Everything just feels like "set piece, set piece, set piece, commercial for something else.," The movies used to be kinda fun and it's actually cool to go back and watch some of the earlier ones while they were still figuring this stuff out. Trying to figure it how to make it mesh with the real world. Nowadays nothing has any weight and just feels pretty phoned in. Still interesting to watch for technical scale and spectacle of course, I'll give you that - no one spends more money than Marvel/Disney does on exposition these days. It's just so dull, though. I'll likely check out Endgame when it's on vod just to see how it ties up but I think I'm good after that, at least until something real bizarre/interesting comes down the pipe. Anyway to wrap up I am in my mid 40s and I'll acknowledge that I'm pretty past the target demo for these films so I'm not terribly perturbed.
The fuck? What does someones stance on the LGBTQ community or their choice in games have to do with their sexuality? There is no way of accurately telling someones sexuality based on either of those things.
That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard.
The guy was asked why he thought a certain way, and started his answer with "Well I guess." All he did was offer examples of why he might have believed something he found out was untrue. The soap box preaching of why his guess wasn't a good one is not needed. He had a mistaken belief. End of story.
wow 2 movies out of 21 feature diverse leads. so daring. so diverse.
good luck on your merger, diverse boys! would be nice to get a photo of your diverse shareholders & executives swallowing up all media on the planet but yeah it's probably too diverse and would blow my tiny mind.
Black Panther's woke credentials are weak. It's good to see it mix things up with the cast but they didn't make much effort.
After, what, 17 Marvel movies they have a central and supporting cast that are majority black and it's set around Africa. They could have done a regular American setting hero movie similar to Spiderman or Iron Man and had a majority black cast. There are sitcoms that are mostly black. There are actual neighbourhoods that are mostly black. But Marvel are doing a black cast and it's because it's set around Africa. What were they gonna do, set it in Africa and have a mostly white cast. And why was it in Africa, so they can have the Marvel formula with cool looking African stuff, battle rhinos and spears, exotic costumes. It's got more in common with blaxploitation than wokeness. Which is hardly surprising considering it's origins in the 60s/70s when exotic African locations were a big thing in adventure stories, all that Captain Spalding, Dr Livingstone I presume etc, and all the blaxploitation films too.
So Black Panther doesn't deserve that many woke brownie points IMO.
My vote is for them to add whatever diversity they want without saying anything about the color or gender of those who watch / review. Just make good movies however you vision them, and stay away from identity politics. Don't complain about who reviews you, who watches you, etc., and all will be good.
As long as they are good. If anything I am going to give up forums and news websites. I cant take the political/social issues shoved down my throat constantly. If the movie makes it obvious I probably wouldnt see it. But other than that, i see anything that I think will entertain me
I just watch them for free in bulk after it's online, and most of them have been mediocre.
The only time I was genuinely into it was Winter Soldier. I was not surprised one bit when they hired those directors to make Avengers. I'm pretty sure the Russos are done after Endgame. James Gunn had one great movie and one shit movie. And the Thor Ragnarok director seems promising.
So they're down to one director I'm slightly into and that's it. It will probably go back to being highly mediocre and skippable for a while.
Maybe I'll get excited if they get a new directorial talent for X-Men, but most marvel movies seem pretty bland now. Hell, I thought Infinity War was only watchable once because of multiple stupid plot points like Starlord pistol whipping Thanos, or Wakanda not having any technology, vehicles or artillery and instead using stupid spears and infantry only even though they can supposedly go to space lol. I think the movies are pretty overrated now.
Out of all the Marvel stuff, the only things that actually stand out as great are: Winter Soldier, Civil War., Guardians 1. Thor Ragnarok is enjoyable as well (Jeff Goldblum helps a ton). That's not a lot.
As others in this thread though, I'm not too excited about the future of the MCU after End Game.
The new generation of heroes they are building up just doesn't interest me that much. The only one I've historically liked a lot is Spiderman but I don't really like MCUs take on the character. The Spiderman comics I grew up reading were mostly about the more grown up and experienced Spiderman which I've been wanting to see on the big screen for a long time, so after 2 movie franchises of Spiderman in his early days I was disappointed that Marvel went even further back and turned it into "Spidermans Highschool adventures"
This. I hate with my every fiber this SJW nonsense, and how disney is trying soo hard to appease this idiots, at the expense of episode 7 quality. Diversity is great, but dont make your movies about your political agenda. I was playing the campaign of battefront 2 and is soo embarrassing the way they try to paint females as strong and with no feelings. Like theres a part where you get sucked into space but just at the last minute the sealing windows closed, and she get hit hard against the window but play it like it was nothing, and they do a close up of her putting a badass face, is soo ridiculous. Same they are doing with captain marvel, showing like this robot females, where they show no feelings.
in the past year i have seen Infinity War, Black Panther, Ant Man, and Guardians 2. going into this year there was already the expectation that i see Infinity War 2, and now this Captain Marvel, and whatever else they will guilt me into seeing. and this is only one comic book franchise, completely ignoring every other film company in existence.
it's funny cos when i was a kid, you would see at most 1-2 comic book or giant big IP blockbusters a year. now that i am an adult I am expected to watch more of these movies than when i was a kid. it's doesn't make any sense honestly. at some point it all becomes too much to bother with.
It's just a shame because I don't really involve myself in other forums. There just aren't many places where I can geek out about the MCU.
Every thread is going to basically be 60% Debbie Downers saying the MCU is shit or it's for children or how their "taste is too refined for comic book movies".
I had already kind of lost interest. I’ll usually watch them on Netflix if I feel like it but even kind of losing free interest lol. The diversity thing is just another cudgel I’ve taken enough of the last decade. Winter Soldier was the only one I thought was pretty awesome as an action film. To be fair though I’ve never been a comic book guy so the characters don’t have the same intrinsic value to me.
I didn't go to Captain Marvel. The trailers didn't grab me and Larson making speeches where she had to keep clarifying that she doesn't hate white dudes kept me from the theatre. Either one of those things goes away and I almost certainly would have gone. That said, while I fundamentally disagree with Feige's assertion that simple diversity makes better stories (it doesn't - any more than a lack of diversity does. Talent does, regardless of the color, belief system, sexual orientation, etc... of those involved), I'll keep going to Marvel movies either until they suck (came pretty close after seeing Iron Man 3, but for fanboy reasons - they ruined my Mandarin, dammit!) or I hit another Captain Marvel situation.
A thing isn't good simply by virtue of being different. I'd rather eat a meal that I've eaten a thousand times that's prepared properly, than a meal I've never had that's been prepared poorly.
Execution is key. Diversity bears no sort of value on its own, quality is quality regardless of how it's packaged. People go on and on about diversity like it adds some sort of inherent value to things, when all that matters is execution.
That said, I have no real interest in Marvel films these days, they're too formulaic, too bland. I'll watch Endgame simply because I started the whole thing years ago, I may as well see it to its end.
I watch all movies but prefer to repeat those i like. a day will come when there will be infinite infinite length movies in vr and we will each choose one of our own choosing and following, but they will all be connected and restricted by the laws of mathematics.
In fact you could be the star of one such movie, or perhaps merely one of the coprotagonists,