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Anyone here in Russia?

Widdle Puppy

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Hello Neogaf,

I am from the USA and I am about to decide between a few different teaching positions I applied for in Russia. This has been a stressful and draining process but it is about to be over. Soon I will be an American living in Moscow with zero Russian language. I am really excited.

Are there any members here that live in Russia, specifically Moscow? Any expat? I would like to hear your stories and experiences. I should be there for one year. While there I want to walk around Moscow, see Gorky park, perhaps take a vacation in St.petersburg to see the museums. I would also like to rent a motorcycle so I can travel around and see the countryside.

What are some things you recommend I do or be prepared for?

Thanks!

EDIT: I'm in the process of receiving my invitation for a job in Moscow.
 

Kyne

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Yeah I think most of our Trump supporters are from there.

 

KingV

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Most of the recent batch of juniors

Haha. Yup.

Edit: on a serious note, I think maybe Dr_Rus is from there. He mostly posts about video cards.

Also lots of people in b/s/t who sold steam gifts in the past :-D
 

T.O.P

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Excited to hear about your journey OP, the bf is obsessed with visiting Moscow so i'll probably end up making a small trip there as well by next year, good luck!
 

JoJoShabadoo

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Feel free to PM me OP. I lived in St. Petersburg for 3 months earlier this year, teaching English (voluntarily). Maybe I can answer some questions for you.

You will absolutely have to know some Russian though. In SPB there's more tourism so there's more English speakers downtown, and English signs in places like the subway. In Moscow without at least knowing the cyrillic alphabet and basic phonetics you'll have a hard time getting around.

EDIT: As for a motorcycle, have you done some research on it? Living in Buenos Aires where pretty much everyone has a motorcycle/moped/scooter something I immediately noticed is that there were almost no motorcycles there. I trust it's because of how cold it is year-round. Don't underestimate the cold! Really. Unless you're used to it, make sure you take a lot of warm clothes.

Some more general advice I can give you... Firstly I should stress again how you should learn as much Russian as you can before going (and especially while there). I had a basic grasp of it when I arrived, but I didn't exactly pick up as much as you might with another Germanic/Romance language. In the past I learned Portuguese like literally five times faster than Russian, knowing Spanish. But if you study it while you're there you'll learn at a steady rate and apply what you learn on a daily basis. After 3 months I learned a lot.

On your first or second day there, go to a TELE2 shop. TELE2 is a mobile operator. They sell a pre-paid SIM chip for 300 rubles a month (roughly 5 dollars). It has unlimited data and I didn't even bother using WiFi in the apartment I was staying at because it was fast (4G). I used on average around 60 gigs of data a month and the speed never slowed down. Really, really cheap way to get unlimited data and as many calls/SMS as you'll realistically need. This was especially helpful for Google Maps. I used Google Maps religiously to get around the city and not once did it give me the wrong route. The subway is by far the best way to get around the city, BTW.

Russian people are very proud, the more you know about their culture the more willing they'll be to show you around, teach you more, help you with the language, etc. Don't believe the stereotype that they're "cold" people. They're actually really amiable once you get past their "shell".

Go to the State Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow if you're into 18th-19th century paintings. The Hermitage in SPB of course is a must. It's huge. Go as early as possible (opens at 10am) it starts filling up around 11am. Don't go on a day it's free, it's ridiculously full. Since I was in Petersburg for so long I met a lot of locals, and they showed me some places that aren't in guidebooks. Rooftop cafes, tours through private buildings, rooftop tours (if you're adventurous, somewhat athletic and willing to walk on rooftops without railings, this was really amazing and offered incredible views of the city) and the like. I can give you some tips here, in case you're interested. I only spent 5 days in Moscow so there I mostly covered the main attractions, but I can give you a few tips.

Try Georgian food. In my opinion it's better than Russian food. Try khachapuri and khinkali. So, so good.

Since this is Neogaf, I should mention the Soviet Arcade Museum. It has a bunch of preserved arcade games from Soviet times. Good for 2 hours or so (go with a local!).

I could write a lot more haha, I had such a good time over there and I can make up for the lack of Russians on Gaf :p

As I said, feel free to PM me.
 

