The difference at the min is sony has stopped buying exclusives and is now concentrating on buying marketing and advertising rights, so they spending money advertising the games upto launch etc, the only downside is the games are still coming to xbox and pc. for me multiplatform games are now only on my pc and ps5 only used for first party games, just a shame my ps5 collecting dust as there is no first party games im wanting to play at the min
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As a PlayStation player, I feel concerned about the future
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Luigi Mario
LoL'd your comment which means you are on the Sony fanboy shit list now, congratulations, they will come for you.
gimmmick
Member
Just like the cowboy's, it's always Microsoft's year.... every year.
feynoob
Banned
The moment money decided to join the party, all the small fights became meaningless.
MS showed Sony that they can simply buy success easily and don't have to build a huge games like them.
Zenimax/Bethesda is example of a power move like that. MS will get starfield as exclusive game, even though they didn't make that game.
Ar¢tos
Member
Nah, we represent a tiny portion of their userbase. The casuals surely got all excited for the shitty GaaS games, the vaporware Phantom Blade (might as well start calling it vaporware because we know it will never be released just like Lost Soul Aside) and Spider-Boring 2.
I enjoyed it for the indies, lots of great indies announced.
hyperbertha
Member
Don't ask questions and CONSOOM CONTENT.
Infested Goblin
Member
Could be worse. It could have been nintendo and a jail time
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TheGodfather07
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Sony barely had any 3rd party exclusives. That narrative is actually way overstated. I bet we'll see the term "console launch exclusive" many times at the xbox show. Was anything outside of final fantasy even exclusive to PS from 3rd parties? It was all multiplatform stuff. Even MGS3
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Fabieter
Member
Casuals get excited for meaningless cgi trailers. Even if you are totally into gaas hoe would you get excited for that. The news was basically devs developing games without any further information at least for their gaas showings.
feynoob
Banned
It could be that Sony allowed them.
Hell blade 2, starfield and avowed gameplay is enough for that. Plus stalker 2 release date.
That is enough for Xbox to have a good year, after disappointing year.
Mercenary09
Member
Btw since media use to complain about all the white male leads in games am I allowed to now complain about it seeming like every game has a POC female character usually with colored hair or some shit? It's getting real old. Not sure why we can't have a balance here
MasterCornholio
Member
I don't think Sony allowed Xbox to have a good year. If Xbox has a good year it will be due to them doing well and not the competition failing. I wouldn't give Sony any credit if Xbox managed to do well with their 1st party studios.
Yoboman
Member
Ar¢tos
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony did some surprise big reveals right after Xbox showcase.
Showcase before to please indie devs, big surprise reveal(s) after.
systemr123
Member
You mean to say that blue fanboys are actually much more realistic than green fanboys? At least they have the capacity to notice that bad things equal bad things even if it’s their preferred platform, unlike the other side who are still playing around between Phil’s buttocksThe sudden tone shift from fanboys is quite a sight to behold.
Dr. Suchong
Member
One mid showcase and every Sony zealot loses his/her damn mind.
I'm just happy Granblue Fantasy: Relink is finally coming.
I'm just happy Granblue Fantasy: Relink is finally coming.
Fabieter
Member
Do you think? If that was me planning this I would definitely start with a state of play kinda thing and than go with a big fucking showcase after everyone else finished to blow every other publisher away. That it for now me thinks tho.
feynoob
Banned
The showcase was for their first party games.
Showing it after Xbox event devalues their showcase event. I don't think Sony will do that.
Though they might do couple of trailers during goty event.
mrmustard
Banned
Never said this is a Sony only thing. Microsoft has Stalker 2, Scorn and some smaller games i think.
Sony has Kena, that cat game, Ghostwire Tokio, Forspoken, Silent Hill 2 Remake, Deathloop, The Star Wars game, FF16 and some smaller games i think.
Nintendo, no idea if they do this.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is exactly what I said months ago, everything that's rolled out was planned years ago, the only thing Jim & Hermen has produced are PC port's ( not that it's a bad thing) and accessories.
But with them PS5 is on the back burner
Johnny Concrete
Member
I'm not allergic to GaaS as some of you here, but I do think it's a bit of a dumb thing to focus so much on them.
It's such an obvious dull marketing strategy where they looked at the numbers of the biggest success games out there and going to chase the trend. But not in a careful or focused way, but throwing shit against a wall and seeing what sticks. 'Let's make 10 of them and if 8 of them fail and 2 have great success we are still ending up positive.'
