Commanche Raisin Toast
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Can they store them in a radiation-proof container on the moon? Or even multiple different sites for redundancy.
This kind of stuff terrifies me.
This kind of stuff terrifies me.
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Arctic stronghold of worlds seeds flooded after permafrost melts [seeds are safe]
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No, we won't be subjected to the brunt of it, but if you're under, say, 35 and expect to not see some form of deep and long-lasting consequences due to climate change you're mistaken. The Syrian conflict happening right now is, in some part, due to the rising temperatures in the region; even in dreary old UK records have been broken literally every year for the past three years. Of course if you're going to be 70 in 2050 you're not going to see flooded cities and the like but the impacts of climate change a whole lot more varied than just turning us into Waterworld.
Hate to break it to you. But only world leaders and military have bunkers that will survive the event that triggers the need for seeds.
I doubt you're on the list. Same with the majority population.
SwiftDeath
Member
The irony
Watch some uber world tree and surrounding oasis grow from it!
Insane Metal
Member
Good thing the seeds are ok.
But this warming world, man... we're fucked.
But this warming world, man... we're fucked.
There are actually vaults all over for some levels of redundancy and the position of this vault was selected with consideration towards geopolitical conflicts and possibility of a nuclear strike.
For perspective, they have panoramas of the entire place viewable on their website. Water only got into the main tunnel, which is 100m long, although the article doesn't specify where the water leaked in from or how far it got.
https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global-seed-vault/interactive-visit/
We should be thankful that this happened so soon, so that it can be adjusted and fixed before this becomes a regular occurrence. Whether it's stronger, more waterproof doors or other solutions, I'm sure there are ways to alleviate this.
https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global-seed-vault/interactive-visit/
We should be thankful that this happened so soon, so that it can be adjusted and fixed before this becomes a regular occurrence. Whether it's stronger, more waterproof doors or other solutions, I'm sure there are ways to alleviate this.
As a record.
Why are some people on this forum always looking for a fight and instantly lunge?
Should've probably built it at the south pole instead. Last I heard global warming didn't affect the southern hemisphere quite as strongly
they are tainted!
oh come on.. don't be that guy. They probably store different varieties of anything anyway - including the most unaltered version we still have access to. And that's the right thing to do. Noah brought tigers and lions on his arch, not Ligers after all
nah, it's usually just the GMO and atomic energy defence force. Usually
they are tainted!
by capitalism and greed
oh come on.. don't be that guy. They probably store different varieties of anything anyway - including the most unaltered version we still have access to. And that's the right thing to do. Noah brought tigers and lions on his arch, not Ligers after all
nah, it's usually just the GMO and atomic energy defence force. Usually
Ploid 3.0
Member
Scary.
But that seed vault looks so badass:
Looks like the entrance to a Half Life Episode 3 stage.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
Can you check the list again? Maybe you just overlooked me... LOOK OVER THERE IT'S ELVIS IN A UFO!!!!
*runs past you*
Professor Renegade
Banned
"But climate change isn't real tho you guys"
It's gonna be too late to do anything once politicians pull their heads out of the sand.
It's gonna be too late to do anything once politicians pull their heads out of the sand.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Looking for a fight? Lunge? Did any of the phrasing or vocabulary suggest hostility? I don't think it did. I was merely expressing a clarification, since FUD about GMOs is not good.
Don't be what guy? They don't store GMO seeds in there.
balladofwindfishes
Member
They didn't design a bunker built in 2008 to resist Global Warming? A bunker that was supposed to outlast mankind?
Lol. That should work.
It's real but isn't man made.
...wait, I can't find my latest press kit. Are we back to it isn't real?
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
There are several major seed conservatories and many universities have seed vaults.
Mostly are gene banks .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_bank
Mostly public fears purported by groups of lobbyists, conspiracy theorists, alternative medicine and other types of loons.
Tons of public universities and research labs does genetic modification research.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
Oh cool! Now I'm suddenly really interested in this kind of stuff. Wonder of there are any good documentaries on plant/wildlife preservation beyond refuges and preserves.
I wonder if that's where the next Metroid is hidden.Scary.
But that seed vault looks so badass:
Phew. Dodged a bullet there, albeit only narrowly. Just shows that humans will only ever be able to account for n cases, when reality easily can come up with n+1 problems. Sure, expecting the permafrost shield to stay in place was optimistic, and not accounting for the influx of water doubly so, but hey. At least Norway has a vault seed of that size. Most other countries are happy with comparatively tiny university vaults and the like.
And yes, GMO may be clean, but the idea behind this storage is to keep a backup of unaltered, known-good stock. This does not qualify the GMO as dirty and it makes no claims about the nature of the (traditionally bred/selected-for and thus technically altered as well) plants. It just means that the plants in this vault are a well-researched and trusty source of food and materials, validated by genuinely countless years of usage. If anything, this water problem should show that humans cannot be trusted to have enough brainmeats to handle something like GMO with sufficient foresight and thus need vaults like this one.
And yes, GMO may be clean, but the idea behind this storage is to keep a backup of unaltered, known-good stock. This does not qualify the GMO as dirty and it makes no claims about the nature of the (traditionally bred/selected-for and thus technically altered as well) plants. It just means that the plants in this vault are a well-researched and trusty source of food and materials, validated by genuinely countless years of usage. If anything, this water problem should show that humans cannot be trusted to have enough brainmeats to handle something like GMO with sufficient foresight and thus need vaults like this one.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Man, global warming is a bitch ain't it?
Just think if we lost all those seeds...
Just think if we lost all those seeds...
Vigilant Walrus
Member
I worry about us being exposed to bacteria hundreds of millions of years old that our immune systems will not have defense against. Any bird or fish coming in contact with an ancient bacteria or virus that could be spread airborne could wipe us all out. And on the eve of the post-antibiotic age...
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
also the fact that they are storing it for some sort of post-apocalyptic future and it can't even survive a flood.
el oh fuckin el
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
But it did survive a flood. If you even want to call that a "flood".
There are multiple seed vaults all over the world.
This kind of sucks, but the seeds survived so it's not like the vault didn't do its job.
Oh that doesn't matter. The whole deal with those bacteria is that they're naturally resistant to antibiotics
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