Lonewulfeus

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Feel free to PM me OP. I lived in St. Petersburg for 3 months earlier this year, teaching English (voluntarily). Maybe I can answer some questions for you.

You will absolutely have to know some Russian though. In SPB there's more tourism so there's more English speakers downtown, and English signs in places like the subway. In Moscow without at least knowing the cyrillic alphabet and basic phonetics you'll have a hard time getting around.

EDIT: As for a motorcycle, have you done some research on it? Living in Buenos Aires where pretty much everyone has a motorcycle/moped/scooter something I immediately noticed is that there were almost no motorcycles there. I trust it's because of how cold it is year-round. Don't underestimate the cold! Really. Unless you're used to it, make sure you take a lot of warm clothes.

That you had to add the voluntary qualifier says a lot about Russia I think!
 

JordanN

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I wouldn't bring up Russia here. The russophobia is off the charts.

Are you conflating hatred of the Russian government with actual Russians?

I've seen condemnation for the likes of Russia because of actual LGBT abuses, their annexation of Ukrainian territory, and overall dictator in training Vladimir Putin. But I've never seen anyone explicitly denounce someone for being Russian on Neogaf.
 

Widdle Puppy

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Feel free to PM me OP. I lived in St. Petersburg for 3 months earlier this year, teaching English (voluntarily). Maybe I can answer some questions for you.

You will absolutely have to know some Russian though. In SPB there's more tourism so there's more English speakers downtown, and English signs in places like the subway. In Moscow without at least knowing the cyrillic alphabet and basic phonetics you'll have a hard time getting around.

EDIT: As for a motorcycle, have you done some research on it? Living in Buenos Aires where pretty much everyone has a motorcycle/moped/scooter something I immediately noticed is that there were almost no motorcycles there. I trust it's because of how cold it is year-round. Don't underestimate the cold! Really. Unless you're used to it, make sure you take a lot of warm clothes.

Some more general advice I can give you... Firstly I should stress again how you should learn as much Russian as you can before going (and especially while there). I had a basic grasp of it when I arrived, but I didn't exactly pick up as much as you might with another Germanic/Romance language. In the past I learned Portuguese like literally five times faster than Russian, knowing Spanish. But if you study it while you're there you'll learn at a steady rate and apply what you learn on a daily basis. After 3 months I learned a lot.

On your first or second day there, go to a TELE2 shop. TELE2 is a mobile operator. They sell a pre-paid SIM chip for 300 rubles a month (roughly 5 dollars). It has unlimited data and I didn't even bother using WiFi in the apartment I was staying at because it was fast (4G). I used on average around 60 gigs of data a month and the speed never slowed down. Really, really cheap way to get unlimited data and as many calls/SMS as you'll realistically need. This was especially helpful for Google Maps. I used Google Maps religiously to get around the city and not once did it give me the wrong route. The subway is by far the best way to get around the city, BTW.

Russian people are very proud, the more you know about their culture the more willing they'll be to show you around, teach you more, help you with the language, etc. Don't believe the stereotype that they're "cold" people. They're actually really amiable once you get past their "shell".

Go to the State Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow if you're into 18th-19th century paintings. The Hermitage in SPB of course is a must. It's huge. Go as early as possible (opens at 10am) it starts filling up around 11am. Don't go on a day it's free, it's ridiculously full. Since I was in Petersburg for so long I met a lot of locals, and they showed me some places that aren't in guidebooks. Rooftop cafes, tours through private buildings, rooftop tours (if you're adventurous, somewhat athletic and willing to walk on rooftops without railings, this was really amazing and offered incredible views of the city) and the like. I can give you some tips here, in case you're interested. I only spent 5 days in Moscow so there I mostly covered the main attractions, but I can give you a few tips.

Try Georgian food. In my opinion it's better than Russian food. Try khachapuri and khinkali. So, so good.

Since this is Neogaf, I should mention the Soviet Arcade Museum. It has a bunch of preserved arcade games from Soviet times. Good for 2 hours or so (go with a local!).

