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August 2008 NPD Results
- Thread starter sonycowboy
- Start date
_leech_ said:
Your logic doesn't make sense. I never asked if the amount of profit is equal. I asked if it makes money. Using your logic the HD versions had to sell 1.65 million copies to break even but I highly doubt that. I'm sure they made money after much fewer copies than that. It would seem that if the Wii version makes money for them then they will keep making it. They won't care if it makes less money than the HD version as long as it's also making money.
See my point?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Crisis said:
I seem to remember little victory dances from last month's NPD when the PS3 outsold the 360 by only 20k.
OldJadedGamer said:
And theres a reason for that - its different when the machine costs at least a 100 bucks more and had no exclusive for the month of july and outsells the 360 by 20,000; whereas this month the 360 had 2 pretty important exclusives, sold 50$ cheaper (for the 20GB models) yet only managed a 10k lead. See the difference? Im not trying to be a smartass btw, im just trying to show the difference between the two points in my opinion.
thuway said:I was hoping to see Vesperia in the top 10. I don't want to believe that JRPGs are a dying genre.
When a 11 million userbase fails to pull in more software than a 600k userbase, that really says something. It might eventually break 300k US+Japan, so it's still pretty decent. I wonder if Trusty Bell PS3 will come close to that number in Japan alone...
Eteric Rice
Member
I'm not really surprised, didn't Madden 08, and 07 on the Wii suck?
Buying Madden on the Wii is probably to risky for a lot of people that were burned from older Wii versions. Why go with the Wii version when you can be safe and buy a 360 or PS3 version?
Buying Madden on the Wii is probably to risky for a lot of people that were burned from older Wii versions. Why go with the Wii version when you can be safe and buy a 360 or PS3 version?
Metalmurphy
Member
And will continue to have one... You think PS3 and 360 will loose support? :lolTunaLover said:
Xisiqomelir
Member
TunaLover said:
You can do what I do and play Saturn 87% of the time.
DayShallCome
Member
jimbo said:
That's no doubt a fact, but I think that Wii has shown us on a lot of different occasions that first month sales aren't necessarily indicative of overall sell through. While it will be hard to do, it'd be nice to see how Madden Wii continues to sell over the next few months leading up to Christmas.
goldenpp72
Member
I cant believe there is no vesperia figures yet..
Fady K said:
You are trying, and failing, at painting a scenario where 360 had this amazing month and was supposed to sell great. Give me a break.
Too Human is far from an important exclusive, and Vesperia too. Love the spin,"only" managed a 10k lead, as if it was supposed to murder the PS3 in sales, lol.
fernoca said:
That's pretty impressive for a kart racer. But then again, it's a nintendo game with nintendo characters.
Grecco said:
Did Too Human and Tales of Vesperia launch that month? Not trying to be a jerk, but July still had blowback from the MGS4 launch. I think the months are narrowing on an even keel, but you can take plus points for either system.
A) The 360 has garnered two more exclusives and an even cheaper price point. Its easy to see why it outsold the PS3.
B) This says, that even at 399, PS3 can pull off impressive numbers against the 360 where it is $100 + cheaper.
Xisiqomelir
Member
Jammy said:
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thuway said:
No
Bending_Unit_22
Member
Didn't EA put out some Wii specific commericals during the holiday season for the Wii version? I recall one with an old lady acting like a football player. Wii owners by and large simply do not run out and buy the games they want the first 6 weeks they are out and I think sales tend to go higher relative to the PS360 for the holidays (wasn't it December of last year when with a decently smaller install base the Wii began to overtake the 360 in monthly software sales?). That's a pretty sensible thing to do, let the HD gamers run out and buy up their allotments of Madden early and then later advertise the Wii version to capatialize on the greater legs Wii games experience.pgtl_10 said:
Also I do think EA hurt themselves by both releasing a terrible Madden 08 on the Wii, it's going to take more than "call your shot" mode to entice me back after that experience, and the cover is simply aweful. However, I did my part for Wii sports games and bought Tiger Woods 09 and MLB Power Pros 2008 for the Wii last month. Nevertheless, I highly doubt EA will lose money on Madden 09 for the Wii or stop making as some seem to suggest, and yeah it'd be pretty cool if they would take some time and think of novel ways to use IR to enhance the game like PES.
