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Battlefield 1 |OT2| "All Quiet on the GAF Front"

TheRedSnifit

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The main problem with the Liu (for me)is that it competes mostly against the 1906, but the benefits (+1 bullet, no toggle lock animation) are just not really worth it when you can literally magdump out to 90-100 meters with the 1906 and you can't really do that with the Liu (or at least not as reliably).
Don't think anything will replace the Model 8 for me though.

By the way, really enjoying the Remington 1900. video link (on Twitter, sorry)

Toggle lock animation is the greatest thing though.




That's a Pedersen rifle, but same deal

Nah, players move extremely fast in BF1. BF4 had maps like Silk Road and Golmund Railway that felt massive because you moved really slowly as infantry to get to the action, needing vehicles to get anywhere...but those maps are dwarfed by BF1 maps.

This is from Reddit:



Maps are bigger in BF1, even DICE said so. But to compensate and get rid of the "dead time" of walking across objectives in past BF's (a common complaint of newcomers from games like CoD), they made everyone move as fast as cars.

This is cheesing it a bit since Sinai is only that much bigger because of E, which most people don't run to.
 

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Toggle lock animation is the greatest thing though.




That's a Pedersen rifle, but same deal

I know, but I had to come up with some drawbacks to the 1906.
The gifs are from Forgotten Weapons, aren't they? Ian puts out a ridiculous amount of content, hoping to see some more weapons from there in BF1. In particular, the Farquhar-Hill would be nice to see :)
 

TheRedSnifit

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I know, but I had to come up with some drawbacks to the 1906.
The gifs are from Forgotten Weapons, aren't they? Ian puts out a ridiculous amount of content, hoping to see some more weapons from there in BF1. In particular, the Farquhar-Hill would be nice to see :)

Indeed. Forgotten Weapons is fantastic.
 

Vorheez

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Hey guys, gotta question

Forgive my ignorance, but how does this new revolution edition of BF1 coming out not screw us original premium buyers? I'm in Canada, so after I bought the game and premium, I spent $140 on it. You're telling me that I could have waited until now and got the same value for almost half that ($80)?

Please tell me I'm missing something because that seems pretty shite
 

iRAWRasaurus

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Hey guys, gotta question

Forgive my ignorance, but how does this new revolution edition of BF1 coming out not screw us original premium buyers? I'm in Canada, so after I bought the game and premium, I spent $140 on it. You're telling me that I could have waited until now and got the same value for almost half that ($80)?

Please tell me I'm missing something because that seems pretty shite
Welp you played the French dlc early and already played the game compare to new adopters?
but yeah...I am salty but meh noting I can do besides voice my complaints.
 

TheRedSnifit

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Hey guys, gotta question

Forgive my ignorance, but how does this new revolution edition of BF1 coming out not screw us original premium buyers? I'm in Canada, so after I bought the game and premium, I spent $140 on it. You're telling me that I could have waited until now and got the same value for almost half that ($80)?

Please tell me I'm missing something because that seems pretty shite

I guess it's unfortunate, but They Shall Not Pass was so dead that I can't really care about it. Latecomers getting a discount on DLC I paid for is better than not being able to play the DLC at all.
 

LORANT92

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Hey guys, gotta question

Forgive my ignorance, but how does this new revolution edition of BF1 coming out not screw us original premium buyers? I'm in Canada, so after I bought the game and premium, I spent $140 on it. You're telling me that I could have waited until now and got the same value for almost half that ($80)?

Please tell me I'm missing something because that seems pretty shite

You're not missing anything, and while they could give some rewards to premium early adopters, it's not something that's particularly rare. Game prices get decreased over time.
Premium on its own could use a price decrease however, as it is, it costs the same as the Revolution edition.

Edit: and yeah, if it means more players, I'm all for it.
 
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Hey guys, gotta question

Forgive my ignorance, but how does this new revolution edition of BF1 coming out not screw us original premium buyers? I'm in Canada, so after I bought the game and premium, I spent $140 on it. You're telling me that I could have waited until now and got the same value for almost half that ($80)?

Please tell me I'm missing something because that seems pretty shite

you could have waited, but you wouldn't have been playing the game before.
 

Tackleberry

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So I traded in my regular edition and got the Revolution edition.

For those of you that got the game PLUS season pass.. yeah you got screwed. HARD.


But that being said, these new maps... kinda suck.

Way too much open ground with nothing between.
 

ThisOne

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So I traded in my regular edition and got the Revolution edition.

For those of you that got the game PLUS season pass.. yeah you got screwed. HARD.


But that being said, these new maps... kinda suck.

Way too much open ground with nothing between.

I think that's true of one map (Galicia) which, after you play it a few times, isn't really that way anyway.
 

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Can someone tell me about the state of the game, specifically for a non-premium player?

