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[GrizzNKev]

So, this demo was "on Xbox One." Except it was the PC version of the game. It crashed to the Win 8 desktop and the UI had mice and keyboard keys. And when you died it showed the BF4 @ E3 ad. So it's the E3 PC demo with an Xbone controller hooked up. And it's 8v8 on a full-sized Siege of Shanghai conquest map. With nothing unlocked. No scope on the sniper, no medkits, no rocket launchers, nothing. And I was thrown in halfway through a match. I encountered like 4 enemies the whole time. Biggest waste of an hour in line ever.

I had to rant because why is a demo for a mega-blockbuster game so damn embarrassing?

This was the screen shown upon death:

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[IN&OUT]

where is TheKyle when you need him!

EDIT: also I though that all X1 units are running REAL game code on actual dev kits? been told that several times in Gaf.

 

[Dead Prince]

how you going to make a thread without pictures.

 

[GrizzNKev]

how you going to make a thread without pictures.

Go watch a video of the E3 demo and subtract 75% of the players, then add the bulkiest controller since the Duke.

 

[McDougles]

They must have been too busy seeing Titanfall to complete their demo.

 

[Iacobellis]

First 720p, now this.

The fuck, DICE?

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

I feel like Dice awkwardly struggles with doing simple things at times.

 

[BlackGoku03]

All this less than enthusiastic news about BF4 isn't making me glad I preordered the game.

how you going to make a thread without pictures.

Probably didn't have time to take any while playing.

 

[3rdamention]

Didn't major nelson say it was a 64 player online demo? I swear in his Pax announcement he did cause I didn't think consoles supported that many players


Edit: Yep....

Battlefield 4: Known for their world-class multiplayer, DICE is bringing Battlefield 4’s epic 64-player battles, vehicular combat and all-out warfare to North American fans this week. Gamers will have a chance to go hands-on with the “Siege of Shanghai” beta launching in early October. With the release of Battlefield 4 this holiday, players will experience an all-new level of destruction and dynamic environments with a game-changing concept called Levolution, and for the first time for Battlefield console gamers, 64-players running at 60 frames-per-second on Xbox One. #BF4


http://majornelson.com/2013/08/27/xbox-one-at-pax-prime-on-august-30-september-2/

 

[IdreamofHIME]

I would say "dear diary" or "thanks for the blog", but after an hours wait I'd be pissed too.
That's pretty bad.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Was it at least a PC version dialed back to medium settings?

They must have been too busy seeing Titanfall to complete their demo.

this meme needs to die in a fire.every.single.thread...

 

[BlackGoku03]

Go watch a video of the E3 demo and subtract 75% of the players, then add the bulkiest controller since the Duke.

The controller is larger than the 360 controller?

 

[DBT85]

Go watch a video of the E3 demo and subtract 75% of the players, then add the bulkiest controller since the Duke.

Thoughts on the controller?

 

[meta4]

BF4 looks like a proper snoozefest.

 

[Iacobellis]

Didn't major nelson say it was a 64 player online demo? I swear in his Pax announcement he did cause I didn't think consoles supported that many players

Next-gen versions are supposed to be 60FPS and support 64 player matches.

 

[IN&OUT]

Go watch a video of the E3 demo and subtract 75% of the players, then add the bulkiest controller since the Duke.

You mean X1 controller? I thought it was small :/

 

[Sober]

Next-gen versions are supposed to be 60FPS and support 64 player matches.

Just not both at the same time?

 

[GrizzNKev]

The controller is larger than the 360 controller?

Thoughts on the controller?

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

 

[Mercury Land-Snake]

BF4 looks like a proper snoozefest.

But building collapse! That's next-gen right?

 

[Tonguer]

how you going to make a thread without pictures.

Probably didn't have time to take any while playing.

I recall at the PAX East both for Borderlands 2, they made it explicitly clear - they even see a camera or phone, you will be removed from the line/booth.

 

[level_e11even]

My friend's cousin who lives in Germany went to Gamescom on day 2, just in time to play Obliteration. He met Jackrfrags who played the PS4 build, and he told him it looks great, kind of like the PC version but on medium settings. He said the only thing lost was that the textures weren't as crisp (PCs are on Ultra), but everything else: the gameplay, 64 players, water simulation, 60 FPS, etc. was all there. He said it looked 4 times better than BF3 on consoles.

So, just wait one more month to see for yourselves. Even though I don't play BF on console, I think it'll look great.

 

[IN&OUT]

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

I can see that would cause accidental press. also I thought grips were a little short.

 

[DJwest]

Go watch a video of the E3 demo and subtract 75% of the players, then add the bulkiest controller since the Duke.

You didn't like the X1 controller ?

 

[GrizzNKev]

I don't get why PAX had the E3 demo instead of the Gamescom demo. I mean it was running on a PC with PC UI so wtf.

 

[3rdamention]

Next-gen versions are supposed to be 60FPS and support 64 player matches.

Sweet, I did edit my post....They were supposed to have 64p matches on Xbox One according to major nelson. Wonder if its still coming?

 

[Iacobellis]

Just not both at the same time?

No, both.

 

[meta4]

But building collapse! That's next-gen right?

Seeing the same building collapse again and again is hardly something exciting. The maps look ugly as hell to. Something about this game looks so drab. Maybe its the art style.

 

[Coiote]

How the hell will this game be ready for launch?

