God dammit. Never apologise to these assholes. That’s what their narcissistic little pea brains want.
Apparently, GOG and CD Projekt RED have fired their community manager who authored the well-known polemical Tweets.
There is just one glaring problem with this otherwise sensible and reasonable analysis.
If the criterion for "make the company look good" is to conduct yourself in such a way that it escapes unnoticed by a fringe of radicals then be ready to have your course dictated by them, and by any other small group at that. So will GOG re-hire the individual in question back if the backlash against his firing is loud enough?
That's the problem with letting volume, not sense, guide your actions.
The one that era doxxed?
I'm so glad that person got fired. Unless you explain to me that the person was told to tweet that stuff. The tweet were bad jokes and at worse a distraction for a company that's doing everything else right. I'm sure the obvious people will turn this into a political fight\culture war, but at the end of the day does CD Project RED want their social media presence to be a place where trolling so-called SJWs is the thing they pride themselves in?
He made a did you just assume my gender jokeSorry but I'm not going to watch some spooky videos to figure what the guy said that got him fired.
He should have been fired for using old-ass internet humour that was never funny in the first place.He made a did you just assume my gender joke
He posted a games journalism is dead meme and the other one I forgot already.
Do you really think the majority of CDPR/GOGs business is within Polish borders?This is strange because Poland has a pretty strong right-wing presence I believe, so I didn't think they'd cave in to mob mentality.
OP post seems to be an attempt to garner outrage based off lopsided presentation of facts.
No links to the full events or screenshots of the tweets in question.
Without the full picture how can I assess which side is being the bigger babies?
Makes sense.
How you feel about the Tweet and the fact that someone paid to professionally manage a social media account should have known better than to post that tweet are 2 different things.
Come on man, I expect better than this from you.
But the company twitter is not your personal platform for poking fun at contemporary sensitivities. If you don't have a sense of how your jokes are going to be received by the worldwide public (or you don't care), you shouldn't be in that role.
Is a firing justified? Well, from an American workforce point of view I'd say it was. He created a completely avoidable distraction for the company. Whatever inconvenience that produced for GOG seems to have outweighed his value to the team.
I'm so glad that person got fired. Unless you explain to me that the person was told to tweet that stuff.
The tweet were bad jokes
and at worse a distraction for a company that's doing everything else right. I'm sure the obvious people will turn this into a political fight\culture war, but at the end of the day does CD Project RED want their social media presence to be a place where trolling so-called SJWs is the thing they pride themselves in?
I distinctly remember you saying it was a deliberate marketing strategy by CDPR. So would this be an admission you were wrong or are you having tremendous trouble being consistent?
Why should your opinion have any bearing on whether that individual was to be fired or not? Do you have anything more substantial than just your own taste in humour to support the claim he should have been fired?
I would refer you back to the posts where it was so glaringly obvious to you this was A) a deliberate marketing strategy by CDPR and B ) a strategy that was working.
So would you mind showing some consistency?
(…) But I'll add that if you want politics out of your games, it needs to go both ways. Also not a fan of the firing but the move is line with keeping that stuff out of their messaging.
I deleted my GOG account and wont ever buy from them ever now.
Back when it happened: "lol the jokes were fine, fuck the SJWs. CDPR just earned a life customer!"
Now:
Is that so? Have you seen the contract that was signed and/or worked at CDP yourself that you would know that this is the case, or is this pure conjecture? In the place where I work there are guidelines on how to act on our web presence and social media, and especially those who post on our social media account need to think twice about every single word they put out.There were no guidelines or anything from CDP that he broke.
is the problem not mostly that they had this happen like 2/3 times in a row?Wow that GOG thread is pretty telling. This was the wrong choice.
I didn't find the jokes offensive, and I haven't seen them explained to be offensive in a single, coherent statement. Just a lot of people on ERA or Twitter saying that they are with no good explanation as to why. We shouldn't fire people because a loud minority on the internet find a joke to be offensive. People's livelihoods are worth more than fake outrage.
I was buying way before that. I dont like people getting fired over jokes. That is the line in the sand for me.
Because nothing was posted about it. This was a stealth firing. He was Fired straight after the tweet within a few hours IIRC. They wouldnt have been found out unil forum users noted he was missing. If they were in the right they would have made a public statement.Is that so? Have you seen the contract that was signed and/or worked at CDP yourself that you would know that this is the case, or is this pure conjecture? In the place where I work there are guidelines on how to act on our web presence and social media, and especially those who post on our social media account need to think twice about every single word they put out.
