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Big Tech Is Going to Decide What You Can See, digital civil war

Raven117

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Its time Congress revokes Section 230 of the Communications Act or starts saying that editing or cancelling content violates said act.

Communications has changed, it is not a luxury, its a utility. Time to start acting like it. Its the only way forward or we are stuck with whatever reality they want to show us.

The issue is that there could be more censorship if we repeal 230, but it will make room for more free speech oriented platforms.
 
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ExpandKong

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Its time Congress revokes Section 230 of the Communications Act or starts saying that editing or cancelling content violates said act.

Communications has changed, it is not a luxury, its a utility. Time to start acting like it. Its the only way forward or we are stuck with whatever reality they want to show us.
If Trump wins (and I do believe in a fair election he would win), he needs to push hard for this. This kind of manipulation has disastrous potential, it cannot stand.
 

LordCBH

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Its time Congress revokes Section 230 of the Communications Act or starts saying that editing or cancelling content violates said act.

Communications has changed, it is not a luxury, its a utility. Time to start acting like it. Its the only way forward or we are stuck with whatever reality they want to show us.
AMEN TO THAT. Twitter and Facebook aren’t upholding their end of the bargain there.
 
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Corporations can only "right side of history" for so long. Eventually the narrative blows against you.

Wait till everything changes and this precedent on free speech (especially on the press) bites the new left in the ass.

They brought this in.

Kinda hard to have a socialist utopia when you are empowering multinational corporations to do anything they want.
 
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Zefah

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What issues did Parler have?
The app is garbage. The way images and content pop out is vomit-inducing, making for a very unpleasant scrolling experience. Interface elements overlap and kind of break frequently. Embedded video behavior is very inconsistent. There's poor/no multi-lingual support (keyboards for other languages are largely broken) so it's basically just an American service right now.

Worst of all, there are no algorithms to surface content (or they are really bad) and no "trending" feature. The same hashtags when I signed up in June are being featured by the service today.

Basically zero activity for anything that isn't #TrumpTrain or #Twexit.

It just kind of feels like a scam by someone trying to take advantage of justified right-wing/conservative frustration with Twitter and social media, but without the wherewith-all or engineering prowess to make a competitive or even competent service.
 
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Raven117

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If Trump wins (and I do believe in a fair election he would win), he needs to push hard for this. This kind of manipulation has disastrous potential, it cannot stand.
AMEN TO THAT. Twitter and Facebook aren’t upholding their end of the bargain there.
Its time our government starts enforcing rules that protect its citizens. We need to be protected from Big Tech. Communications Act Section 230, Sherman Anti-Trust. Our capitalist society has benefited from this, its time to prune the trees or competition will not be able to flourish.

On a side note, I do think this was the Obama adminstration's biggest failure. They had a chance to take it to banks, tech, etc., but instead just went right along with them...making it that much further. But I digress.
 

diffusionx

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As if the government didn't create them in the first place.
I remember reading how internet advertising was collapsing, spending was way down because companies don't get the value of it, it's in the basement... yet somehow Google which supposedly gets 90% of its revenue from internet advertising is stronger than ever. Same with Facebook. Some funny business.

Anyway the plan since 2017 was to wipe Donald Trump supporters off the internet and focus on pro-Empire propaganda. They used a few Russia FB ad buys as a convenient excuse but it was never about that or foreign influence (which was always ridiculous since Clinton was clearly selling access to foreign governments under the CGI organization).

Its time our government starts enforcing rules that protect its citizens. We need to be protected from Big Tech. Communications Act Section 230, Sherman Anti-Trust. Our capitalist society has benefited from this, its time to prune the trees or competition will not be able to flourish.

On a side note, I do think this was the Obama adminstration's biggest failure. They had a chance to take it to banks, tech, etc., but instead just went right along with them...making it that much further. But I digress.
Yea, I am sure that was just an honest mistake from Obama, not that he was bought and paid for by big banks and big tech.
 
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Whataborman

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Where the fuck are other so called "journalists" to come call this shit out? Where you at NYT, CNN, NBC, ABC, etc you fucking partisan hacks?
They are willing to sacrifice whatever journalistic integrity they have left to hurt Trump.

If Twitter were doing something that hurt Biden there would be 10,000 "Twitter is bad" stories posted by now.
 

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They are willing to sacrifice whatever journalistic integrity they have left to hurt Trump.

If Twitter were doing something that hurt Biden there would be 10,000 "Twitter is bad" stories posted by now.
To go along with your second point, here's a timely example of the zealots getting mad at an outlet for "hurting Biden":

 

Turnt

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The app is garbage. The way images and content pop out is vomit-inducing, making for a very unpleasant scrolling experience. Interface elements overlap and kind of break frequently. Embedded video behavior is very inconsistent. There's poor/no multi-lingual support (keyboards for other languages are basically broken) so it's basically just an American service right now.

Worst of all, there's no algorithms to surface content (or they are really bad) or "trending" feature. The same hashtags when I signed up in June are being featured by the service today.

Basically zero activity for anything that isn't #TrumpTrain or #Twexit.

It just kind of feels like a scam by someone trying to take advantage of justified right-wing/conservative frustration with Twitter and social media, but without the wherewith-all or engineering prowess to make a competitive service.
Pity. The big social media platforms need more challengers to reduce the amount of power they have and give people more options.
 

Raven117

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Yea, I am sure that was just an honest mistake from Obama, not that he was bought and paid for by big banks and big tech.
Yup, could say the same about Trump, but "taking it to the corporations" is more of a Democrat thing. I wish Trump would do it.
 

diffusionx

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Yup, could say the same about Trump, but "taking it to the corporations" is more of a Democrat thing. I wish Trump would do it.
Except... it’s obviously not a Democratic thing.

I mean maybe that was true in 1980, but Dems have been a party of big corporations for a long time. Look at what literally every big company said during the George Floyd Memorial Riots for evidence.
 

Raven117

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Except... it’s obviously not a Democratic thing.

I mean maybe that was true in 1980, but Dems have been a party of big corporations for a long time. Look at what literally every big company said during the George Floyd Memorial Riots for evidence.
I know. But they always say that.
 

LordCBH

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Did Twitter flag any of the obvious Russia bullshit as "unsafe", even a single article or post? What about the story from Atlantic about Trump smearing dead soldiers? That had not a single on the record quote.
but trump isn’t people. Biden is pure American people who’s on theright side of history....or something.
 

diffusionx

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I think it's an obvious strategy on the part of these tech companies to scorch the earth with stuff like this, ignore GOP complaints (because after all the mainstream GOP is a bunch of cucks, most of whom hate Trump anyway), make sure Biden wins, then get paid back 1000000x over in the Harris administration.
 
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Bring back real paper newspapers so news simply can't be blocked by biased censors like Twitter.
 
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Zefah

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I think it's an obvious strategy on the part of these tech companies to scorch the earth with stuff like this, ignore GOP complaints (because after all the mainstream GOP is a bunch of cucks, most of whom hate Trump anyway), make sure Biden wins, then get paid back 1000000x over in the Harris administration.
A bit of a gamble, but could have huge payoff if it goes their way.
 

diffusionx

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A bit of a gamble, but could have huge payoff if it goes their way.
Even if Trump wins, ~49.5% of the elected people in DC and about 90% of the bureaucracy supports them anyway.

They've been doing this shit for years, all their censorship/moderation policies go only one way, everyone knows it, it's a complete joke but they have faced no repercussions for it.
 
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