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BBC: US Man gets COVID for second time, recovers fully

cormack12

Gold Member
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54512034

A man in the United States has caught Covid twice, with the second infection becoming far more dangerous than the first, doctors report. The 25-year-old needed hospital treatment after his lungs could not get enough oxygen into his body.

Reinfections remain rare and he has now recovered. So far, reinfection seems to be rare - there have been only a few examples out of more than 37 million confirmed cases.

It is still unclear why the Nevada patient become more severely ill the second time. One idea is he may have been exposed to a bigger initial dose of the virus.

What happened when
  • 25 March - First wave of symptoms, including sore throat, cough, headache, nausea and diarrhoea
  • 18 April - He tests positive for the first time
  • 27 April - Initial symptoms fully resolve
  • 9 and 26 May - He tests negative for the virus on two occasions
  • 28 May - He develops symptoms again, this time including fever, headache, dizziness, cough, nausea and diarrhoea
  • 5 June - He tests positive for the second time, and is hypoxic (low blood oxygen) with shortness of breath

"Our findings signal that a previous infection may not necessarily protect against future infection," said Dr Mark Pandori, from the University of Nevada. "The possibility of reinfections could have significant implications for our understanding of Covid-19 immunity."

He said even people who have recovered should continue to follow guidelines around social distancing, face masks and hand washing. Scientists are still grappling with the thorny issue of coronavirus and immunity.
 
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DonMigs85

Member
I know a lot of people who only got a mild cough and lost their sense of smell and taste. I wonder if they can get hit harder the second time
 

quickwhips

Member
Maybe he first case was bullshit and he had a cold and the second was legit? Weren't the first test not accurate?
 

Sakura

Member
Probably a problem with the testing. Doubt he just happened to got the virus again immediately after finishing testing negative.
That being said, I'm sure people will get reinfected every year, just like influenza and other coronaviruses.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
His first symptoms could have been regular flu, and the test mistook it for Covid.

Also, we all know this article came out because of Trump testing negative. It's so transparent :messenger_grinning_squinting:

Not really, this is a significant finding. Not everyone is a partisan tool
 
Not really, this is a significant finding. Not everyone is a partisan tool
Oh? It’s significant? Why? One guy or 10 people or 1,000 people out of literally tens of millions of supposed cases apparently had a reinfection. This is a big deal? I guess maybe. If it can be applied to other people.

However there are any number of reasons why something like this could happen. One is obviously that he got reinfected like the article is saying. Another is the initial infection was a false positive, which if you’re an NFL fan, you’ll see isn’t so rare as to be implausible. Another is that for whatever reason, he initial infection didn’t provide immunity. That could be something specific to him or it could have more broad implications. We don’t know.

Regardless, this is one person. Out of millions. Even 1,000 out of millions is not statistically “significant” until we have more information.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Oh? It’s significant? Why? One guy or 10 people or 1,000 people out of literally tens of millions of supposed cases apparently had a reinfection. This is a big deal? I guess maybe. If it can be applied to other people.

However there are any number of reasons why something like this could happen. One is obviously that he got reinfected like the article is saying. Another is the initial infection was a false positive, which if you’re an NFL fan, you’ll see isn’t so rare as to be implausible. Another is that for whatever reason, he initial infection didn’t provide immunity. That could be something specific to him or it could have more broad implications. We don’t know.

Regardless, this is one person. Out of millions. Even 1,000 out of millions is not statistically “significant” until we have more information.

Jesus you guys that are entrenched in US politics are exhausting. Like I said not everyone is a partisan tool so please curb your projection. Yes it is a significant finding, maybe not for your fruitless crusade against the lockdowns or mask wearing or wherever you think you are fighting your political holy war, but it is a significant finding and in terms of our understanding how the virus operates and spreads. No it does not matter how many cases are like, only that it is possible - Nobody is using this case study to try to impose lockdowns or strip your rights or fear monger. Be narrow minded elsewhere, but not with me.

These are preliminary findings, and just that.
 
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Jesus you guys that are entrenched in US politics are exhausting. Like I said not everyone is a partisan tool so please curb your projection. Yes it is a significant finding, maybe not for your fruitless crusade against the lockdowns or mask wearing or wherever you think you are fighting your political holy war, but it is a significant finding and in terms of our understanding how the virus operates and spreads. No it does not matter how many cases are like, only that it is possible - Nobody is using this case study to try to impose lockdowns or strip your rights or fear monger. Be narrow minded elsewhere, but not with me.

These are preliminary findings, and just that.
That’s weird. You accuse me of projecting and yet I never mentioned politics at all. Or masks. Or lockdowns.

Are you certain you know what projection actually means? Because your post was textbook.
 
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Jesus you guys that are entrenched in US politics are exhausting. Like I said not everyone is a partisan tool so please curb your projection. Yes it is a significant finding, maybe not for your fruitless crusade against the lockdowns or mask wearing or wherever you think you are fighting your political holy war, but it is a significant finding and in terms of our understanding how the virus operates and spreads. No it does not matter how many cases are like, only that it is possible - Nobody is using this case study to try to impose lockdowns or strip your rights or fear monger. Be narrow minded elsewhere, but not with me.

These are preliminary findings, and just that.

There is no such thing as perfect immunity across a previously infected population for any disease. I'm not even a doctor and I know that. The most important data is how often reinfection happens.
 
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Raven117

Member
Pure fear porn. Trying to keep a muzzle on people where there are starting to be millions of people who have recovered. They just don't want some people wearing masks and others not wearing masks.

Here are the actual statistics.

While still being studied, it absolutely looks like most people will have an immunity. Likely over 3 months. If not, we would have more reinfections by now.
 
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