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I’ve been an independent all my life.. never liked to pigeon hole my political beliefs as I agreed with policies from both sides
i’ve always been of the kind to support whatever President is in office... not waste energy on negativity.. when Obama was President, I would cringe listening to Hannity berate the guy nightly..
now we come to this current climate.. the out of control TDS, the media attacking him constantly, the division in this country and how every moron who feels their opinion means something because twitter gives them a platform..
it was first the russia nonsense, Kavanaugh nonsense..impeachment nonsense.. we move past it.. now we have this pandemic that our biggest rival in the world caused (whether intentionally or not) and the moment has come as a country to stand together..but no.. let’s continue sowing division and fighting amongst ourselves... pointing the finger...

what i guess i’m trying to say is that i’m full blown red pill now .. i cannot see myself voting democrat ever again..
as someone who thinks of themselves as pretty reasonable,open to ideas from others, i cannot believe there aren’t many more people like me in this country just fed up
 

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Imagine being Conan on the Tree of Woe. Imagine the Vultures pecking away at you as you exist in misery.

Then you decide you have had enough:




Now, crush your enemies, drive them before you and hear the lamentations of their women.



Contemplate on this and seize your destiny!

 
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I’ve been an independent all my life.. never liked to pigeon hole my political beliefs as I agreed with policies from both sides
i’ve always been of the kind to support whatever President is in office... not waste energy on negativity.. when Obama was President, I would cringe listening to Hannity berate the guy nightly..
now we come to this current climate.. the out of control TDS, the media attacking him constantly, the division in this country and how every moron who feels their opinion means something because twitter gives them a platform..
it was first the russia nonsense, Kavanaugh nonsense..impeachment nonsense.. we move past it.. now we have this pandemic that our biggest rival in the world caused (whether intentionally or not) and the moment has come as a country to stand together..but no.. let’s continue sowing division and fighting amongst ourselves... pointing the finger...

what i guess i’m trying to say is that i’m full blown red pill now .. i cannot see myself voting democrat ever again..
as someone who thinks of themselves as pretty reasonable,open to ideas from others, i cannot believe there aren’t many more people like me in this country just fed up
It absolutely sucks and as they say;

Misery loves company. Welcome aboard.
 
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Just wait for the next 4 years.

Even if Biden wins all the shit DNC did will be turned against him, and he is suck a feckless leader. Top it off most Dems will want him to resign since they are really voting for his VP and not him. He is just a meat shield to try and beat Trump.

Chin up, the debates are coming up and it will be the most entertaining thing we may have yet witnessed.
 
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The media criticizes him constantly because he constantly deserves to be criticized.
no he does not.. i agree he can be rude and egotistical but i’ve accepted that already as long as he continues to try to do what he says... and he has done many things he has said he will do

just imagine how much more we could accomplish if they worked together .. there is common ground in areas
 
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no he does not.. i agree he can be rude and egotistical but i’ve accepted that already as long as he continues to try to do what he says... and he has done many things he has said he will do

just imagine how much more we could accomplish if they worked together .. there is common ground in areas
Yeah that's not going to happen. The two sides are fundamentally opposed to each other. Their agendas cannot exist at the same time. Everything one side wants the other side doesn't want. We have arrived at a point where the only time things will get done with regularity is when one side has a majority in the House and in the Senate.
 

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There are 2 types of people who watch Hannity.
1. Cult members
2. Those who want to see what the cult is being fed.

A moderate also doesn't say 'Russia Nonsense,' as we know that Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy.

This reads like that bs #walkaway shit from a few years ago, but they tried harder to be believable.
 

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Yeah that's not going to happen. The two sides are fundamentally opposed to each other. Their agendas cannot exist at the same time. Everything one side wants the other side doesn't want. We have arrived at a point where the only time things will get done with regularity is when one side has a majority in the House and in the Senate.
And that is the problem.

There isn't 2 sides... only 2 extremes with the rest of us in the middle, exhausted and giving up/not paying attention.

As an example, look at Free College education.

One extreme says we can't, one extreme says we can. And the ones who are asking how don't have a voice. No representation = no questions asked = no answers given.

How do we pay for everyone to go? Can the country afford for you to go to the school of your choice? Do only certain schools qualify? Do qualifying schools have to lower costs in order to be qualifying schools? Do only certain programs qualify? How do we stop College education from simply being an extension of an already failing and under performing public education system?

