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Bayonetta 2 director reiterates interest in continuing the franchise
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Vilix
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They weren't Platinum's to begin with. But, I do agree. I'd like to see Bayonetta and Vanquish IPs in the hands of a publisher that would do them justice. The problem with that is that mainstream consumers don't seem to care about them.
The only way it would be ported to MS/Sony would be at the blessing (and potential profit) of Nintendo. Not sure if the details of the deal were disclosed, but if they lost money something like that wouldn't be out of the question..
But unless its an easy port or they have people already working on it -- this late in the game, they might as well just work on a B3.
But unless its an easy port or they have people already working on it -- this late in the game, they might as well just work on a B3.
Diddy Kong
Banned
I'm down for round 3.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
It was a prestige project for Nintendo, and I could see them eventually supporting another sequel for similar reasons. Launching their next console with Bayonetta 3 would draw in a certain day one crowd that typical Nintendo IPs can't. It could also be a good swan song for Wii U. It seems like they're actually working to build an audience for 3rd person action games, even though the results haven't been exactly heartening yet. These things take time (and a certain frequency of software).
Death Metalist
Member
Make it happen. I'm in. I'm in all the way.
James Scott
Banned
I doubt SEGA would want to pay for it with their current situation, and I doubt Nintendo would want to pay for it either since...why would they put a game that they paid for didn't sell well on their competitor's platform?
Hopefully not taking things too off-topic here, but the comparisons between 1 and 2 I always think should be interesting to make is on revenue. Because B1 sold over a million, but how much of that happened when it was much reduced in price? Compared to B2 doing as Nintendo releases do and holding its value for most/all of its saless?
Just as a tiny piece of data, look at Amazon UK price tracker camelcamelcamel. Peak price is £36, at release, which rather swiftly drops to sub £20 well before May of the same year.
Edit: and so a good question would be - was B1 front loaded like B2, or did a lot of its sales come from the bargain bin?
That is interesting. I know not all the copies were sold at 60$ point, but we can't ignore the fact that the game did eventually sell more than a million copies. Calling it an absolute flop is kinda harsh. It was more of a "medium" selling game. Not a flop, not a success.
I don't think Bayo 2 sold over 600,000 copies. Isn't that the Chartzz number?
dont get too attached. you might get hurt
BouncyFrag
Member
I'd be down with a multiplat sequel/spinoff. I'll also take a straight up sequel or spiritual successor to Vanquish while we are at it.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Christ, people are so desperate they are knowingly using Chartz numbers. C'mon people.
royox
Member
And after beating the game I still don't understand why.
Uninteresting plot with uninteresting characters. Cereza being toned down A LOT if we compare with B1, gameplay is almost a 1:1 of Bayos'1 but with some new weapons, they dropped the cool cinematics of B1 to static images while people is talking, the OST is nothing special and the graphics are bad tier for 2014 standars.
Bayonetta was a 10/10 because the game deserved it, it was a god damn masterpiece. Good graphics, good plot, good characters, god tier OST and god tier gameplay.
After beating the game my only conclussion is: B2 has the praise it has because it's a Nintendo exclusive and it deserved to bomb that hard.
Is this serious? Haven't finished bayo 2 yet, but its been such a step up from 1. After all the hype the first game gets around here, I was relatively disappointed by it. Lacked polish everywhere, whereas bayo 2 cleans everything up.
Razzorn34
Member
I certainly don't agree with you. But, this was a decent post until you threw in that type of bullshit. That sure as hell isn't true, and you know it.
Werewolf Jones
Member
I don't think you played Bayonetta back to back with Bayonetta 2. Try re-playing Bayonetta again after playing 2, the combat somehow IS a lot stiffer, also Bayonetta has really awful vehicle sections and instant kill one button press QTEs. Cereza in Bayo 2 has more of a personality than the first game, in the first game she didn't even know who she was. I don't really get the graphics comment, it looked fine to me. Bayonetta has the static cinematic effect too btw, so...
Bayonetta was a 10/10 in 2010. It's 2015 after going back and playing through it several times on Wii-U after 1000/1000 back in the day it's definitely dropped down a few notches and Bayonetta 2 reigns over it. I will say though with Bayonetta 2 a lot of areas feel like pre-set circular arenas more so than most areas in the first game.
This is one of those cost cutting decisions that allows the game to exist in the first place, so I'm all for it.
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ShockingAlberto
Member
I like how it's impossible to just, like
"This wasn't as good as Bayonetta 1, but it's still really good."
Nope, it's terrible garbage that people only liked because it's exclusive and was made on a lunch break.
"This wasn't as good as Bayonetta 1, but it's still really good."
Nope, it's terrible garbage that people only liked because it's exclusive and was made on a lunch break.
I liked the two bayonetta games fine. But i'd really like it if Sony contracted Platinum to make another action game in similar style for them. We have one for Wii U, one for XB1...PS4's gotta get one eventually 
But yeah, Bayo 3 would be absolutely great. I originally wanted a Wii U specifically for 2. I just hope any potential sequel would do better sales wise than the second.