I could write a lot more haha, I had such a good time over there and I can make up for the lack of Russians on Gaf :p

As I said, feel free to PM me.

Thank you much for all this great info!
 
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Are you conflating hatred of the Russian government with actual Russians?

I've seen condemnation for the likes of Russia because of actual LGBT abuses, their annexation of Ukrainian territory, and overall dictator in training Vladimir Putin. But I've never seen anyone explicitly denounce someone for being Russian on Neogaf.
I mean, the first few responses were about hacking. How is that creating a healthy and warm atmosphere for Russian posters?
 

ISOM

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Yall just had to make this about America and our President ?

You realize you could just ignore it and post the relevant info to the OP's request right?. Lots of other threads get randomly shit on by posters but for some reason you Trump fans gotta complain the loudest.
 

Buba Big Guns

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Sad even tourism threads devolve into a political discussion right away. Like the thread where the poster wanted info about going to Iran. These places get millions of tourists every year, it's not strange at all for someone to want to visit.

Anyway Russia seems like it would be unreal to visit. Definitely on my bucket list/
 

Meowster

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Ignoring the politics of Russia and it's leader, I find it a fascinating country. There's so much beauty to their (admittedly, rather bloody) history - beautiful architecture, fantastic music, some of the greatest literature out there. I hope you have a good time there. I'd love to visit Russia someday. Probably wouldn't work out for me because I'm gay but if they ever change their mind..
 

Not

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Ignoring the politics of Russia and it's leader, I find it a fascinating country. There's so much beauty to their (admittedly, rather bloody) history - beautiful architecture, fantastic music, some of the greatest literature out there. I hope you have a good time there. I'd love to visit Russia someday. Probably wouldn't work out for me because I'm gay but if they ever change their mind..

Understatement. Some horrific holocaust-level shit starting over there.
 

T.O.P

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You realize you could just ignore it and post the relevant info to the OP's request right?. Lots of other threads get randomly shit on by posters but for some reason you Trump fans gotta complain the loudest.

You saying that OP should post relevant info that answers OP's requests?
And now he is suddenly a Trump supperter?
 

RedSparrows

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The language is tricky, you at minimum need to grasp the alphabet/phonetic reading and some key verbs before you go imo and then work on it there.

As for places to visit, I liked/found interesting Park Poebdi, MGU/Sparrow Hills, Red Square obvs, stroll around Tverskaya, gulag museum, Bulgakov's house, Izmailova, the bars in the old chocolate factory (i think) in the centre, Christ the Saviour, the Kremlin Armory.

I lived in a suburb and enjoyed the markets too.
 
Anyway,

You absolutely will need to learn basic Russian to survive, even in Moscow. Duolingo is fine, every little bit helps. Are all the schools you applied to in the city proper? Your experience can differ quite a bit based on the neighborhood you will live and work in. Depending on where you're from in the U.S., cost of living will probably be OK. Enjoy the food. Visit all the museums and visit Red Square a few times.

Do not talk politics. That is a warning, not a suggestion.

This thread is a disaster but the word "Russia" is catnip to these people, it ain't your fault.
 

leroidys

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Definitely learn as much Russian as you can before going. Don't drink the tap water. Do prepare for the cold. Do eat as much Georgian and Armenian food as possible (Russian food is good too). Don't make a drunken ass of yourself. Stay away from Spartak fans, especially on gameday. Don't say anything bad about Russian economy/culture/politics/etc., even though you will often hear Russians complain about it. Don't buy counterfeit alcohol. Basically anything stupid you can do in the US is a stupid thing to do in Russia, but the stakes are higher. Always carry a copy of your passport with you and be prepared for cops seeking bribes. Try to make some Russian friends and stick with them, especially if you're going out drinking. If you're into classical music, take advantage of the world class symphonies, opera, ballet, etc (you can usually have a Russian person get you a cheaper ticket). Learn some things about Russian history, culture and art before you go, people in general tend to be much better educated along these lines than what you will find in the US (most people can quote at least a few famous poems from heart).