The 2 extremes will never represent those asking the "How" questions... Just the "What".
 

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Back in the 90s, I think it was understandable to oppose the Republicans because they were seen as the party that was going to wreck the environment, invade a whole bunch of countries, or impose Christian puritanism on you.

But now flash forward to the 2020s and it's the Republican Party that doesn't want you locked inside your house as China gobbles up the world thanks to globalism. And the media HATES that.

The high IQ option is to realize both parties suck but pay attention to how your rights are being impacted under each administration.

It's possible Trump may in fact be a terrible President. But if he's not taking your guns away, if he's not banning freedom of speech, if he's not opening the borders to illegal immigrants to come swamp you, then who cares? It's your life that matters most.

Presidents come and go, but harmful legislation that affects you doesn't. For example, remember the Patriot Act signed by Bush in 2001? Did Obama ever get rid of it when he came into office, or did the Democrats just make the bill stronger?
 
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And that is the problem.

There isn't 2 sides... only 2 extremes with the rest of us in the middle, exhausted and giving up/not paying attention.

As an example, look at Free College education.

One extreme says we can't, one extreme says we can. And the ones who are asking how don't have a voice. No representation = no questions asked = no answers given.

How do we pay for everyone to go? Can the country afford for you to go to the school of your choice? Do only certain schools qualify? Do qualifying schools have to lower costs in order to be qualifying schools? Do only certain programs qualify? How do we stop College education from simply being an extension of an already failing and under performing public education system?

The 2 extremes will never represent those asking the "How" questions... Just the "What".
I don't disagree. But it doesn't change the reality. Each side will never compromise with the other at this point.

Gun control, women's rights, healthcare reform, educational reform, immigration reform, etc etc the list goes on and on. The two sides are so absolutely against the others view on these things that neither is going to give an inch to the other. It's what happens when you get two completely different ways of looking at the world and then throw money into the mix.


You get a clusterfuck of greed and stupidity.
 
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There are 2 types of people who watch Hannity.
1. Cult members
2. Those who want to see what the cult is being fed.

A moderate also doesn't say 'Russia Nonsense,' as we know that Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy.

This reads like that bs #walkaway shit from a few years ago, but they tried harder to be believable.
it became nonsense after the Mueller report was released..waste of time..
prior to it i followed along and let the arguments be heard but alas .. nothing
 

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Gun control, women's rights, healthcare reform, educational reform, immigration reform, etc etc the list goes on and on. The two sides are so absolutely against the others view on these things that neither is going to give an inch to the other. It's what happens when you get two completely different ways of looking at the world and then throw money into the mix.
Funny you say that.
At one point Democrats did agree with Republicans when it came to immigration. But then something changed.

When they realized if they left the border open to Mexico, they gain a shit ton of voters who will slowly replace American ones.

 

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I too am fed up. I was with you until the last part. Both sides are bad and trying to pick the lesser of evils is a fools game. I can't remember the last time our government was functional. It was well before I was able to vote that is for sure.
 

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it became nonsense after the Mueller report was released..waste of time..
prior to it i followed along and let the arguments be heard but alas .. nothing
If you're talking more about collusion, and not discounting that Russian interference needed to be investigated, it makes more sense.

But it still reads like this to me:
Ive always been straight, and back in the day when I used to watch a lot of gay porn, I'd always get this weird twitch in my asshole.
I would be at these gay clubs, but then 2 dudes would start hooking up, and I'd need to turn away, bend over and cover my ears so as to not fall into their trap. But now when I'm at a gay club, I'm OK with it.

In both cases, it's just somebody accepting who they've always been. Congratulations on the growth.
 

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I don't disagree. But it doesn't change the reality. Each side will never compromise with the other at this point.

Gun control, women's rights, healthcare reform, educational reform, immigration reform, etc etc the list goes on and on. The two sides are so absolutely against the others view on these things that neither is going to give an inch to the other. It's what happens when you get two completely different ways of looking at the world and then throw money into the mix.


You get a clusterfuck of greed and stupidity.
I know this is a double post but I think this sentence shows how strong modern media brainwashing is.

