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News BBC: Poland proposes social media 'free speech' law

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Poland's government has proposed a new law to stop social media platforms deleting content or banning users who do not break Polish laws.
The proposed bill would see social networks fined up to 50 million zloty (£9.8m, $13.4m) for failing to restore deleted posts or accounts.
Justice Minister Zbigniew Ziobro announced the "freedom of speech protection" bill on Friday.

The law would also establish a "freedom of speech council".
The council would be able to order social networks such as Facebook or Twitter to restore deleted content, or unblock a user's account following a review, Mr Ziobro said.

Social media users in Poland who had been blocked or had content deleted would be able to complain directly to the platform, which would have to respond within 24 hours.
If a social media company refused to comply with an order, the council would be able to issue a fine of between 50,000 and 50 million zloty.

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And how would a law like this only effect major social media companies?

What about forums?

They are social media platforms.

Nickelodeon.com forums has to allow rape fantasies because they are legal?

What in the world are people actually proposing?
 
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I want Texas to do the same thing. If enough Red states passed laws like this it would cause change. There is no need for a national law.

Honestly I want Texas to outright ban facebook, twitter, and other social media sites in the state. Cut the cancer out completely. I'd give up posting on gaf to kill social media. I don't expect EviLore EviLore to agree with this position though... you know, NeoGAF being a Texas business and all (or at least he lives in Texas).
 
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It's Jeff

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I agree with this. I hope it passes into law and finds its way to the States. In my ideal world, employers would be banned from viewing the social media content of their employees. If they wish to terminate an employee, it must be based on job performance and nothing else.

It's absurd that we have so many avenues of expression but so many are bullied into holding their tongues.
 

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By the sound of it, as long as it's not heinous stuff like killings, snuff, or child porn anything goes.

So even content moderated out like calling someone an asshole (not illegal, but possibly deleted by mods if flagged) will be forever kept?

lol
 

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How long has the Polish government been the way they are now?

Also what's the split look like in the Polish population as far as left-wing / right-wing views?
 
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Well it's a bit ironic to make a freedom of speech law trying to stop people from being banned from Twitter that might get your entire country banned from twitter lol
Then it will give alternatives a chance to flourish. They clearly are a monopoly that need sorting out.
 
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A very active/vocal minority can make these platforms a living hell to go on if not moderated. We learned this 25 fucking years ago in our pre teens when having to ban a single nazi troll from an AOL chat room, and these dumb fuck politicians can't figure it out at age 60.
 
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Well it's a bit ironic to make a freedom of speech law trying to stop people from being banned from Twitter that might get your entire country banned from twitter lol
I'm not sure what your investment in Twitter is, but since our exchange yesterday where you repeatedly handwaved or ignored their demonstrably worse behaviour from them than from their competitors, I've seen you cheerlead for them in multiple threads.

Your statement above shows that you don't appear to understand that a social media platform is not a higher power than an entire country. This shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp.
 
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I'm not sure what your investment in Twitter is, but since our exchange yesterday where you repeatedly handwaved or ignored their demonstrably worse behaviour from them than from their competitors, I've seen you cheerlead for them in multiple threads.

Your statement above shows that you don't appear to understand that a social media platform is not a higher power than an entire country. This shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp.
Not even remotely true.

I'm all for thinking of ways to regulate social media companies, potentially break them up, etc. I've talked about that here on this forum.

What I've noticed about you is that you are pointless to have conversations with.

Here you are not responding to my post, but instead echoing some false sentiment about me.
 
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Well it's a bit ironic to make a freedom of speech law trying to stop people from being banned from Twitter that might get your entire country banned from twitter lol
There is actual science showing that people's lives without social media is better, happier, and more productive...
 

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Not even remotely true.

I'm all for thinking of ways to regulate social media companies, potentially break them up, etc. I've talked about that here on this forum.

What I've noticed about you is that you are pointless to have conversations with.

Here you are not responding to my post, but instead echoing some false sentiment about me.

Seems true from the perspective of a person reading your posts.

I dont really give a shit one way or another, but you come off has high on the milk from twitters tit.
 
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What I've noticed about you is that you are pointless to have conversations with.
Your posts lack evidence that others besides me have called you out on. [Edit: At least one of these instances have now had a degree of evidence posted]

My point stands with regards to your unsolicited elevating of a social media platform above an entire country.

Here you are not responding to my post
A curious accusation given that I responded to your post, quoted it, and referenced it's content directly.


After-the-fact protests that lack any evidence, cushioned with petulance and hollow accusation are not a convincing argument at all. Sorry.
 
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20 years ago who’d have thought we’d see European countries telling American leftists about the need for free speech? Regardless, it’s good to see some sense remains in the world, even if it isn’t in America.
 
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20 years ago who’d have thought we’d see European countries telling American leftists about the need for free speech? Regardless, it’s good to see some sense remains in the world, even if it isn’t in America.
True, and also who'd have thought liberals would have to explain the limits of the first amendment to republicans?
 
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Twitter will have to agree to Poland's terms of service. Or be de-countried.
That’s up to Poland and Twitter. Doesn’t change the fact just because you have freedom of speech to shout, doesn’t mean platforms have to host your free speech.
 
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I look forward to more laws like this. These tech companies have become too vital to the flow of information. They are a commodity and must be regulated as such.
 
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That’s up to Poland and Twitter. Doesn’t change the fact just because you have freedom of speech to shout, doesn’t mean platforms have to host your free speech.
Exactly. When Poland actions this law in, Twitter must comply. The state holds primacy over the execution of laws within its border, not Silicon Valley.
 
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godhandiscen

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Hey, now all the racist can start a server in Poland now. Good for them.
You think racists are the only ones protecting freedom of speech? If it wasn’t for freedom of speech minorities would still be slaves, I would have never made it to America, nepotism would run rampant, etc etc.

Did you get paid to post that shit or did you just make it to the age required to create a NeoGAF account without a basic concept of the important of freedom of speech?