It's such an obvious dull marketing strategy where they looked at the numbers of the biggest success games out there and going to chase the trend. But not in a careful or focused way, but throwing shit against a wall and seeing what sticks. 'Let's make 10 of them and if 8 of them fail and 2 have great success we are still ending up positive.'
feynoob
Banned
I wonder why shooter games specifically?
There are MMO games which Sony can make. That would have been a better option than a useless live service game that will die in the first month.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
why ? did jimbo destroy ps5?
Cyber_hunter026
Member
Came in, and the only thing that I’m excited for is marvel’s Spider-Man 2. not much of what was shown really caught my eye except for dragon’s dogma 2. Overall this live service shit dump is really concerning. the only one I can see out of the bunch succeeding is marathon maybe and whatever naughty dog is working on. the rest will crash and burn in a fiery explosion. seriously no point in devoting this much time, money and resources into Fortnite wannabe nut chasers.
Banjo64
cumsessed
You know what,
davidjaffe
made a comment in his Redfall video.
Shu would not be rude. But if he played something shit he’d be like ‘this is not good’.
And devs would shit themselves and strive for more so the next time he rocked up, they could present him with something worthy of his time.
Does Herman Hulst have the stones to rock up at any Sony first party studio and say that? No.
davidjaffe
made a comment in his Redfall video.Shu would not be rude. But if he played something shit he’d be like ‘this is not good’.
And devs would shit themselves and strive for more so the next time he rocked up, they could present him with something worthy of his time.
Does Herman Hulst have the stones to rock up at any Sony first party studio and say that? No.
GHG
Member
Exactly. And I'm glad to see the reaction has been what it has been from people who are invested in the playstation ecosystem. If this isn't what people want then everyone should make it known, early. Not sit here and pretend everything is fine and defend crap for a decade, allowing it to fester (not naming names but everyone knows what I'm talking about).
Soon we will fight Ryan and Hulst in the streets.
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RagnarokIV
Member
I actually recently sold my PS5. Used the cash for new 4070. I'd buy a revised model if full BC was ever on the cards though.
From PS4 onwards, Sony are different. Gone are the quirky interesting games (outside of Astro Bot). It's all AAA and GAAS focused going forwards and not even in an original way - it looks focus group driven.. I've become less and less interested.
From PS4 onwards, Sony are different. Gone are the quirky interesting games (outside of Astro Bot). It's all AAA and GAAS focused going forwards and not even in an original way - it looks focus group driven.. I've become less and less interested.
kyussman
Member
There was certainly a strong case of 'the Fortnite effect' in many of those games.......that's gaming though I guess,everyone wants to be the next live service game that blows up and makes them a fortune.I'm certainly too old for that shit......looks like I may sit the entire gen out.They even managed to make Spider-Man 2 look like something I don't think I want to play and I enjoyed the first one.....now there are two of them and ones an annoying fucking kid,no thanks.....and that villain looked boring as fuck,big muscles guy.....really?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Some of you guys have this "what have you done for me lately" mentality forgetting the track record.
If a company doesn't blow their load in one showing it means they have other shows to cover the breath of stuff they're working on.
And if it happens not to align with your preference then that mean something like the streaming device or even a PSP or VR device isn't for you.
It's going to be ok. Breath.
If a company doesn't blow their load in one showing it means they have other shows to cover the breath of stuff they're working on.
And if it happens not to align with your preference then that mean something like the streaming device or even a PSP or VR device isn't for you.
It's going to be ok. Breath.
yurinka
Member
I'm 'concerned' because I don't have enough time and money to play all the great games that are released. Even the ones released on PS alone.
And will continue being the case during at least this or next year because I saw many great games shown in the showcase plus many more that also are coming, announced or not.
And will continue being the case during at least this or next year because I saw many great games shown in the showcase plus many more that also are coming, announced or not.
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IllegalLemon
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I think people are right to be concerned, big boy Jimbo outlined PlayStation's push towards GaaS not too long ago and that, is indeed concerning. GaaS didn't make PlayStation what it is, Story driven single player games did and I would consider it naive to shy away from what made the platform desirable in the first place.
All things considered, this was just a glimpse of what the Jim/Hermen era of PlayStation holds. I wholeheartedly doubt that what they had shown, was everything. Undoubtedly the bigger games and high budget single player titles are still under wraps. What people wanted, was a showcase. And that's what they got. Will people react the same way if team Green's showcase is overshadowed by Indies and only very few first party games?