Psychotext
Member
Can someone help me out with this? I'm trying to work out the launch aligned NPD figures and I think the values I have are a little off. Do these seem roughly right to the sales agers in the know?
As of month 21
Wii: 11.86m
360: 5.84m
PS3: 5.24m
As of month 21
Wii: 11.86m
360: 5.84m
PS3: 5.24m
Version 3.0
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Ranger X said:
Actually, this gen is looking to turn out somewhat more balanced than last. The Wii is on track to outsell the PS2, but the PS3 and Xbox will beat the Gamecube and Xbox by a higher percentage.
By the time the next consoles roll out, we may be at 90/30/30 or something like that, instead of the 100/20/20 thrashing that the PS2 dished out. Of course, this time around the winning console didn't have the year head start, but even so, the Wii is "only" selling 2-3x what the others do, instead of 4-5x.
That's worldwide...here in the US, it does look a lot more like last gen with the places scrambled.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
You think the PS3 will outsell the 360 in Oct/Nov? I dunno man. It was tight before the price drop, I'm pretty sure the 360 will run away with the 2nd place crown for the rest of this year barring unforeseen actions from Sony.GSG Flash said:
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Fady K said:
But as GAF has told me millions of times, the PS3 isn't just selling as a games machine. Don't forget it's the best Blu-ray player on the market and the follow up machine to best selling video game system of all time. The "value" of the PS3 should have it skyrocketing ahead of the 360 according to GAF of course.
Does this mean that consumers aren't seeing the value of Blu-ray?
OldJadedGamer said:
Not from me. I thought the 360 would do worse than the PS3 for this month but I was half-right. It did worse overall but I didn't know that the supply of PS3s would be constricted as well. Anyway don't worry so much about "victory dances". Act like you've been there before.
TheGrayGhost said:
Explain to me WHY should, for example, EA shift games to the Wii, when:
1. Madden sold the same amount this year as it did last year, but the Wii's LTD is X3 last years.
2. Madden on the 360, even though it now has a smaller user base outsold it X9
3. Madden on the PS3 with not even half the user base outsold it x5.
WHY should they?
And they seem to be doing just fine on the 360 and PS3.
markom58 said:
Not for a lot of people that have been keeping up with what's REALLY going on. A lot of last month's PS3 sales were still strong due to MGS4. Some people expected the 360 to outsell it last month due to its $50 drop in the 20GB SKU and when it didn't a lot of people jumped the gun and said the PS3 was permanently taking over, prematurely of course. What probably happened is they both had higher sales than they would have normally had WITHOUT those things, but the MGS4 effect was simply stronger than the 360's clearance sale effect. But as always a bunch of noobs started posting about crap they don't know and typically the masses just follow.
Wanna see another example based completely on wishful thinking? Check it out:
GSG Flash said:
WHY?
1. The 360 JUST outsold it for August, a month prior to a price drop that was basically known about.
2.The 360 just had a price drop, so September is a given.
3. The price drop will last longer than September and will carry on into the holiday season.
4. The 360 has arguably the stronger overall fall line-up, especially when it comes to selling power.
5. GOW2 launches in November, arguably the biggest 360 game other than Halo.
What is your reasoning for thinking that?
WrikaWrek said:
I didnt say it was supposed to sell great
I said in comparison to what the PS3 had for the month - aka, nothing but Disgaea 3 - the 360 had a 50$ cut on the 20GB models (like it wasnt cheap enough already ) and to top that off - getting the most important RPG released on either the Wii/PS3/360 thus far, and just because Too Human turned out to not be so good doesnt mean it wasnt hyped as a big exclusive No spin. The 360 clearly won by 10k units - thats a fact. But its not a big deal when you consider the factors honestly. Maybe you should remove your fanboy goggles and realize that "10k units of 360 sold over the PS3" is weak.