Immigration was just one example where Democrats & Republicans use to agree. But the idea that Republicans "just don't care about women's rights,healthcare" etc again, looks foolish.

Who do you think passed the civil rights act of 1964? It was more Republicans than Democrats that wanted to give equal rights to Black people and women.





Yet today, the media has spun it so that "only Republicans are Nazis and Democrats are the good guys". There's clearly a reason for all of this. It's to push an agenda that ensures only one political party can have permanent control over the U.S.
 
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If you're talking more about collusion, and not discounting that Russian interference needed to be investigated, it makes more sense.

But it still reads like this to me:
Ive always been straight, and back in the day when I used to watch a lot of gay porn, I'd always get this weird twitch in my asshole.
I would be at these gay clubs, but then 2 dudes would start hooking up, and I'd need to turn away, bend over and cover my ears so as to not fall into their trap. But now when I'm at a gay club, I'm OK with it.

In both cases, it's just somebody accepting who they've always been. Congratulations on the growth.
lolol :messenger_tears_of_joy: yea i meant collusion..
 
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There are 2 types of people who watch Hannity.
1. Cult members
2. Those who want to see what the cult is being fed.

A moderate also doesn't say 'Russia Nonsense,' as we know that Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy.

This reads like that bs #walkaway shit from a few years ago, but they tried harder to be believable.
The Russia hoax is just that. Stop perpetrating lies. The entire thing has been debunked by actual journalists. The frauds that own the conversation are still lying with the facts front and center. And you say others are in a cult.

enjo your koolaide
 

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There are 2 types of people who watch Hannity.
1. Cult members
2. Those who want to see what the cult is being fed.

A moderate also doesn't say 'Russia Nonsense,' as we know that Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy.

This reads like that bs #walkaway shit from a few years ago, but they tried harder to be believable.
The irony.

The #walkaway 'thing' is 100% real, but of unknown size.

The "Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy" is a complete delusion and shows that you are a victim of an active measures campaign, resulting in your being gas-lit.
 

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I know this is a double post but I think this sentence shows how strong modern media brainwashing is.

Immigration was just one example where Democrats & Republicans use to agree. But the idea that Republicans "just don't care about women's rights,healthcare" etc again, looks foolish.

Who do you think passed the civil rights act of 1964? It was more Republicans than Democrats that wanted to give equal rights to Black people and women.





Yet today, the media has spun it so that "only Republicans are Nazis and Democrats are the good guys". There's clearly a reason for all of this. It's to push an agenda that ensures only one political party can have permanent control over the U.S.
Yeah, uh, I’m not sure you’re aware, but the parties’ ideologies have shifted by just a bit since 1964.

 

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I can speak only anecdotally, but as a reformed TDS sufferer myself, I am pretty sick of the bullshit that the Democrats have tried to pull in recent years with regards to Trump. They treat him like the literal antichrist because he's crass and rude and doesn't act presidential. There is a ton of legitimate criticism that he and his administration deserve, but it's all lost in the constant shrieking about bullshit and the insane efforts to make him out to be a Russian agent or to impeach him.

I wouldn't say I've been red pilled, but the modern Democratic party and their media allies are fucking nuts for the most part and I want nothing to do with them. I've only ever voted Democrat since turning 18, but there's not a chance in hell I can vote for Joe Biden.
 

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Do you really believe this?

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3]
Now look at the Bush administration. The guy was an asshole for a lot of reasons but why would a "racist" put two black people in high ranking positions?




Same with Trump. The media wants us to believe he is genocide all non-white people, but then he proceeds to give billions of dollars directly to Black businesses.

No, I don't think the Republicans changed in the last 100 years.
 
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Why do you think Trump got elected in the first place? The US achieved a critical mass of people who were "fed up". Enough Americans woke up and realized that the neocons and neolibs in Washington were selling out the American Dream to feather their own nests. He's the bull in the china shop, no pun intended. ;)

It's the same reason Sanders has so many fans. Everybody who isn't rich or on the quick path to wealth are sick and tired of the status quo, sick of the increasing division of wealth within the country, sick of being part of a steadily growing and seemingly powerless underclass.

The sad part is that we're learning how little the President can really do to change things, how little he or she can really do to "drain the swamp". Basically our government is a massive iceberg and the President is a guy stranded on it with an oar. He's not going to make a difference vs. that much inertia, no matter how hard he rows. Might make some big splashes but significantly change the course of that iceberg? Not happening.