Dice, please, delay the PS4/X1 versions. This situation is embarrassing.

 

[SMZC]

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

So, does this mean Dual Shock 4 is the superior controller?

 

[level_e11even]

Sweet, I did edit my post....They were supposed to have 64p matches on Xbox One according to major nelson. Wonder if its still coming?

Yes it is. 60FPS at 720p upscaled, 64 players and water simulation. All there.

 

[Mik_Pad]

Seeing the same building collapse again and again is hardly something exciting. The maps look ugly as hell to. Something about this game looks so drab. Maybe its the art style.

Bad Company 2 art style was way better than BF3 and BF4.

 

[Wishmaster92]

You didn't like the X1 controller ?

I'm guessing.....no.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

I was afraid this would be the case when they revealed the thing. =/

 

[Iacobellis]

So, does this mean Dual Shock 4 is the superior controller?

Based on the impressions from developers and the public, I think it is.

 

[GrizzNKev]

So, does this mean Dual Shock 4 is the superior controller?

Significantly.

I'd say DS4 = X360

DS3 = XB1

In terms of comfort.

 

[Bel_Air_Jeff]

I have a strange feeling that this game is going to feel very rushed..

I have a fear that most of the launch games for ps4 and xbox one will not live up to expectations.

the meltdowns to come this holiday system..

oh boy..

 

[Whipped Spartan]

So you played the game for 5 minutes and hate the controller. Got it.

 

[IN&OUT]

Significantly.

I'd say DS4 = X360

DS3 = XB1

In terms of comfort.

But MS spent 100m on the thing!!

Damn!

 

[McDougles]

this meme needs to die in a fire.every.single.thread...

It's 2:23 AM local. The spirits have clouded my judgment of not using memetics I despise in shallow attempts of humor.

 

[Mercury Land-Snake]

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

They shouldn't have fucked with this area of the controller:

It was great the way it was. From the impressions I've read, the bumpers are harder to hit, it's harder to feel the difference between the bumpers and triggers (since they bleed into each other), the triggers have less travel and resistance (making them feel worse to pull). Such a shame.

 

[Twin Tails]

So you played the game for 5 minutes and hate the controller. Got it.

Ha

 

[GrizzNKev]

So you played the game for 5 minutes and hate the controller. Got it.

No.

I spent a similar amount of time with both the Xbone controller and DS4. I fumbled with them both a bit, getting used to the new feels. My conclusion is that the DS4 is better.

 

[DBT85]

So this thread is now about the controller.

 

[level_e11even]

I have a strange feeling that this game is going to feel very rushed..

I have a fear that most of the launch games for ps4 and xbox one will not live up to expectations.

the meltdowns to come this holiday system..

oh boy..

I don't believe that at all. If you're subconsciously thinking that for that IGN article, I'd say you will be surprised. I've been told by a friend that the PS4 build looks great, kind of like the PC version but on Medium. Nothing is being cut off from the game to free up resources, and there's the constant 60 FPS. Just one month until the beta and we shall see.

 

[Off-Kilter]

Not really but the design makes it uncomfortable to hold and pull triggers on. Here is a graphical representation explaining why you will accidentally pull triggers all the time on xbox one.

Trigger finger marked in red.

Significantly.

I'd say DS4 = X360

DS3 = XB1

In terms of comfort.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

In other words, in order to use the triggers on the XB1 controller, you need to wrap your fingers around it the same way you wrap your fingers around the 360 controller's bumpers? I can see why that might make people accidentally pull the triggers.

 

[Iacobellis]

They shouldn't have fucked with this area of the controller:

It was great the way it was. From the impressions I've read, the bumpers are harder to hit, it's harder to feel the difference between the bumpers and triggers (since they bleed into each other), the triggers have less travel and resistance (making them feel worse to pull). Such a shame.

Is it weird if I say the new controller looks less elegant than one that came out in 2005? The overall shape and design seems much more bulky.

 

[GrizzNKev]

So this thread is now about the controller.

Well the only revelation for BF4 was that they showed the PC version E3 demo at the Xbox booth, and 8v8 is not fun at all on a massive conquest map.

 

[SMZC]

Significantly.

I'd say DS4 = X360

DS3 = XB1

In terms of comfort.

Interesting.

What about the Xbox One's shoulder buttons? No one ever seems to talk about those, and I've always thought LB and RB were the worst part of the (otherwise great) 360 controller, along with the d-pad. I know the latter is improved, but are LB and RB any better in the new controller? Are they comparable to the Dual Shock's L1 and R1?

 

[GrizzNKev]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

In other words, in order to use the triggers on the XB1 controller, you need to wrap your fingers around it the same way you wrap your fingers around the 360 controller's bumpers? I can see why that might make people accidentally pull the triggers.

Indeed. It's a longer reach due to the curvature of the controller and the placement of the apex of the trigger. It's less of a trigger pull and more of a full-finger squeeze. It felt awkward.

Interesting.

What about the Xbox One's shoulder buttons? No one ever seems to talk about those, and I've always thought LB and RB were the worst part of the (otherwise great) 360 controller, along with the d-pad. I know the latter is improved, but are LB and RB any better in the new controller? Are they comparable to the Dual Shock's L1 and R1?

No complaints about the bumpers. They felt pretty much the same as the 360.

 

[kurisub306]

I really wish DICE would just show us some console footage already. Get on Fallon already and at least show us some single player footage at the very least. They must have something optimized.