Not sure any one of us can understand what he is going through, and calling him "a fucking idiot" based off of a snippet of a article doesn't really seem like something we should do.

edit: A better quote from the father to balance out the selective quoting from the OP:

"We have come to terms that Luke, our beautiful gift from God, is no longer with us," Luke's father, David Schemm, told reporters. "Luke gave everything in life he had, in every moment. As a son, a brother and a friend."
 

BronsonLee

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Yeah, I'm not going to go after the dad for statements he's making right after his son has died.
 

Artanisix

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"I don't care." Yeah, clearly. What a fucking idiot.

what?

i mean obviously something is totally wrong if teens are dying on the football field but "i don't care" isn't even the full quote, at least put some effort into it
 
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Everyone handles grief in different ways. Not sure any one of us can understand what he is going through, and calling him "a fucking idiot" based off of a snippet of a article doesn't really seem like something we should do.

So he deals with grief by telling the coaches that nothing needs to happen and telling them to keep sending OTHER people's kids out there?

Sorry no. The dad is clearly a simpleton. You take risks and, yeah, you might die, but football must go on. That's his perspective.
 

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That one single quote, taken out of the entirety of the context, could very well fit into a paragraph of "It's terribly tragic and horrific that this happened, but, at least he died doing what he loved".

Let's please not focus on that one single sentence that he said.
 

Mammoth Jones

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I mean, his son is dead. If they loved football and this is how he's working through his grieving process I'm not going to hold it against him. Fuck, the whole "everyone must support *my" stance on policies or they're an asshole" is really disappointing.


I would never ever let my kids play football. Fuck that shit.

I mean, did he die from a hit? Or just a heart defect due to too much activity. Article only says he scored a touch-down and ran to the sidelines and collapsed.

Edit: the video indicates brain injury from the hit.

My stance is teens need to be informed of the risks along with their parents and make a decision to play or not as a family. It's a fun activity but you can get hurt doing it.
 

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So what's the mom's response?

Anything short of divorce papers would be insane, since the father is obviously a nutjob. I understand enjoying football, but he's taken the position that football is more important than the life of his son. People like that don't deserve to have kids.
 

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"I don't care." Yeah, clearly. What a fucking idiot.

I don't see him saying anything like that at all. He is obviously proud of his son. Don't share the same thoughts as he does, but I don't see it as fair game to rip into a father for grieving in his own way.
 

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Everyone handles grief in different ways. Not sure any one of us can understand what he is going through, and calling him "a fucking idiot" based off of a snippet of a article doesn't really seem like something we should do.

I agree with this. No one knows what the guy is feeling inside. Just because it's not the way you would go through things, doesn't mean he should be ridiculed for what he's saying. If he wants to honor his son by saying that he lived his life to the fullest without a care, who are we to counter what he's saying/feeling?
 
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I'd rather not judge a man after he just lost his son in a freak incident, even if the sport is inherently violent and does have a small chance of producing said freak incident.

But I'm more than happy judging some of you guys for being assholes about what a father says to cope with his sons passing, especially considering he collapsed after the play (which leads me to believe it was an underlying medical condition that wasn't caught, which happened to a hokey player in my HS a few years back)
 

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So he deals with grief by telling the coaches that nothing needs to happen and telling them to keep sending OTHER people's kids out there?

Sorry no. The dad is clearly a simpleton. You take risks and, yeah, you might die, but football must go on. That's his perspective.

I'm sure this ordeal has taken a toll on his well-being. This could just be what is helping him cope. He's not forcing anyone to do anything.
 

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I would never ever let my kids play football. Fuck that shit.

I mean, I'd let my kid make that choice. No peewee football for sure, but once he hits High School, his decision. I played and loved it.

Blood for the god of pigskin.

But we already know americans value a great deal of inanimate objects over actual lives.

Awesome blanket statement.
 

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If this is how the father chooses to mourn, who are we to criticize him for it? Clearly he and his son loved football and he doesn't want to demonize/trivialize the sport his son gave his life for.
 

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you guys are brutal sometimes

the guy's kid just died, and yeah he died doing what he liked to do and he said as much. what's he supposed to say?
 

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This is so sad. It usually seems that the parents take the sports more serious than the kids. I knew so many kids that didn't care about the sports but it was there parents that just continued to push them.
 

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"I don't care." Yeah, clearly. What a fucking idiot.

"And I told the coach I don't care if you win or lose, I want these boys, and I want these kids to lay it all out there on that field."

You read that entire sentence and then decided to break it down to just 'I don't care'? Are you really in a position to be calling others morons and 'fucking idiots'? The Dad is clearly talking about not postponing anymore games that the high school has to play.

Death and grieving are complicated affairs, and people respond in their own ways.
 

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I would let my kids do whatever they want to do they feel passionate about it. Football, dancing, bungee jumping, parachuting, skating, valet etc.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if the dad pushed the kid too hard with an attitude like that.

What the fuck?
 

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The replies in here are the "cup half empty" type. Very unfortunate death but the dad is saying his son lived a happy life. Died doing what he loved. Lived life to his fullest. I don't know. Just don't see his reply as bad as anyone else. Didn't read the article, btw. Going based off the OP.
 

Sanjuro

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If this is how the father chooses to mourn, who are we to criticize him for it? Clearly he and his son loved football and he doesn't want to demonize/trivialize the sport his son gave his life for.

Not to mention players on the team are likely severely affected as well. He is basically speaking to them as well, and for them to play to their best ability.
 
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