I bought this at launch and greatly enjoyed it for a few weeks. Have they made any major changes? What kind of content has been added for free? Is it still fun and populated on PC?

Thanks
 

Fury451

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So I traded in my regular edition and got the Revolution edition.

For those of you that got the game PLUS season pass.. yeah you got screwed. HARD.


But that being said, these new maps... kinda suck.

Way too much open ground with nothing between.

A lot of the maps force you to move between trenches and crevices if you don't want to run into no man's land. I like that about it, it has something of an authentic feel to what a lot of the battlefields would look like, with wide-open stretches divided into two sides

It doesn't always make for compelling gameplay though, I can kind of see that, particularly because the game is centered around ridiculous fast-paced combat and everybody has an automatic weapon, instead of what would be more bolt action exchanges of volley fire.
 

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I can't play more than one Ops map at a time, the game gets stuck on the loading screen whenever it goes over to the second map or starts up a new one. The game also randomly decides that it's not going to connect to the servers. And that on top of the absurd UI lag that's been going on for two weeks.

DICE, what the fuck. This game is inexplicably devolving into Battlefield 4-tier bugginess.
 

TheRedSnifit

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Seriously, what's up with Operations matchmaking? Every time I try playing either of the Russian campaigns, I'm placed in an empty server. Keep in mind that I'm trying at like 7PM PST, so it's not like I'm playing at 3AM or anything.
 

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Seriously, what's up with Operations matchmaking? Every time I try playing either of the Russian campaigns, I'm placed in an empty server. Keep in mind that I'm trying at like 7PM PST, so it's not like I'm playing at 3AM or anything.

It has been like that on PC for any Operations for the past eight or so months.
 

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In case anyone missed it, another Battlefest event is ongoing currently. Premium trials are live until the 30th, you get 100 scrap every day for logging in, plus there are new community missions - the current two are 50 heals for a Cei-Rigotti skin and 50 semi-automatic rifle kills for a battlepack. Double XP should be live this weekend as well iirc.
 

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Only have 3 more weapons to unlock. Grinding the trip mine kills is becoming a real pain. Not looking forward to shooting down to planes with the LMG. ugh. I paid for premium shouldn't I have access to the guns and not have to jump through these ridiculous hoops?
 

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Only have 3 more weapons to unlock. Grinding the trip mine kills is becoming a real pain. Not looking forward to shooting down to planes with the LMG. ugh. I paid for premium shouldn't I have access to the guns and not have to jump through these ridiculous hoops?

Couldn't agree more. Imagine having to grind for the new maps too. "Win 5 games of (insert game mode nobody plays) on St Quentin Scar to unlock Albion!".

Wait, maybe I shouldn't post this joke. It might give them ideas.
 

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Only have 3 more weapons to unlock. Grinding the trip mine kills is becoming a real pain. Not looking forward to shooting down to planes with the LMG. ugh. I paid for premium shouldn't I have access to the guns and not have to jump through these ridiculous hoops?

We should have the option to unlock them. Especially those in my situation that paid for Premium and for the Ultimate unlock kit. I mean, I paid almost the price of the full game to unlock everything in the base game, of course I'll also want the DLC weapons to be unlocked.
 

Akai__

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Only have 3 more weapons to unlock. Grinding the trip mine kills is becoming a real pain. Not looking forward to shooting down to planes with the LMG. ugh. I paid for premium shouldn't I have access to the guns and not have to jump through these ridiculous hoops?

We should have the option to unlock them. Especially those in my situation that paid for Premium and for the Ultimate unlock kit. I mean, I paid almost the price of the full game to unlock everything in the base game, of course I'll also want the DLC weapons to be unlocked.

I just can't understand what the person that designed those must be like, if they think this is fun.

If you really must have these challenges, can't you at least have something for all classes that is simple or maybe useful that actually promotes teamplay? Why does it have to be incredible boring, luckbased and just straight up annoying stuff? Why the progression doesn't work in retrospect is an other good question.
 

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I just can't understand what the person that designed those must be like, if they think this is fun.

If you really must have these challenges, can't you at least have something for all classes that is simple or maybe useful that actually promotes teamplay? Why does it have to be incredible boring, luckbased and just straight up annoying stuff? Why the progression doesn't work in retrospect is an other good question.

If they have to force us to do stuff it should be like this:

-get x amount of revives
-get x amount of resupplies
-do x amount of damage to vehicles as assault

That would all make sense and would just naturally happen as you play anyway.
 

PeskyToaster

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If they have to force us to do stuff it should be like this:

-get x amount of revives
-get x amount of resupplies
-do x amount of damage to vehicles as assault

That would all make sense and would just naturally happen as you play anyway.