I'm pretty sure they too have a bunch of GaaS titles planned, because that's where today's young gaming society is headed (Gen Z's & Millennials) and that's where the big corpos are aiming to go, alongside a bigger push to mobile gaming, because that's where the money is.
All things considered, this was just a glimpse of what the Jim/Hermen era of PlayStation holds. I wholeheartedly doubt that what they had shown, was everything. Undoubtedly the bigger games and high budget single player titles are still under wraps. What people wanted, was a showcase. And that's what they got. Will people react the same way if team Green's showcase is overshadowed by Indies and only very few first party games?
I'm pretty sure they too have a bunch of GaaS titles planned, because that's where today's young gaming society is headed (Gen Z's & Millennials) and that's where the big corpos are aiming to go, alongside a bigger push to mobile gaming, because that's where the money is.
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DarthPutin
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The melodrama over GAAS is exagerrated. We knew for years that Haven and FireWalk were working on Multi-Player titles.
More reasonable concern is how long we'll have to wait for next 1Party single-player games after Spider-Man II. Will they have new showcase this time of next year to re-introduce Death Stranding and something else?
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feynoob
I do think they will finally have a good presenation (looking forward to it, hoping for Avowed). The sheer force of gravity is dragging them towards finally releasing some games. HB2 will look amazing, StarField will be big, and hopefully Avowed looks nice and comes soon. I am always starving for fantasy RPGs. I'd love a glimpse of Fable.
More reasonable concern is how long we'll have to wait for next 1Party single-player games after Spider-Man II. Will they have new showcase this time of next year to re-introduce Death Stranding and something else?
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feynoob
I do think they will finally have a good presenation (looking forward to it, hoping for Avowed). The sheer force of gravity is dragging them towards finally releasing some games. HB2 will look amazing, StarField will be big, and hopefully Avowed looks nice and comes soon. I am always starving for fantasy RPGs. I'd love a glimpse of Fable.
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LazyParrot
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Unfortunately I suspect that at this point Sony's core fanbase isn't angry boomers on online message boards, but people who buy full-priced live service games like CoD and Fifa every year, own GTA 5 on PS3, PS4 and PS5 and spend money on MTX for all of them.
Fatmanp
Member
The likelihood of any of these GaaS games hitting is quite low. Any success is likely to be short lived as people go back to their main GaaS game after a few weeks.
Edgelord79
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TheAmazingSpiderMan
Member
I remember the events where before the trailers were shown there was a tagline ‘captured directly from a PS5’ or ps4 I can’t remember now, to ‘not actual gameplay’ lol how times have changed.
Even casuals thought this showcase was weak. Probably not as disappointed as us but they defo noticed the lack of.
Even casuals thought this showcase was weak. Probably not as disappointed as us but they defo noticed the lack of.
harry mason 1989
Banned
Yes the showcase was shit
Badlucktroll
Member
I really hoped to see Santa Monica’s game, Bluepoint’s game, Bend’s game, and Silent Hill stuff, primarily Silent Hill: The Short Message, which was already rated. NOTHING.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Writing was on the wall when they moved to Cali and closed Japan Studios. This is the NormieStation now.
Rac3r
Member
I mean people have been complaining about Sony being too formulaic with their first party output (third person, single player action games) and now that they're shaking things up, people are still complaining (rightfully so). However, I do think it's a reasonable business decision to branch out into multiplayer and live service games rather than relying heavily on third party. Sony knows day one single player games like Spiderman, TLOU, and God of War is what sets them apart from PC and Xbox, so that's not going away.
Don't get me wrong, that showcase was absolute dogshit after nearly 2 years, but the live service stuff is just a growth strategy, not a replacement for quality single player games. Remember, FF16 and Spiderman 2 are right around the corner.
Don't get me wrong, that showcase was absolute dogshit after nearly 2 years, but the live service stuff is just a growth strategy, not a replacement for quality single player games. Remember, FF16 and Spiderman 2 are right around the corner.
kaizenkko
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The point is: where are their next single player projects? Besides Spider-Man and Wolverine, we don't know about nothing. Who guarantee they will keep doing great single player games? After yesterday, I can't say I'm confident in Sony/Playstation.
BbMajor7th
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I was always in favour of diversity - what we seem to have gotten is a different flavour of homogeneity, not just in terms of representation, but also aesthetics. I feel like 2017-present should be dubbed Generation Magenta.
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Guilty_AI
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Just play multiplatforms like normal people. Theres no shortage of those to look forward to.