What we really need to do is take away the oar and give him a pick and tell him the only thing he can do with that pick is make the iceberg smaller. Keep doing that over a few administrations and maybe we'll get back to a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
 
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Do you really believe this?



Now look at the Bush administration. The guy was an asshole for a lot of reasons but why would a "racist" put two black people in high ranking positions?




Same with Trump. The media wants us to believe he is genocide all non-white people, but then he proceeds to give billions of dollars directly to Black businesses.

No, I don't think the Republicans changed in the last 100 years.
So you barely read the link, didn’t do any further research beyond it, cherry-picked a random fact about 1 recent president as some form of evidence of a broader party-wide strategy and ideology, and are confident enough to assert that Republican Party is unchanged over the past century?

lol. Never change, Jordan.
 
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So you barely read the link, didn’t do any further research beyond it, cherry-picked a random fact about 1 recent president as some form of evidence, and are confident enough to assert that Republican Party is unchanged over the past century?

lol. Never change, Jordan.
Bush was in power in for 8 years and Trump is looking to do the same if he doesn't screw up.

So that's 16 years of Republicans not actually foaming at the mouth of "why isn't the President appealing to racism"?

But here's a challenge for you. Can you explain to me without using that one Wikipedia article why I should believe the Republican Party supposedly represents White Supremacy and nothing else? Again, I just want to see how is your ability to think for yourself and not what others told you.

For example, can you show me a single law passed by Republicans that directly benefited only White Americans and excluded every other race. Just show me one.
 
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and are confident enough to assert that Republican Party is unchanged over the past century?
Look at when the Democrats were founded. Look at why the Democrats were founded?

Where they not the original party who wanted a country that could import foreign workers on the premise of cheap institutional labor and nothing else?

Fast forward today and whose ideology lines up with this? Hell, the 2020 Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, is literally a former segregationist.
 
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Bush was in power in for 8 years and Trump is looking to do the same if he doesn't screw up.

So that's 16 years of Republicans not actually foaming at the mouth of "why isn't the President appealing to racism"?

But here's a challenge for you. Can you explain to me without using that one Wikipedia article why I should believe the Republican Party supposedly represents White Supremacy and nothing else? Again, I just want to see how is your ability to think for yourself and not what others told you.

For example, can you show me a single law passed by Republicans that directly benefited only White Americans and excluded every other race. Just show me one.
I never made assertions like that. I simply said the Republicans and Democrats of 2020 are not all that similar to those from the era of the Civil Rights Act. The strategies, ideologies and voter bases have shifted.

You apparently don’t believe that. I don’t really know what I was expecting, but I guess I’m not too surprised 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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I feel you OP.

And I'll preface this by saying "Republicans" aren't the answer.

...but Democrats have been the party of racism, oppression, psychosis from day #1.

This is a 300-year long battle between the power of the state (collectivism is how they sell it, socialism, communism, etc) and the individual.

At least Republicans pay lip service to the rights of the individual.

Modern democrats are Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Maoists. "the state is the answer" and nothing else.
 
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I never made assertions like that. I simply said the Republicans and Democrats of 2020 are not all that similar to those from the era of the Civil Rights Act. The strategies, ideologies and voter bases have shifted.

You apparently don’t believe that. I don’t really know what I was expecting, but I guess I’m not too surprised 🤷🏻‍♂️
Then show me these examples.

If you missed my edit, I even just said that the current Democratic nominee has closer ties to Segregationists than Donald Trump. So why should I care if you don't show me other proof?

I'm looking at your ability to critically think, but you've only proven my point. You can't.
 
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I'm looking at your ability to critically think, but you've only proven my point. You can't.
If you say so.

What’s your alternative explanation for Southern states shifting from leaning heavily Democrat to heavily Republican if the parties have been static?
 

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There are 2 types of people who watch Hannity.
1. Cult members
2. Those who want to see what the cult is being fed.

A moderate also doesn't say 'Russia Nonsense,' as we know that Russia attacked the linch-pin of our Democracy.

This reads like that bs #walkaway shit from a few years ago, but they tried harder to be believable.
Russia nonsense to me means the foisting of what is now confirmed as a goddamned lie on the populace by the Democrats and the media. You know, that kind of Russian nonsense. In fact, the OP was being polite because I just call it what it is: bullshit.

