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Archie hits a new low at hyperbole (MW3 spoilers)

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Bollocks

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Zombie James said:
This is such bullshit. You've bought and you're playing an M-rated game, why the need to a) Tell users they're going to see disturbing content and b) Give them the option to opt-out?
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Cause that's something people have not signed up for when they bought the game. Just because it's M rated doesn't mean you can go ape shit and expect customers to take it all.
People still have their moral boundaries even when they buy M rated games.
 
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Bollocks said:
Cause that's something people have not signed up for when they bought the game. Just because it's M rated doesn't mean you can go ape shit and expect customers to take it all.
People still have their moral boundaries even when they buy M rated games.
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It's up to the rating's board to dictate the moral boundary, not the developer.
 
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shuri said:
I can't believe this thread is full of grown men pouring their eyes out about a videogame cutscene where a super cartoon looking polygonal little girl gets 'killed' (yet you barely see anything). This is set in the same game where you will personally kill hundreds of humans using assault weapons, rocket launchers, explosives in close combat.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27289554&postcount=737
shuri said:
I'm gonna sound over the top but..

When Scorpion returned from hell holding
Subzero's
spine, the way his body language was PERFECTLY expressed his regrets and anger. It's one of the first time that I feel that a videogame character really expressed well an emotion.

Props to the animation team, they REALLY did a good job here.
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The footage was just a screamer vid. It doesn't even really show you war, it just shows you an evil bad guy doing something evil.

To stay on-topic: EmCeeGramr you are my hero. I'm gonna show post #337 to all of my friends.
 
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Zombie James said:
This is such bullshit. You've bought and you're playing an M-rated game, why the need to a) Tell users they're going to see disturbing content and b) Give them the option to opt-out?

This is one of the reasons why No Russian was so badly executed. If you want something to be controversial or, more importantly, want users to experience something moving/shocking/immersive/engaging, don't give them the option not to do it, especially in an M-rated game. With No Russian specifically, if they gave you a pistol or a regular assault rifle instead of a huge pray and spray machine gun, and your terrorist buddies killed you if you weren't doing your part, it would have made the entire thing a lot more memorable and emotionally engaging.
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I find it odd that the option is "Im going to be offended". Typically, the person wouldnt know what said event is so how would he know whether or not he'd be offended? Such a silly question.
 
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I don't know what's so controversial about it. There are far more disturbing scenes in video games like the one in Homefront.
 
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Oh man I just realized the greater significance of that link once I realized who he was responding to.

Legendary.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I still the mission where you are a government official shooting up civilians with no justifiable end game is still a lot worse.
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It's the latest trend, though. Battlefield 3 emulates it in the campaign. The target gameplay demo of Rainbow Six Patriots does, too.

It's really lame stuff.
 
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I always thought that the airport scene from MW2 was unecessary and tasteless. It could easily have been a short cutscene instead. Pity to hear if there are something similar in MW3. I kinda suspect that they include this type of stuff just to get free PR, which really sucks. I'm looking forward to MW3 regardless though, but i'm pretty sure that the game would have sold just as much even without these special scenes.
 
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test_account said:
I always thought that the airport scene from MW2 was unecessary and tasteless. It could easily have been a short cutscene instead. Pity to hear if there are something similar in MW3. I kinda suspect that they include this type of stuff just to get free PR, which really sucks. I'm looking forward to MW3 regardless though, but i'm pretty sure that the game would have sold just as much even without these special scenes.
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If it was a cutscene it would have no impact. The game making you play it is what made it so incredibly moving.
 
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test_account said:
I always thought that the airport scene from MW2 was unecessary and tasteless. It could easily have been a short cutscene instead. Pity to hear if there are something similar in MW3. I kinda suspect that they include this type of stuff just to get free PR, which really sucks. I'm looking forward to MW3 regardless though, but i'm pretty sure that the game would have sold just as much even without these special scenes.
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I think it's less to drum up sales immediately, and is more of a long-term mindshare building exercise to grab sales down the line (e.g. Christmas). The idea is that mainstream consumers will hear "popular video game Call of Duty blah blah shocking controversial scene blah blah here's an expert to tell you it's bad blah blah" and as long as they remember the "popular video game Call of Duty" part the next time they walk into the games section of a store then it's good PR.
 
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butter_stick said:
If it was a cutscene it would have no impact. The game making you play it is what made it so incredibly moving.
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It had no impact on me because it didn't make you play the role. It was a matter of walking through the massacre feeling like a massive twat because there was no incentive to join in with the slaughter and you couldn't attempt to prevent it. It might as well have been a cutscene.
 
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jim-jam bongs said:
I think it's less to drum up sales immediately, and is more of a long-term mindshare building exercise to grab sales down the line (e.g. Christmas). The idea is that mainstream consumers will hear "popular video game Call of Duty blah blah shocking controversial scene blah blah here's an expert to tell you it's bad blah blah" and as long as they remember the "popular video game Call of Duty" part the next time they walk into the games section of a store then it's good PR.
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That might be indeed. But i think that it isnt necessary since Call of Duty is already such a known franchice at this point.
 
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butter_stick said:
If it was a cutscene it would have no impact. The game making you play it is what made it so incredibly moving.
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Personally i dont need this type of impact in games. I played the scene, but i didnt shoot a single civilian. Like with the CoD games from World War 2, i dont want to play a scene where i am a SS guard going around in a consentration camp killing prisoners. It would be shocking, and it is something that unfortunately happened in real life, but i dont want to play something like that.
 
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They call this game realistic and yet they're trying to tell me an unchained bike and an unattended football can be left outside without being stolen? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! The team probably didn't even bother coming to London to do research and just based it off Google Streetview or maybe not...

The news footage afterwards shows the bomb going off just down the road from the Palace of Westminster (Pro Tip: Big Ben is the name of the bell in side the tower so I'm already knocking of at least 7 from the possible 10 marks this game can get for making that mistake) on the Victoria embankment.

Which brings up the issue of where the hell were they. They clearly were looking at the tower and yet if you're on the embankment that would mean the River Thames is on your left. However they had a magically non ribbed bike on their left. How is this possible? There aren't that many places to get a good unobscured view of the tower like that so it's almost as if that whole location has been made up; as someone said earlier in this thread, a 3D collage of things people associate with London.
 
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