So I guess you didn't meet these guys.
That speaks volumes.
Exactly, and that's the issue with Nintendo consoles (aside form handhelds), they're Nintendo machines for Nintendo franchises for Nintendo fans lacking peripheral appeal. This could change any time, but not with a stop gap HD solution like the Wii U.
We're expected to "suck it up" and buy a console that holds only one title we want and will look outdated by the end of 2013? That is a tall order. Bayonetta Wii is icing on the cake for Nintendo fans, but it's a diamond in the desert for others.
It depends upon what the meaning of the word "is" is.It wasn't a blatant lie. Why would I purposely lie like that the very next post unless I had short-term memory loss or something? It's called context and speaking from your own personal experience. "I found that"... not "It is"
took me an hour to read this thread so crazy
I love you guys, so much passion
It wasn't a blatant lie. Why would I purposely lie like that the very next post unless I had short-term memory loss or something? It's called context and speaking from your own personal experience. "I found that"... not "It is"
Why are people assuming Japan only?
It was shown at the North American conference. Explicitly. They made a big show of it. It was not just "It is part of a sizzle reel with other games."
It was "HEY GUYS HERE IS BAYONETTA 2 I AM REGGIE HERE IS MY LICENSE AND BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE IS A TEASER THAT SAYS BAYONETTA 2"
holy shit when i read all the bullshit in this thread :
the true is
the license belongs to Sega
This is Nintendo that will support the edition of the game in partnership with Sega
PG are developers
Sega save Colver Studio because capcom fired them
Sega partnership with Platiniums Games for 4 games, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Madworld, Infinite Space,
the probability :
temporary exclusive because the license belongs to Sega
No doubt you would lose money, maybe as much as $100 all in, but that's only $40 more than you were ever going to pay for Bayonetta 2. I don't think that's so much to someone who is impassioned enough by Bayonetta to be really upset about it's exclusivity.Keep in mind that this represents an additional cost. Two costs, in fact:
1) The difference between the initial sale price and resale price. If you buy it for 300 and sell it for 250, you're out 50 bucks.
2) The time spent selling it is also a cost. If I have to spend 2 hours total listing the system on Craig's List, finding a legitimate buyer I trust, then meeting him and making the transaction, those 2 hours stink and you'd probably have rather spent them doing something else. If you instead take the "easy" route and sell to Gamestop, you're going to lose a significantly larger chunk to resale value.
This thread is gold. Its not the Nintendo fans that are melting down today lolThis thread delivers.
the license belongs to Sega
This is Nintendo that will support the edition of the game in partnership with Sega
PG are developers
The biggest problem for Platinum's games is that they get no exposure, Sega doens't give a shit about them and give them no advertising. I'm hoping Nintendo won't squander such a deal and advertise the shit out of this game, otherwise they're stupider than I thought.
It wasn't a blatant lie. Why would I purposely lie like that the very next post unless I had short-term memory loss or something? It's called context and speaking from your own personal experience. "I found that"... not "It is"
Just imagine if Nintendo allows them to toy with and reference the company's history, like Platinum did with Sega in the first game...
Exactly, and that's the issue with Nintendo consoles (aside form handhelds), they're Nintendo machines for Nintendo franchises for Nintendo fans lacking peripheral appeal. This could change any time, but not with a stop gap HD solution like the Wii U.
We're expected to "suck it up" and buy a console that holds only one title we want and will look outdated by the end of 2013? That is a tall order. Bayonetta Wii is icing on the cake for Nintendo fans, but it's a diamond in the desert for others.
So Nintendo in fact DOES read GAF?
SEGA's logo is right there. Nintendo funding the game doesn't change that.
i don't get it.
people really think this is going multi? a nintendo published game going multi?
yes sure, and tomorrow the mt. edna is going to spill whipped cream.
Out of curiosity, how many games of this nature would you need to see before you find the system appealing?
While I've just gotten finished defending those upset about the platform choice because they don't want to have to buy a system they otherwise have no interest in, I do think there is some reason on the other side.
Specifically, as you note here, many people chide Nintendo systems for not having games they happen to personally be interested in. They are, as you say, Nintendo systems for Nintendo franchises. However, when these Nintendo systems finally do get games people are interested in, they become upset. It doesn't seem like Nintendo can win here, for you.
