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Bethesda Removed Denuvo From The Evil Within 2 Before The Release
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Dusk Golem
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Chobel
Member
Holy shit! The game is not even out lol
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Don't they lose money for doing so, or get paid once it's cracked?
killatopak
Gold Member
good shit.
Rellik
Member
InsaneTiger
Member
OP knows that Denuvo is done for sure?
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Good if true.
We won. (With the help of crackers obviously, good job.)
We won. (With the help of crackers obviously, good job.)
Frozenprince
Banned
_Aaron_
Member
Not yet. Other publishers are still using Denuvo. And most games haven't removed it despite them being cracked.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Obvious that it is already cracked if it didn´t use denuvo.
Says so in the Codex release that it didn´t ship with it.
We did it.
Says so in the Codex release that it didn´t ship with it.
We did it.
Kudo
Member
We lost, as far as I know Denuvo is one of the most unintrusive DRMs so I don't quite understand the hate against it.
Publishers just got another excuse to start rootkitting our games again, we'll see how it goes, but I really don't see the "DRM Free Future" playing out so well some people like to imagine.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
It's going to sell roughly 12 copies so I guess they decided there was no point annoying their hardcore fans.
Grim Patron
Member
Agree.
TheTylerRob
Member
Please buy this game
CuNi
Member
That's what happens once there is no new DRM for ages and crackers take it for granted to get the job easily done. Once a good DRM gets released again, they notice their skills arent that up 2 date as they thought they would be.
There was definitely a point where it seemed like Denuvo was winning. I remember early on, Denuvo games weren't getting cracked for months if at all.
IIRC there was a turning point about a year ago and then the floodgates opened.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
No Denuvo just raised my intent to buy this game by at least 50%.
But I gotta play the first game first. Still I'm really looking forward to this one.
But I gotta play the first game first. Still I'm really looking forward to this one.
It's out on Australia, New Zealand etc.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Why would you contract such company without a 'no cure no pay' clause in the first place?
Lilalaunebaer
Member
And that will be defeated too.
We KNOW DRM doesn´t work. It´s just bulletpoint shareholders can jerk off to.
Frozenprince
Banned
And I'm pretty sure Huber will buy 11 of those 12 copies.
CecilRousso
Member
Have you really tried understanding it? Because it's explained in every thread we have about the subject.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Good news for Wolfenstein II then.
Kudo
Member
I've tried, but haven't really seen anyone giving any facts other than the kind of sketchy online check but even that was apparently left for the publishers to decide?
The whole SSD and performance stuff was made up as from what I see there isn't noticeable performance upgrade in games after removing Denuvo.
So it sometimes leaves me pondering where does the hate come from, sure I don't like DRM either but I'd rather have something as unintrusive as Denuvo than another Starforce or something of that sort. Maybe it's a YMMV thing, I never had any issue with Denuvo but I might have just gotten lucky with it.
The least intrusive method is selling it at Steam, where pirates can only moan because their profile shows they don't own the game but they want software support?
Kudo
Member
So your solution is releasing broken games then patching them later and hoping pirates buy the game for easier patching?
Not really feeling it.. Pointing out that they don't even "own" the game at Steam means nothing, they got the game for free and if it isn't completely broken, I'm pretty sure they'll be having a good time with it, with or without random people judging them.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Awesome, wasn't going to buy the game day one but now I am. Please do the same for Dishonored 2/Prey. Those games have been bypassed for like 9 months now.
CecilRousso
Member
What do you mean by "sketchy" online check there? It's there, Denuvo need to authorize your purchase for you to get access to it, and your continued access to the game is depedent on them keeping their servers online.
It doesn't really matter "if it's left up to the devs to decide it", if all games with Denuvo use it.
That, and the effect of GOG releases not being an option at all for Denuvo games, are my main concerns with it. Those are two facts about Denuvo that directly affects me as a paying customer. It's two thing that you might not agree matter, but they should be pretty simple to understand at least, as an explanation as to why we don't like it.
Here's a handy summary post if you need it as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=247304620#post247304620
Don't buy into the "it could be worse" argument at all. If you don't accept the publishers packaging their product this bad, they might package even worse? Well, up yours then, dear publishers and devs with that mentality. I don't have to chose between two bad options, when other companies are selling their games as I want it.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Bring back securom, that used to be a bitch back in the days.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Unfortunately the misinformation about SSDs and performance (RiME was a poor implementation) overshadowed the legitimate reasons to hate Denuvo.... Which is a shame because there's more than enough to condemn it with that has a basis in reality.
The moment Denuvo forgets to pay their AWS bill, your authentication tickets will be on a timer. 30 days, then these legitimate purchases will become unplayable. That's assuming you launched it recently too. If you haven't, you won't have an authentication ticket and you're screwed. That's the nefarious thing about Denuvo. Yeah, it's the most unintrusive DRM ever created, but every game that includes it is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off (which is a shame because the overwhelming majority of titles have been cracked for years meaning it's literally useless to the publisher at this point).
It's funny you mention SecuROM, because the people behind Denuvo were behind that too (and look at how long it was supported, six years).
The moment Denuvo forgets to pay their AWS bill, your authentication tickets will be on a timer. 30 days, then these legitimate purchases will become unplayable. That's assuming you launched it recently too. If you haven't, you won't have an authentication ticket and you're screwed. That's the nefarious thing about Denuvo. Yeah, it's the most unintrusive DRM ever created, but every game that includes it is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off (which is a shame because the overwhelming majority of titles have been cracked for years meaning it's literally useless to the publisher at this point).
It's funny you mention SecuROM, because the people behind Denuvo were behind that too (and look at how long it was supported, six years).