And please, Russia didn’t attack our democracy anywhere near to the degree the Democrats have.
 
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I voted Democrat until the last election. I get tired of everything being so overblown also. Sometimes I just take a break and don’t pay much attention to the news for a few weeks other then major headlines. Nowadays it’s mostly trash anyways due to needing to fill the airwaves 24/7.

I won’t say I won’t ever vote Democrat again since anything can change. The current party does nothing but push me away more and more. I don’t see myself voting Democrat again anytime soon.

I know a few TDS people. You can show them a picture of Trump and just see the anger starting to boil up. They can never explain why they have so much anger other then he says mean things on Twitter. It’s really strange.
 
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I voted Democrat until the last election. I get tired of everything being so overblown also. Sometimes I just take a break and don’t pay much attention to the news for a few weeks other then major headlines. Nowadays it’s mostly trash anyways due to needing to fill the airwaves 24/7.

I won’t say I won’t ever vote Democrat again since anything can change. The current party does nothing but push me away more and more. I don’t see myself voting Democrat again anytime soon.

I know a few TDS people. You can show them a picture of Trump and just see the anger starting to boil up. They can never explain why they have so much anger other then he says mean things on Twitter. It’s really strange.
Totally in the same boat. The democrats would need to do a top to down reformation before I trust them as a party like I used to. And the current puritanical left needs to be dissolved from the authoritarians doublespeak hellscape they have devolved into.

Ain't mean I am voting right by any default. They still house and platform the evangelicals and moral fundamentalists. The right was savy enough to push them to the back of the room and took away most of their microphones. No one should be fooled though.
 
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I’ve been an independent all my life.. never liked to pigeon hole my political beliefs as I agreed with policies from both sides
i’ve always been of the kind to support whatever President is in office... not waste energy on negativity.. when Obama was President, I would cringe listening to Hannity berate the guy nightly..
now we come to this current climate.. the out of control TDS, the media attacking him constantly, the division in this country and how every moron who feels their opinion means something because twitter gives them a platform..
it was first the russia nonsense, Kavanaugh nonsense..impeachment nonsense.. we move past it.. now we have this pandemic that our biggest rival in the world caused (whether intentionally or not) and the moment has come as a country to stand together..but no.. let’s continue sowing division and fighting amongst ourselves... pointing the finger...

what i guess i’m trying to say is that i’m full blown red pill now .. i cannot see myself voting democrat ever again..
as someone who thinks of themselves as pretty reasonable,open to ideas from others, i cannot believe there aren’t many more people like me in this country just fed up
Don't obsess over it. Do what I did: say fuck both sides and be on your own side. You think someone like Mitch McConnell gives a shit about you or your family? Don't fool yourself.

These politicians, Trump included, are only I'm it for themselves. It's like the folks on here who bitch about the legacy media, but then sing the praises of Fox News. How quick they are to forget that groups like Fox labeled Americans as unpatriotic for not supporting an illegal war.

Do yourself and those around you a favor. Don't worry about it. Be on your side. Try not to get caught up in the hype of politics. Don't worry about the country. It will be here long after you and I are gone. Continue to vote, since that's when your participation really matters.
 

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I’ve been an independent all my life.. never liked to pigeon hole my political beliefs as I agreed with policies from both sides
i’ve always been of the kind to support whatever President is in office... not waste energy on negativity.. when Obama was President, I would cringe listening to Hannity berate the guy nightly..
now we come to this current climate.. the out of control TDS, the media attacking him constantly, the division in this country and how every moron who feels their opinion means something because twitter gives them a platform..
it was first the russia nonsense, Kavanaugh nonsense..impeachment nonsense.. we move past it.. now we have this pandemic that our biggest rival in the world caused (whether intentionally or not) and the moment has come as a country to stand together..but no.. let’s continue sowing division and fighting amongst ourselves... pointing the finger...

what i guess i’m trying to say is that i’m full blown red pill now .. i cannot see myself voting democrat ever again..
as someone who thinks of themselves as pretty reasonable,open to ideas from others, i cannot believe there aren’t many more people like me in this country just fed up
Was waiting to hear you say you were tired of the division and the idea that wearing masks is tyrannical.
 