Most of all, have a great time OP. Russia is an amazing country with a fantastically fascinating, rich culture.
 

w3bba

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Russian-born but living in Germany most my life. Haven't been to Moscow yet except the airport. But some general hints for Russia from my experience:

As many said, learn Russian. Russians rarely speak a second language, maybe a few broken words of English or German.
Be wary of street vendors or bazaars. They can be very shifty. Also avoid politics, especially Ukraine and USA stuff. It could get you hurt.
For food as gaffers said Georgian or Armenian is good.

As for groceries etc, some pointers:
Bread comes usually in two varieties:
- Bulka(sourdough bread) and Baton(white bread)
- cold cuts and cut cheese are not very common at least in smaller stores
- buy bottled water and use that.
- for sodas you have the coca Cola brands and Pepsi. If you want something local, try Buratino(Pear soda) or Tarhun(woodruff soda)
- try out the baked goods and sweets. They go great with tea.
- Speaking of, Russia is a tea-drinking county. Expect coffee to be instant coffee.
- get frozen Pelmeni. Boil them for 15 Minutes. Add Smetana(kinda like sour cream) and pepper as a topping. Proceed to be enlightened.


Most other points have been covered by other gaffers so far. Enjoy your stay in Moscow. Russia is a great place to be and has some of the friendliest people i have met in my life.
 

UnluckyKate

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I lived in Moscow for years, went back every year, my brother been living there for 10 years.

No motorcycle there. Its suicide. They drive like madmen. If you value life, don't ride motorcycle.
Also, if you go around, party a bit. Be careful. Russia is infested with STDs but no one knows it because the goverment denies it. So you will meet beautiful women. ALWAYS WEAR THE CONDOM.

Also, I've seen them all. 100% failure rate. No expections : single foreign expat living in russia. They get hooked up. Every SINGLE one of them. Don't get played : she says she's the pill, don't trust her : wear a condom. She says she's not interested in marrying a foreigner and having a baby to get a european or US visa / rent money, don't trust her. Do not commit. I've seen DOZEN of single foreign get hooked and having to pay for babies they never see or marrying a girl that as soon as she got paper and visa, vanished.

So enjoy the ride but be careful. Moscow is wild, incredible, tons of stuff and amazing things to do and see but be carefull with your dick mate
 

sobaka770

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I'm from Russia but don't live there anymore. Here are a few tips:

- Learn at least some Russian. Most of my compatriots don't speak English, the signs are mostly in Russian as well. Learn Cyrillic alphabet (it's phonetic - read like you write 99% of the time), at least you'll be able to navigate the streets and metro.

Сможешь это прочесть, переходи на следующий пункт.

-Visit the places mentioned previously by posters, they are all excellent. Ride around the central metro line (brown circle), thank me later.

- Borscht (борщ) and other soups is where it's at.

- Moscow traffic is terrible. You can use a motorcycle but it's not only dangerous because the way people drive, the climate is not great - apart from 2-3 months of summer, the rains, the snow, the mud are going to be a pain.
 

Condom

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Learn to read Cyrillic before you arrive. You will otherwise be severely fucked, also get at least a good travel dictionary.
 

RedSparrows

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Taxis may abuse the fact that you're foreign and ask for ridiculous rates. Be sure to confirm in advance what the price will be with the taxi company and a local.

Can confirm. Guy tried to charge me 3000 roubles for one way, Domodedovo to MGU area. I think the 'schya as if' face is a universally understood sign of refusal.
 

Widdle Puppy

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I have a pretty good opportunity to go to st.petersburg as well. Is this place ideal over Moscow? It looks prettier for sure.
 

Reani

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I have a pretty good opportunity to go to st.petersburg as well. Is this place ideal over Moscow? It looks prettier for sure.
Its a lot less crowded and is a better place for sight-seeing.
If you dont really care about Kremlin and wanna see museums and exhibitions instead - definitely go to Saint-Petersburg
 

daxy

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I have a pretty good opportunity to go to st.petersburg as well. Is this place ideal over Moscow? It looks prettier for sure.

I don't know about living there, but it definitely has a nice atmosphere and is architecturally beautiful. The main downside from what I've experienced and heard is that the weather is awful 90% of the year. Cold, rainy, humid.