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BioWare: DAI will not be a "template" for Mass Effect/non-DA games, ME next-gen only
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Hmm yes and no. I liked the idea of driving around on the moon and seeing earth in the sky, even though there was never anything interesting to do. But playing DAI, I realized what I liked so much about ME2 and ME3 is that every mission had weight and impetus. A distress signal--go there now, you might be just in time to save them! Conversely, DAI's exploration (and in hindsight ME's sidequests) was so leisurely and open ended that nothing felt important at all. You can go there, or not, in your own time, or not, doesn't matter really.
Yep. I personally couldn't stand Inquisition. I want this to be something different.
Seems like the Bioware response is confused about what people mean by the DA:I "template". No one is saying that the next Mass Effect is going to have horses in space. The concern is the de-emphasis on roleplaying/narrative in favor of a more MMO-like structure full of busywork and copy/paste quests from one area to the next.
Hearing that the Mako is coming back just makes me think that it wont just be a fun way to traverse and explore a planet. Instead, I'll be using it to scan 20 minerals on one planet, then 15 on the next, and 30 on another.
Hearing that the Mako is coming back just makes me think that it wont just be a fun way to traverse and explore a planet. Instead, I'll be using it to scan 20 minerals on one planet, then 15 on the next, and 30 on another.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Hnnnngh, the wait for this is brutal. E3 and more information can't come fast enough.
ShooterMcGavin
Member
DA: I was the best game of last year, but this is still good news.
Gotta respect the two series' differences.
Gotta respect the two series' differences.
I'm glad to read this. Mass Effect and Dragon Age have always been pretty different franchises. I enjoyed Inquisition, but many parts of the game were just a chore. I'm interested to see where Bioware takes the exploration they've promised with the next Mass Effect. I'm just hoping they make more story driven side quests, the fetch quests in ME3 were just tedious.
Yeah, I hope they fully understand the faults people have with DAI because I don't think they understood the problems they had with 2.
veloxStrix
Banned
This is a good thing, since people had such a hard-on for the side quests in DA:I.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Hoping for the best but I think it was a mistake to bring the Mako back instead of doing an improved Hammerhead. Strap on a few extra inches of armor plating and make its weapons interesting to use and it's the perfect Mass Effect vehicle.
prag16
Banned
Sounds good. Still I hope they don't go too open world with it. Not every damn game has to be "open world".
The level of openness in the existing trilogy is fine. These comments are promising though. Sounds like they're trying to avoid having a vast but boring world, which DAI fell victim to in some ways.
The level of openness in the existing trilogy is fine. These comments are promising though. Sounds like they're trying to avoid having a vast but boring world, which DAI fell victim to in some ways.
BRocknRolla
Member
As someone who found DA:I to be serviceable, but far from the glory days of DA:O and ME2, this makes me happy to hear... But it's still hard to get hopeful about Bioware these days.
shinobi602
Member
The new Mako looks like it handles very well from the prototype footage, speedy and maneuvarable, nothing like the previous version.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I've seen the video, it's just that the Hammerhead was awesome. Really fast, maneuverable, felt like it was right at home in the Mass Effect universe (Saren riding hoverboard, floating drones, floating hanar, floating gunships etc). I see no advantages of the Mako, gameplay wise. Firewalker DLC was crappy but Overlord used it well. Just need some fun weapons and give it more hit points (that thing was armored with wet tissue paper in ME2).
BouncyFrag
Member
Next-gen only was all I needed to hear.
EmptySpace
Banned
it is going to take a lot for me to be excited for me4. me3 left such a bad taste that i actually enjoyed the mp way more than the sp.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
What footage? Link please
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Does the new Mako even have a cannon on it?
I vastly prefer the ME-games over the DA-franchise, this is great news. Just give a me a great mix of main+ character stories with as little fluff as possible, & I probably will end up being more than happy. And if they will lead a possible marketing campaign with "30 hours" instead of "200 hours", I'm totally fine with that.
In theory DA:I sounded great. In practice it entertained me for quite a while. But after that? It feels overstuffed, drowning out all possibly memorable moments. The latter one being the biggest mistake a BioWare game, built on great moments, could make in my opinion.
In theory DA:I sounded great. In practice it entertained me for quite a while. But after that? It feels overstuffed, drowning out all possibly memorable moments. The latter one being the biggest mistake a BioWare game, built on great moments, could make in my opinion.
shinobi602
Member
http://youtu.be/00YqU7CT3XQ?t=5m42s
No, it's meant to be a quick-deploy exploratory vehicle. Customization is also being toyed around with.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Customization would be cool. You were originally supposed to be able to customize the Mako in ME1, but they scrapped that. If you talk to the mechanic on Noveria you can see reference to this.
Got damn man I forgot how good the ME music is.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
good
i agree
dapperbandit
Banned
Thank god.
The engine they've used for DAI and other games is really showing it's age.
Its good that Bioware are aware of the particular facets that make up a franchise like Mass Effect's identity. They should aim to keep their franchises distinct.
The engine they've used for DAI and other games is really showing it's age.
Its good that Bioware are aware of the particular facets that make up a franchise like Mass Effect's identity. They should aim to keep their franchises distinct.
Yeah those were the glory days of Bioware alright...
they used frostbite for DAI and they're using it for ME4.
EatChildren
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Despite being a game I should have hated due to the way it was designed and similarities with other franchises that I dislike for those reasons, I really enjoyed much of Inquisition and found it an easy game to relax into and just keep playing. Tons and tons of room for improvement but I can't pretend I didn't like it.
Not that it matters in the context of this. I'll probably buy Mass Effect 4 no matter how it ends up. Maybe.
Not that it matters in the context of this. I'll probably buy Mass Effect 4 no matter how it ends up. Maybe.
shinobi602
Member
Where did Aaryn mention anything about horses in space? Have no idea what made you write that lol. He is clearly talking about the core design of the game.
Do developers not learn from the past many times? They've been clear on what was wrong with the Mako in the past. It looks very fun to use at least in the prototype footage.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I think he's making a DA: I reference
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Music to my ears, especially the part about being current-Gen only.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Well shit, why couldn't BioWare have kept Mass Effect out of Dragon Age in the first place then if they're all about keeping their properties feel distinct? Post Origins, DA has felt progressively more and more like ME and less like the spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate DA was originally supposed to be.
That Gif was not what driving the Mako was like at all. Driving the Mako was a freaking chore. I was glad they got rid of it.
If they are bringing it back, then I hope they have improved it, because the Mako in ME1 would be like driving a UPS truck in a Need for Speed game.
GlamFM
Banned
What what what?!!?!?
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Basileus777
Member
Bringing back the Mako is still really worrying. The last thing I want from Mass Effect is open world vehicle segments enhanced with collectables.
Ovek
7Member7
I dunno I thought the new Mass Effect game would have suited the DAI style more than DAI did. Exploring new planets etc would give you more scope for small encounters and the general fetch stuff of DAI, a bit like ME1 with more to do.
Saying that I'm glad its going to be its own game, wonder if its going to be shown off at GDC and E3 this year?
Saying that I'm glad its going to be its own game, wonder if its going to be shown off at GDC and E3 this year?
BouncyFrag
Member
I'm hoping everyone's favorite druffalo gets a cameo in ME4. We've had a Space Hamster so why not a Space Druffalo? That mako with him attached to the front like a battering ram would be unstoppable!