NinjaTehFish
Banned
Yeah, I love everything about the new Zelda. but I really really want traditional dungeons in that kind of world.
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Aonuma: "Open air games will be the standard for Zelda"
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Bedameister
Member
Yes please.
Jawmuncher
Member
Someone couldn't fix open air? It makes no sense at face value until you realize it's a botched translation.
Lol no one wanted to take that initiative
Inferno313
Banned
I'm TOTALLY down with Breath of the Wild setting the standard going forward, but I also hope that they experiment with the types of "Open-Air" environments we'll see. I hope the next Zelda is closer to a Majora's Mask or a Wind Waker. Use the mechanics of Breath of the Wild, sure, but let's use them in new interesting ways that allow us to get out of traditional Hyrule for the next game.
zenspider
Member
I prefer it this way. Makes the adventure more organic and unexpected like Okami. Maybe flesh out or make more interesting dungeon-esques like the
three Labryinths, Eventide Island and Thyphlo Ruins, Hyrule Castle
Going back to the big, monolithic, item-locked dungeons seems like a step backwards.
What do you mean? They've been calling it an open air game since E3 (in English).
Guess so. It could also indicate less emphasis on dungeons and indoor areas.
Jawmuncher
Member
The hell. This is the first I've heard of this.
Awesome. Put a Hyrule Castle in every region and we'll be perfect
From an interview a week after E3 last year
From an interview a week after E3 last year
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/legend-zelda-breath-wild-more-open-air-open-world-game-542178
That's literally what they've been calling BOTW for a while now.
Somewhere between 10 and 20 years from now, Nintendo might even have hardware, that allows them to reach Horizon: Zero Dawn visual complexity with a Zelda game. I'd like to see that.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'll back down this time.
Dunno who at Nintendo coined that one just to stand out.
Miyamoto
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I enjoyed BotW well enough, but its my least favorite game in the series. I'll pass on any more open world
NinjaTehFish
Banned
Yeah it just occurred to me this may well encourage them to really break away from the traditional regions now its been done this way once.
Not that they didn't fill in the gaps with some variety already.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Not being able to climb up every thing will be a problem for me in other adventure games moving forward.
kunonabi
Member
No new enemies either. It was waste of time just like all the other shrines and beasts.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Likely won't happen while the games are so open. If they want there to be no actual blockades to progression, breaking is necessary, as they won't want you to be able to walk in to the hyrule castle equivalent, grab one of the best weapons and use it forever, utterly breaking all semblence of game balance.
RichiRamjag
Member
They need to have both, just less shrines. I don't want to only have the option of long dungeons personally.
Open world Termina let's goo!
New characters and fully voiced Witcher 3 tier side quests. Do it Nintendo!
afternoon delight
Member
It is truly an achievement even in its current form, I'm so happy to hear it will be used again.
Yep. I've wanted it for so long in say, Elder Scrolls. Gimme a thief class that can over time,as you level up, scale things other classes can't.
Very glad this is the new norm for Zelda. I'd never touch the series again if it went back to SS/TP style.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
we all managed to move on after infamous second son and saints row 4 gave us this ability in open world games years ago
They should have blockades to progression though. Not hard blocks but definitely include skill gates. If someone can get to an end game area and get a powerful weapon then they deserve to have the other areas in the game become easier.
They also need to get rid of enemy and boss scaling. That shit is really dumb.
Jim_Cacher
Member
If they manage to make dungeons like SS in the next Botw-oriented Zelda... Oh boy, I need to calm my heart.
That is true, for the next game they should also try to have enemies introduced on each new dungeon, like previous games.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Nintendo's been using this phrase since last E3.
Herb Alpert
Banned
didn't he once say that motion controls would be the standart for future zelda?
I love this game to death, but this is not what I wanted to hear.
Zelda is a great series because each game has a unique identity game design wise.
BotW is fine, but it doesn't fit the dungeon/boss design/OST that has consistently been the staples of the series.
BotW is great because it isn't the status quo. I'd hate to see BotW 2 next.
Zelda is a great series because each game has a unique identity game design wise.
BotW is fine, but it doesn't fit the dungeon/boss design/OST that has consistently been the staples of the series.
BotW is great because it isn't the status quo. I'd hate to see BotW 2 next.
I loved the shrines, but I want the long meaty dungeons back. I breezed through the divine beats far too quickly.
Fuck. Yes. I want them to evolve this to near perfection. I'm sure with enough time they can find a way to fit regular dungeons too. Perhaps alternate between big and small worlds, the smaller ones more densely packed, with more dev time given to dungeons and larger worlds with a bigger emphasis on exploration
go_straight
Banned
It was already shit in botw (in any language), so let's make things even worse!
Skittzo0413
Member
I think that was a thing in Daggerfall
Where is there boss scaling?
It did have the turret guardians but yeah, I was really hoping to see a Darknut or Iron Knuckles in this game.
Never played that one. I want it in every open world game in some form. Let me climb shit.
There was a unique guardian type only found in Hyrule Castle. I'm pretty sure Hyrule Castle is actually the only location with a unique non-boss enemy in the game.
Degradation needs to be tweaked to be less frustrating but I agree that there has to be some sort of degradation to work within the open world framework.
Meatier dungeons: yes!
NO on the voice acting. The English VA in BOTW is easily the worst part of the game. Everyone sounds like a shitty Saturday morning cartoon character. Awful awful awful across the board. Completely ruined every scene with Zelda especially.
I want the Majora's Mask version of BotW. Smaller world, more intricate stories, shorter overall length, more side stuff... OMG I would explode from joy.