Back when it happened: "lol the jokes were fine, fuck the SJWs. CDPR just earned a life customer!"
Now:
We need to emphasize the fact they're really, really assholes. Their pseudo morality & "offended" attitude is merely a disguise & their real intent is to attack & destroy anyone who dares even simply "poke fun" at one of their special protected identity groups. It's a throwback to the darkest days of religious fanaticism in which self-proclaimed "godly" people conduct witch hunts against anyone who violates or simply questions their dogma.
Like how when Jessica Price said some mean things to a dude, an enormous mob of people jumped on her back? The subreddit suddenly lit up like a Christmas tree as it got flooded by people who had absolutely no prior post history there.
Let's not pretend this is one sided. Both sides of the fence thrives in mob culture and revels in taking down an "enemy". You can't accuse the one and pretend the other is innocent.
She was attacking and insulting a huge supporter and favorite of the community. This guy made stupid harmless jokes. You can not compare these two.Like how when Jessica Price said some mean things to a dude, an enormous mob of people jumped on her back? The subreddit suddenly lit up like a Christmas tree as it got flooded by people who had absolutely no prior post history there.
Let's not pretend this is one sided. Both sides of the fence thrives in mob culture and revels in taking down an "enemy". You can't accuse the one and pretend the other is innocent.
If they were in the right they would have made a public statement.
How does this answer any or my previous questions?Because nothing was posted about it. This was a stealth firing. He was Fired straight after the tweet within a few hours IIRC. They wouldnt have been found out unil forum users noted he was missing. If they were in the right they would have made a public statement.
She was attacking and insulting a huge supporter and favorite of the community. This guy made stupid harmless jokes. You can not compare these two.
She was attacking and insulting a huge supporter and favorite of the community. This guy made stupid harmless jokes. You can not compare these two.
Back when it happened: "lol the jokes were fine, fuck the SJWs. CDPR just earned a life customer!"
Now:
It's not up to you to say the jokes were harmless.
It's up to whom, them?
Let's say I find your posts offensive.
Are you going to apologise? Are you going to delete them? Are you going to own up the fact that by your own definition you posted offensive content?
Are you paying my salary or my mortgage? No? Then you can be offended as much as you want, I don't care.Let's say I find your posts offensive.
Are you going to apologise? Are you going to delete them?
It's up to whom, them? Is there an Institute which certifies these things?
What you're implying is that as along as someone claims harm and offense then the joke can't possibly have been harmless and inoffensive.
Bullshit.
Let's say I find your posts offensive.
Are you going to apologise? Are you going to delete them? Are you going to own up the fact that by your own definition you posted offensive content?
Yes I can because every joke is harmless. He can be offensive for sure but a joke does not harm anyoneIt's not up to you to say the jokes were harmless.
...unless it's a fucking executive, no company is going to make a statement about firing an employee. It's nobody's business but the individual and their employer's.
How does this answer any or my previous questions?
So you have actually no idea if he broke any guidelines, you posted pure conjecture. Bottom line: you are angry at GOG because they did not get your written consent before making a management decision that resulted in "stealthily"* letting an employee go, hence you vent your frustrations here and vow never to buy from GOG again? Fair enough.
* it would be news to me that every company posts public statements about hirings and firings of their employees, I'll be having a look if GOG did make public statement about any previous firings or employees (they exist since 2008, they must have fired someone at some point), but I'm not holding my breath.
The PR guy brought them bad PR so he was fired. It sucks, but it is what happens.
The hypocrisy of those railing against SJWs is they act the same way. I rarely see so-called SJWs complain, but I see people complain about SJWs more often.
Their employer.
He's not a business trying to sell products and/or services. This is a bad argument to make.
Oh.
CDPR has the power to declare certain jokes are offensive.
Like how when Jessica Price said some mean things to a dude, an enormous mob of people jumped on her back? The subreddit suddenly lit up like a Christmas tree as it got flooded by people who had absolutely no prior post history there.
Let's not pretend this is one sided. Both sides of the fence thrives in mob culture and revels in taking down an "enemy". You can't accuse the one and pretend the other is innocent.