Yup, it should encourage team play and proper use of gadgets as intended. Not fuckin shoot 2 planes with LMGs.
 

zorbsie

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If they have to force us to do stuff it should be like this:

-get x amount of revives
-get x amount of resupplies
-do x amount of damage to vehicles as assault

That would all make sense and would just naturally happen as you play anyway.

This exactly. If this was the case I wouldn't have a problem with it. Now I've got to chase down damaged planes in hopes that I get the kill shot with an LMG. No help at all to my team. And yet Dice keep preaching, PTFO. lol
 

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Why does my BF1 have an 852.23 MB update? I was on yesterday and the day before and had the small UI update, which I assume was for Battlefest content. I want aware of any upcoming content updates after ITNOTT DLC. It feels too early for the weapon balance and conquest changes to come out of CTE. Anyone know?
 

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Yup, it should encourage team play and proper use of gadgets as intended. Not fuckin shoot 2 planes with LMGs.
I think they thought people shooting at planes with LMGs would be much more common than it is, it happened a lot to the choppers in BC2 Vietnam. I think the chance of getting sniped while attempting it here is much higher.
 

PeskyToaster

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Had a great night last night. Shot down three or four planes with the anti-tank artillery truck. Those heavy bombers going low n' slow makes them such easy targets. Then an attack plane tried to dive bomb me head on. Easy shot. Then on the next game I went 55 and 10. That's pretty much my max in a standard Conquest 64 right now.

I thought Galicia was too open at one point but I've been playing it with a shotgun and you can maneuver around really well in the trenches and craters. Captures the idea of a no man's land pretty well. I wish there was a more Amiens style map in this expansion but it wasn't a common type of battle in the war. I'm really glad they included the Russian Civil War, really good designs. Just waiting for that Galipoli map...
 

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Conquest doesn't feel as great as the value of capturing points has diminished and the game panders to sniper/distance play over close quarters. The difficulty of sniping is trivial compared to Battlefield 3/4, so you wind up with half of a Conquest server playing stop-and-pop shootbang over distance. And it's especially worse on the most open maps where snipers have an inherent advantage due to massive stretches of open terrain. Throw in the limited vehicle and equipment variety and bad maps highlight the poor pull and tug of Conquest BF1 and the weirdly skewered points system that's basically glorified TDM.

I still absolutely adore this game and Conquest is my always go-to for playing, because on the right maps BF1 is utterly glorious. But yeah. The choice of setting limited vehicle/equipment variety combined with DICE's emphasis on accessibility over complexity makes the worst maps just boring as hell in Conquest.
 

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So... I just updated the game on PS4 and it won't leave the screen with the planet Earth and the music playing? Wtf?

Edit: restarted the PS4 and it solved the problem.
 

TheRedSnifit

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Conquest doesn't feel as great as the value of capturing points has diminished and the game panders to sniper/distance play over close quarters. The difficulty of sniping is trivial compared to Battlefield 3/4, so you wind up with half of a Conquest server playing stop-and-pop shootbang over distance. And it's especially worse on the most open maps where snipers have an inherent advantage due to massive stretches of open terrain. Throw in the limited vehicle and equipment variety and bad maps highlight the poor pull and tug of Conquest BF1 and the weirdly skewered points system that's basically glorified TDM.

I still absolutely adore this game and Conquest is my always go-to for playing, because on the right maps BF1 is utterly glorious. But yeah. The choice of setting limited vehicle/equipment variety combined with DICE's emphasis on accessibility over complexity makes the worst maps just boring as hell in Conquest.

Haven't they updated it to classic Conquest yet? But yeah, nuConquest isn't that great.
 

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I hate how you can't see how many tickets are left in a game. Every server I join the match is over as soon as I get in, so I never get the map I want.
 

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I hate how you can't see how many tickets are left in a game. Every server I join the match is over as soon as I get in, so I never get the map I want.

And thanks to the bullshit map voting you can't even learn the map rotation and join a server playing the map before the map you like to guarantee a full game on the map either.

Did I mention how much I dislike map voting and how terrible the average players taste in maps is?

I do complain too much though lol
 

Night.Ninja

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So is premium worth 40% off I'm currently on the fence about purchasing. Played a few of the new maps on the weekend quite enjoyed them but I'm not sure if I should wait and see if it goes into the EA access like battlefield four premium did. And is the premium only multiplayer content ?
 

iRAWRasaurus

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So is premium worth 40% off I'm currently on the fence about purchasing. Played a few of the new maps on the weekend quite enjoyed them but I'm not sure if I should wait and see if it goes into the EA access like battlefield four premium did. And is the premium only multiplayer content ?

It might be cheaper selling your hard copy and buying BF1 Revolution. Its all MP content. I have no idea. I know there were a limited time when BF4 DLC was free to download.