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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Wow what a sharp and witty retort.
It's not a full game, it's a tech demo that evolved into a bunch of really cool playable levels.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
oh god, look at all of these Mini Games:
the NES and SNES were such shit consoles! they barely had any full games!
edit: oh god and the PS1 as well!
look at these Minigames! they are everywhere!
edit2: EA also tried to get away with it!
Wait, we judge game length today based on 40 years ago? I guess halo infinite could have been a 8 bit 4 hour side scroller and been considered a full game, who knew.
01011001
Banned
Wow what a sharp and witty retort.
It's not a full game, it's a tech demo that evolved into a bunch of really cool playable levels.
is Mega Man 1 a full game?
yes we do. and there are many modern games that are that short. Shovel Knight says hi
and I added Mirror's Edge as well as you can see
edit: I can add more:
many RE games literally have unlocks if you finish them in under an hour or 2 hours, and that's not even really hard
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01011001
Banned
it's already installed, what downloaded there was an update. they improved the graphics a bit from the 1.0 version that is preinstalled
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Good for shovel knight. A few indie games being short doesn't mean the benchmark for a full game has moved. You guys talk about this demo turned into a bunch of really cool levels as if it's a full $70 aaa game. It is not.
Do you really think current greedy sony includes a full game with thier brand new console for free? Zero chance.
Also, directly from team Asobi
“It felt like, if we could absorb as many of these tech demos as possible, and make them inside a cohesive experience, it would probably have a lot more value and fun than having a collection of minigames,” Doucet said. “And then there’s the benefit of bringing our character to a wider audience.”
Basically they took a big group of tech demos and slapped it together into a "game".
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
is Mega Man 1 a full game?
yes we do. and there are many modern games that are that short. Shovel Knight says hi
and I added Mirror's Edge as well as you can see
edit: I can add more:
many RE games literally have unlocks if you finish them in under an hour or 2 hours, and that's not even really hard
Wait so now your comparing a 20 year old game that takes 6-20 hours? You've lost me.
And re-plays/speed runs don't count.
01011001
Banned
what is a full game by your definition? define "full game" and define why Astro's Playroom isn't a full game. many games use a bunch of concept ideas and throw them together to make a full game out of it, that is nothing special and never stopped a game from being a "full game"
is Tetris a full game? is Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix a full game? and if so, why? if not why not?
playing through REmake 3 in less than 4 hours is not hard nor can you categorize that as a speedrun.
playing through REmake 1 in less than 4 hours is also not hard. maybe if you get lost, but if you are good with puzzles and don't die too often you are through that game in less than 5h for sure
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
You seem to be benchmarking still against 20 or 30 year old games (that aren't even the same type), its 2021. A platform game is expected to be longer than ASTRO.
It's not a full game based on today's standards. There is really no debate.
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Zekra Dezivad
Member
I pretty much enjoyed them, I set a really good time in attack mode too
Lady Redfield
Member
Such an incredibly fun game.
I also have Astro Bot Rescue Mission for PSVR and it is one of the best games I have ever played. Just a really fun experience from start to finish, these Astro Bot games are basically Super Mario but robots, imo.
I also have Astro Bot Rescue Mission for PSVR and it is one of the best games I have ever played. Just a really fun experience from start to finish, these Astro Bot games are basically Super Mario but robots, imo.
abstract alien
Member
Beyond the charm, the nostalgia, overall fun, nice visuals and performance, etc....
The most surprising aspect of this was the execution of platforming feel in 3D, and the weight of the moment. I was shocked at how good it felt. They nailed that part of it all to a surprising degree.
The most surprising aspect of this was the execution of platforming feel in 3D, and the weight of the moment. I was shocked at how good it felt. They nailed that part of it all to a surprising degree.
dano1
A Sheep
It was a great VR game but most people don’t have that. So let’s hope for both.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
You said one of the stupidest things anyone has ever said in here and you double down instead of owning up to it. What in your delusional mind is the required length for a game then?Wow what a sharp and witty retort.
It's not a full game, it's a tech demo that evolved into a bunch of really cool playable levels.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Just because your too silly to see reality doesn't make it so. I don't see a massive wave of anyone supporting your supposed "factual" side.
And just to be 100% clear, I still think it's fantastic and tons of fun.
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remember_spinal
Banned
No one agrees with you. Not one person
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Yep, they do, you two or 3 people disagreeing doesn't prove the whole universe takes that viewpoint.
To be honest, it seems kind of sad that you guys seems to tie your self esteem to if this is a full game or not. (Based on the childish insults)
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Literally everyone commenting in this thread but okay. I just watched an ign review for "the Gunk" a game in 2021. Its 4 hours long. I guess it's not a 'full game' either eh?
Matt_Fox
Member
Astro's Playroom is such a fun game, and was a bit of a flashback for me to playing Jak And Daxter: The Precursor Legacy on PS2 (anyone remember that one?).
It's still the only PS5 game I've played which makes sense of the Dualsense, and the music really elevates it too. A collectathon where you really want to 100% every level, and the fact that its free generates loads of goodwill after that initial unboxing of your precious new console.
It's still the only PS5 game I've played which makes sense of the Dualsense, and the music really elevates it too. A collectathon where you really want to 100% every level, and the fact that its free generates loads of goodwill after that initial unboxing of your precious new console.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
All 3 of you who commented eh? That's overwhelming. Like I said before, depends on the type of game. You launch a game like ratchet and clank (which is the same type as astro) and it's only 4 hours long, then yes, typically that's not a full game. The reviewers would have screamed this from the rooftops.
Edit: Just read that review, it's clear they had issues with its length too, lol
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They didn't say mini-game though. What's the magic number then? What makes a full game?
remember_spinal
Banned
So its not a full game?
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
I decide. Or you do, do you really care that much? Perhaps it's on a personal level decision.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Not to me, nor would I pay full price as a result. (no idea what it's selling for though)
I do find often games that are not "full" in my eyes are discounted day one.
ParaSeoul
Member
Don't think that series failed by any means
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Its pretty generic platformer imo, forget about the haptics after about 30mins of playing.
ButchCat
Member
Oh no I'm not saying the series was a failure by any means they wouldn't keep pumping out new entries and spin-offs if it were, my post wasn't focused on the commercial success. Little Big Planet came out at a time when the Wii took the market by storm and I think mainly because they saw what platformers can do and wanted a new Crash Bandicoot type of situation.
ParaSeoul
Member
Probably not because the platforming was not the main focus of LBP
ButchCat
Member
Pretty sure it was I mean you are jumping most of the time, sure it had some puzzle elements but which platformer doesn't?
ParaSeoul
Member
I was referring to the level creator and online features
LaughingStock
Member
Great little game. It's the only game I think makes good use of haptic feedback.
I can't remember if I platinum'd it but I completed the Playstation museum.
I can't remember if I platinum'd it but I completed the Playstation museum.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Returnal makes just as good use of Dualsense. Maybe not as direct