But yeah, Bayo 3 would be absolutely great. I originally wanted a Wii U specifically for 2. I just hope any potential sequel would do better sales wise than the second.
maybe it wasn't that expensive i guess
Nintendo has a good history of funding vanity projects and they might think that there's still a place for the brand in the future on other systems.
I've been very surprised that Nintendo never commissioned a 3DS game from Platinum because I remember Inaba and Kamiya both praising it in the past.
I've been very surprised that Nintendo never commissioned a 3DS game from Platinum because I remember Inaba and Kamiya both praising it in the past.
Anyone about to write "my only conclusion is..." should stop and ask themselves if the sentence could be more usefully completed with "...almost certainly wrong".
James Scott
Banned
People liked the first Bayonetta 2, although this one didn't add a whole lot new, it did refine a lot of the good stuff from the first while removing a lot of the bad stuff. It's also been awhile and there just aren't that many games in that genre of this quality for people to get tired of the game.
And come on with that last part.
Palette Swap
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Mauricio_Magus
Banned
God Yes, I would buy any system day one if it had Bayo 3.
OrbitalBeard
Member
You sure you actually played the first Bayonetta? Many of the cutscenes in the first game used static images as well.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Some people would hate me for saying this but I'd rather see them work on a brand new IP with fresh new ideas than Baynetta 3. I liked Bayonetta 2 but I felt like I was playing a tweaked version of the original game.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Scalebound.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
I only dabbled with the original Bayonetta back when it released, then played a good chunk of Bayonetta 2 before deciding to go back and play through the Wii U port of Bayonetta 1 first. I completely disagree that it's an unworthy successor. The mechanics feel much smoother and the pacing is much snappier, and it's not a subtle difference at all imo.
It took me some time to acclimate to the original after spending time with Bayonetta 2, and even having adjusted I still can't help but appreciate how much of an improvement the second game feels like. I've heard that some people prefer some of the particulars of the first game's combat system, but from the standpoint of someone not obsessed with the genre I find the second game to be a vastly more enjoyable experience.
It took me some time to acclimate to the original after spending time with Bayonetta 2, and even having adjusted I still can't help but appreciate how much of an improvement the second game feels like. I've heard that some people prefer some of the particulars of the first game's combat system, but from the standpoint of someone not obsessed with the genre I find the second game to be a vastly more enjoyable experience.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
I know Scalebound is in development but Platinum has more than one team you know. But what I meant was I have no interest in playing another Bayonetta and rather them use their talents in something new instead of making sequels to their old games.
James Scott
Banned
They made the Wonderful 101 before Bayonetta, and admittedly poor Legend of Korra game, and they are working on Scalebound so it's not like they are stuck working on Bayonetta games
OrbitalBeard
Member
Fair enough, but Bayonetta 2 is Platinum's first sequel. Almost everything they make is new. I don't have a problem with a sequel from them every now and then.
hurricanes
Member
I want the spin off. I actually like Jeanne more than Bayonetta...
See Project Beast
Werewolf Jones
Member
I don't actually know how many internal teams there are with PG* but I'd like a Bayonetta 3, I remember hearing some ideas they had potentially putting Jeanne as the more central character but I don't know if it was true or not. I'd like Kamiya to work on other games now though and just pitch the scenario for the series because as much as I love Kamiya I feel Hashimoto fits better for director of the series.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Anarchy Reigns was a sequel to MadWorld... sort of.
wouldn't Bayonetta 3 for WiiU be an inexpensive endeavor for Nintendo since the engine and a lot of the assets are already made ? they need all the games they can get and the 2016 year could be barren for WiiU with Nintendo moving game development to their next console, I dunno I see Bayonetta 3 making a lot of sense for Nintendo as a 2016 title
Holy Order Sol
Member
No you just have inferior taste
OrbitalBeard
Member
Not really. Jack was in the game but so was Bayonetta.
Fox Mulder
Member
I still need to pick up bayonetta 2, but it was the mercy of Nintendo that it even exists. A third game will have to similarly rely entirely on Nintendo.
Someone should just buy the damn IP of Sega.
Launch title for the next handheld in 2016. Believe!
Launch title for the next handheld in 2016. Believe!
That was my thought as well. Even with only 200-300k unit sales, that's 5+ million in revenue, maybe more.
I can't see Bayo 2 costing much to produce.
Even if it broke even or lost a bit, the exposure Nintendo got from the exclusive was valuable. The entire press talked about it. People who wouldn't give Nintendo the time of day bought Wii U's to play it.
Seems worth it.
Drilbit777
Member
Most likely Nintendo will probably fund the next game and try to make Bayonetta an established franchise for Wii U. Though its still up in the air whether or not it will appear on other consoles, 1 thing for sure is that Bayonetta 2 is never leaving Wii U even if its sequel is multiplatform.
MoogleWizard
Member
Lol. It's easy to tell who's actually played both games and who hasn't. ;p