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Yep. Now compare that to Carter and then look at Obama. Notice a shift?
Yes, but not because Republicans wanted to revive Nazism but because globalism had finally taken root in the U.S and changed the electoral landscape forever.

It doesn't surprise me there where working class Americans who voted Democrat but then changed to Republican because even traditional labor rights advocates like Bernie Sanders have become goons that don't care about them but instead, want hoards of mass immigration instead.



It's the same reason you saw the states that voted for Obama later flip to Trump. It's not because Trump was appealing to "racists", it was Hillary saying stuff like "coal is gone".


Edit: Apologies for using that old video but youtube is memory holing the hell out of Democratics back tracking on certain topics.
 
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Don't obsess over it. Do what I did: say fuck both sides and be on your own side. You think someone like Mitch McConnell gives a shit about you or your family? Don't fool yourself.

These politicians, Trump included, are only I'm it for themselves. It's like the folks on here who bitch about the legacy media, but then sing the praises of Fox News. How quick they are to forget that groups like Fox labeled Americans as unpatriotic for not supporting an illegal war.

Do yourself and those around you a favor. Don't worry about it. Be on your side. Try not to get caught up in the hype of politics. Don't worry about the country. It will be here long after you and I are gone. Continue to vote, since that's when your participation really matters.
yea i agree with you.. politicians don’t give a shit about us .... never have as we are all just votes but i really think Trump loves America .. like seriously does... yes part of him running is to satisfy his ego but i can’t say he ran to make himself richer - that is nonsense
 

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Yes, but not because Republicans wanted to revive Nazism
Where are you pulling this stuff from, man?

but because globalism had finally taken root in the U.S and changed the electoral landscape forever.
It doesn't surprise me there where working class Americans who voted Democrat but then changed to Republican because even traditional labor rights advocates like Bernie Sanders have become goons that don't care about them but instead, want hoards of mass immigration instead.
So, in other words, the party and the political environment are different than in 1964? :pie_thinking:

Or is it just somehow only the Democrats that have changed, and the Republicans are still the same? The Party of Lincoln, right?
 

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If the parties flipped, we would have seen mass desertions from one side to the other, in both directions. We did not.

What we did see were the parties shifting and swaying under the natural pressures of time and cultural change, and the Democrats rebranded but remain the party of racial divide. Their policies promise racial healing but deliver racial plight, from welfare locking black communities into a cycle of fatherlessness and government dependency, to NYC having more black abortions than births.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have had their own issues. First with the evangicals, and then with the warmongering neocons [who, by the way, were warmongering leftists who left for the right because they saw a path to take control, hence the neo/new in neocon. But in general? The rugged individualism of the right does not give flying rats ass about the color of your skin.

Ignoring the occassional mistakes of the right, if we rewind to before the evangical takeover [which occurred for a variety of cultural reasons, just like the woke takeover of the left today] we see Goldwater libertarianism was a strong force. Fact is, small government conservatives generally do not want government in your business, in my business, or anyone elses. You do not see a call for that kind of power until the morally correct or politically correct gain power, and that can come from right [80s] or left [10s].

But the Dems have long been the party of race bases politics, through and through. They're particularly good at presenting themselves as the good guys, because many people like the idea of throwing money at a problem even if doing so is a root cause of the problem.
 

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So, in other words, the party and the political environment are different than in 1964? :pie_thinking:

Or is it just somehow only the Democrats that have changed, and the Republicans are still the same? The Party of Lincoln, right?
I think America changed in general.

Left & Right where never this polarized or like I said, how did the Civil Rights Act pass in the first place?

But when America passed the Hart-Celler Act, that was the day the country died. What you have now are two political parties, both in favor of mass replacement and taking away your liberties.

The only major difference, is the Democrats have gone full accelerationist and want to speed up this process.

Open the borders, accept EVERYONE from Mexico, outsource all jobs overseas and then all of sudden, these states that use to vote one way completely change.

 
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yea i agree with you.. politicians don’t give a shit about us .... never have as we are all just votes but i really think Trump loves America .. like seriously does... yes part of him running is to satisfy his ego but i can’t say he ran to make himself richer - that is nonsense
No. He ran to stroke his ego. That's all there is to it. He only cares about the country because he lives in it.