I wouldn't be surprised to see it on the Xbox and ps4 in the future, like the NG games that were published by Microsoft.
Whether a game is or is not a button masher is not subjective, context dependent, or anything of the sort. It's an objective property of the design. You can play a game by simply mashing buttons, but that doesn't make it a button masher. Using the term "button masher" in that way makes it devoid of meaning.
You could have just said "the combat system didn't grab me" but for some reason you pulled out a specific term and used it inappropriately. That's why people got upset. Some probably got too upset.
Well saidBayonetta 2 was real. SEGA stopped giving a shit, like they did with a lot of things, including Max Anarchy. Bayonetta 2 was dead, and I have no reason to disbelieve the people who told me this.
It would appear, as others have stated, Nintendo went shopping for IPs. Bayonetta 2 probably had X% of production complete, and with SEGA disinterested in finishing it felt they could pick it up for an affordable price in order to expand their Wii U portfolio into an area they pretty evidentially lack in.
In addition to this, Nintendo is likely cultivating a relationship with Platinum Games. The company's two next games are exclusive to Nintendo platforms. They're published and funded by Nintendo. Nintendo obviously sees the talent and potential at the studio, and where the studio can expand the company's portfolio. Two games, especially these two, is a nice start. If they succeed, I can guarantee we'll see further collaboration. If they bomb, then Nintendo will probably look elsewhere.
And if they bomb, Nintendo's licensing of Bayonetta 2 may be limited, and I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of a port to another system. But that's an if, and there are no guarantees.
As it stands, fact of the matter is if Nintendo didn't step in and pick up the Bayonetta 2 project nobody, nowhere would be getting it. Nobody wanted it. It was scrapped. Bayonetta 2 was dead. As a huge fan of the original, the way I look at it having the game is better than not, and I'm stoked Nintendo stepped in to salvage the project. It means I, a huge Bayonetta fan, get to play a sequel I otherwise would not.
Bitching about this collaboration that necessitates the entire game's existence seems so damn silly. We've all got our platform(s) of choice, but the simple fact of the matter is Bayonetta 2, as it was, was not going to appear anywhere else. If you don't like it, write SEGA some angry mail or something. Whining about it in a thread dedicated to the game's revival at the hands of an unlikely company is so petty and silly.
the license belongs to Sega
This is Nintendo that will support the edition of the game in partnership with Sega
PG are developers
This thread is gold. Its not the Nintendo fans that are melting down today lol
Don't hold your breath.
If they succeed, I can guarantee we'll see further collaboration. If they bomb, then Nintendo will probably look elsewhere.
Why are people assuming Japan only?
It was shown at the North American conference. Explicitly. They made a big show of it. It was not just "It is part of a sizzle reel with other games."
It was "HEY GUYS HERE IS BAYONETTA 2 I AM REGGIE HERE IS MY LICENSE AND BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE IS A TEASER THAT SAYS BAYONETTA 2"
You can turn it into one if you set it to easy auto~!
Out of curiosity, how many games of this nature would you need to see before you find the system appealing?
Why are people assuming Japan only?
It was shown at the North American conference. Explicitly. They made a big show of it. It was not just "It is part of a sizzle reel with other games."
It was "HEY GUYS HERE IS BAYONETTA 2 I AM REGGIE HERE IS MY LICENSE AND BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE IS A TEASER THAT SAYS BAYONETTA 2"
Not willing enough, then.
See NGS and Sigma 2.
They may not advertise it much in Japan; NCL is pretty bad about that (see how games like Soma Bringer got no advertisement at all). I do think, though, that NoA will advertise it at least as well as they did for DQ9, which was enough for it to sell very well.
Both NG games were still funded by Tecmo afaik.See NGS and Sigma 2.
I need at least three games to interest me greatly before I feel comfortable, and it's also why I haven't bought a Vita yet.
However, I did bitch out and buy a 3DS solely for the purpose of playing RE: Revelaitons. Worth every penny, but I'm not bending over for Nintendo twice. So Nintendo did 'win' once with me but that was after the price drop too.
Both NG games were still funded by Tecmo afaik.
nintendo likely owns the ip now
The biggest problem for Platinum's games is that they get no exposure, Sega doens't give a shit about them and give them no advertising. I'm hoping Nintendo won't squander such a deal and advertise the shit out of this game, otherwise they're stupider than I thought.