sixteen-bit
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localization staff should name some of the characters Fight and Heal
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Atlus announces Shin Sekaiju no Meikyuu (New Etrian Odyssey)
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Magicpaint
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I don't know how to feel about this...
SpaceBridge
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Well, I may just give this one a chance when it's localized. Minimal story has always held me back from enjoying this series.
Frederica "Fight" Irving.
Komori had a lot to do with the story of EO1, so I'm hoping he will do it justice with this game. As much as I prefer the traditional, if it is done well, I'll happily play it.
Who am I kidding, I'll buy it regardless.
slaughterking
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There is very few in terms of story and dialogue, but the bits and pieces that are there are usually well written and kinda neat. Even though I'd say EO I has the only story in the series that is worth expanding upon.
It was apparently developed concurrently with IV by the director of II and III (which is why he had to hand off those duties to someone else). That's why I'm confident there's an EO V in progress with a more traditional style.
Aquamarine
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wut.
Aeana was right........there is no other reaction.
ElectricThunder
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Strange on several fronts, but just maybe they can pull it off if this experiment is polished on all fronts.
Let's hope for an even more souped up FM Synth treatment for the soundtrack to this remake thing! Yeah! Hopefully they will course correct on whatever happened to the EO 4 one---Expanded Audiences need FM Synth love too as they likely literally would not know what they've been missing.
Hell, give me some crossover action with Dark Spire for maximum auditory win via freaky Operatic FM Synth stylings...
Let's hope for an even more souped up FM Synth treatment for the soundtrack to this remake thing! Yeah! Hopefully they will course correct on whatever happened to the EO 4 one---Expanded Audiences need FM Synth love too as they likely literally would not know what they've been missing.
Hell, give me some crossover action with Dark Spire for maximum auditory win via freaky Operatic FM Synth stylings...
Wait, if they come back, and the game has voice acting... does that mean I can finally find out how to pronounce Tlachtga?
Magicpaint
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My concern is that if this sells really well, then they'll just make EOV like this.
This is now the most important part of the game.
If it sells millions, perhaps. But I don't think that's very realistic.
That's roughly what I've gone for, but I'm not sure if the initial T is silent, not sure if you need a more guttural 'ch' sound, and I can see an argument for a soft G, too.
I believe you pronounce it with silent "l" and silent "g", so I guess its Tock-tah.
I don't think it is much different than the split between Persona and mainline SMT games.
I think a lot of us are missing the point here.
EO 1 with fixed boss drops, Strafing, the modern rest/retire system, a legible font, probably better class balance (hexer and ronin won't suck, protector and medic won't be godly) and a new class/gunner from eo 2 for the low low price of using a story party???
The only thing its missing right now is confirmation of FM synth, which would be grand.
EO 1 with fixed boss drops, Strafing, the modern rest/retire system, a legible font, probably better class balance (hexer and ronin won't suck, protector and medic won't be godly) and a new class/gunner from eo 2 for the low low price of using a story party???
The only thing its missing right now is confirmation of FM synth, which would be grand.
I don't think it would have to sell millions to displace the original formula of EO. In Japan EO typically sells about 140k for each entry. If this new direction with a popular voice cast and more story and characters proves to be popular enough to sell over 200k, I think Atlus would already seriously consider making EO5 in the same vein.
FM is probably gone for good.
Pureauthor
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Also the part where I already played through it.
But they showed new enemies and maybe the dungeon layouts will be different, soooooo
The only important addition I really want is Battle Speed option. After having that in 3 and 4, it was a bit hard going back to 1 and 2 because battles felt like they're in slowmo.
If the timeframe wasn't so soon I'd almost believe that this reboot was going to have a tie in anime with it. EO1's story in particular would work well if fleshed out a bit.
Just to note, if they use the mechanics of the recent games, Immunize/Defender are already scaled back. It was less about those skills be super amazing and more about how they functioned: They worked pre-Armor. So a big hit was cut down by both those skills and then the result went through Armor as a flat reduction.
Put it another way, you can get far better damage reduction (percentages) in EO3 and EO4 but neither are as absurdly good as Immunize/Defender were merely due to Armor reduction taking place before these go into effect.
Of course, Boosted Immunize was still really silly efficient for a single buff but still!
NinajHeartless
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As someone who absolutely adores Etrian Odyssey...this sounds lame :/
You could argue exactly the same to say that's why we won't be getting EO4, but we are.
Still sceptical, of course, but I don't think it's wise to completely write it off.
Extra Sauce
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If they actually managed to infuse compelling storytelling in an Etrian Odyssey game, I might actually bite.
I think the lack of major changes is what's riling up long term fans of the game. If it was, say, an ARPG or something, most of us would have been content to laugh it off. But the similarity to the mainline games makes it seem as though this approach might replace what's already there, and some people, me included, are not happy with that.
That said, what I'm most concerned about is not the story, but what it bodes for character customization. Not everyone is runs the same parties in the previous EOs, even if there were optimal party makeups. But if there's a set lineup a lot of theorycrafting and customising the party would be lost. And that's a huge part of EO.
I don't think their concern is whether non-fans think it looks the "same" or not, only that non-fans might now have additional reasons to be interested in the franchise if they weren't before - famous VAs and a theme song can go a long way in Japan when we're talking about the otaku market.
Dash Kappei
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Anybody?
Anybody?
The stories in the EO games aren't connected in any way afaik. I skipped out on EO2 and EO3 myself, so I'm not certain, but I finished EO1 and started playing EO4 recently, and it doesn't even seem like the same world. Just similar themes and gameplay, but the stories seem to stand alone.
How exactly are the Devil Survivor ports pointless? Vanilla DeSur sold about 110k in Japan, and Overclock did 40k. A +35% is not to be laughed at, especially considering this is almost pure profit, as the port was fairly cheap.
Furthermore, we're talking about a new IP that launched (relatively) late on DS's cycle and got blinked by many gamers due to that. The remake (both for its availability and its performance) definitely helped the audience grow and the franchise to become more widespread; I also doubt anyone feels like the series is being abused -- in fact most must feel glad for the whole motion -- we're talking about Atlus here.
It's guaranteed that DeSur 3 is happening on 3DS, and it will feel much more grand just for the fact that the series has a continued momentum on the platform.
Pureauthor
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EO1 and EO2 inhabit the same world and knowing EO1's backstory gives a bit of grounding to the plot of EO2, but there are no concrete links with the rest of the series.
2 and 1 are in fact connected and there are references sprinkled throughout 3 and 4 that could lead to one very fucked up world at different times.
It could all be different regions of the world effected by the same apocalyptic event in different ways.
abstract alien
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Yeah, I don't think I want this. Not by the description anyway. Especially not voice acting.
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