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Black: GameSpot Review
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HomerSimpson-Man said:
Awesome, I got ambushed in scene identical to
The Rock
I had to hide behind pillars being reduced to rubble, I couldnt see shit behind all the dust so I just unloaded into the clouds, ran out of amo and was taken out.
Funky Papa said:
Oh, damn. How many levels are there?
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Gek54 said:
Okay, that sounds badass. I can't wait to relive a classic movie moment.
What ending? Black is a trilogy. Even if you didnt know it was a trilogy, it's freakin EA for chrissakes. You think they won't make sequels on this? I bet the sequel is already being worked on right now
Dark ops difficulty is such a disgrace. The only thing difficult about it is completing objectives. You know your game is fucked when you have to make it difficult by making it a collect-a-thon
Dark ops difficulty is such a disgrace. The only thing difficult about it is completing objectives. You know your game is fucked when you have to make it difficult by making it a collect-a-thon
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I will say, that it's hard for me to take review scores and opinions of FPS games seriously considering the industry's current relationship to this genre. Reviewers seem to frequently be on all weird kinds of crack.
Look at CoD2 360 having it's crap Live features downplayed or ignored by almost everyone.
Look at Halo 2 offering up a terrible campaign and being so shoddy in many ways while getting "OMG, BEST GAME EVAR" scores -just- because it took Halo 1 lan party online, even while it introduced new issues and balance problems as a free bonus.
Look at CoD2 360 having it's crap Live features downplayed or ignored by almost everyone.
Look at Halo 2 offering up a terrible campaign and being so shoddy in many ways while getting "OMG, BEST GAME EVAR" scores -just- because it took Halo 1 lan party online, even while it introduced new issues and balance problems as a free bonus.
BastardSamurai
Member
Gek54 said:
There're 9 levels, and you just described level 5.
Kaijima said:
look at what gamespot gave halo 2.
9.4
nuff said.
halo 2 received a 9.4, which is just absurd.
some of you need to form an opinion off your own experience with the game.
i haven't been able to find a copy, but my friends who actually purchased the game have returned nothing but effusively positive impressions.
i don't trust these hacks...er, reviewers.
Kabuki Waq
Member
so how is the frame rate Gek? you get the ps2 version?
Yeah,really absurdphonte said:
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/562116.asp?q=halo 2
Even less then what it's average is on gamerankings. Fuck moron
alumn said:
which means a lot of people fell for the hype.
without naming names, the same could be said for any number of franchises this gen.
anyway, you missed the point.
halo 2, to me, is average -- at best.
yet it scored a 9.4 from gamespot, which tells ME that their opinion of entries in this genre holds no weight.
it's about YOUR experience with the game.
Gek clearly loves this game, which means you just might, too.
don't base your opinion of the game off some hack's review.
Scottlarock
Banned
it also shows most people thought the game was that good.phonte said:
phonte, you have never saw a game review and said that game must suck?
and black had alot of hype too.
phonte said:
Does not compute.
EDIT: But to be serious what FPS's do you like? You mentioned COR and Deus Ex which I also like but are about as far away from black as is humanly possibly. And you didn't like Deus EX invisible War. Okay we are still in agreement. You dislike Halo a lot more than I do but then I'm not the biggest Halo guy outside of the multi-player portion of it.
If I were to pick the closest companion game to Black conceptually, I would have to go with Doom 3. If you liked that then I could see you liking Black or the same crowd being attracted to either game. I don't mean that as an insult either. I didn't like Doom 3 but of course there were some people who did because of the graphics and such. I won't argue against any aspect of the graphics or sound proper. It's all the other stuff that is a problem for me. What is exciting to you about Black after what you've read in reviews or user impressions? I'm actually asking a serious question here? What are you looking for in this game? I'm curious to see since I would be suprised if you loved COR that you could find black acceptable (I know you haven't played Black yet. Just making the point). Not that liking one is mutually exclusive to the other. Just that they provide pretty much a terrfic basis of comparison like I mentioned earlier.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Er yeah, I'm going to play for myself to decide cause GAF version of "average and sucky" could mean anything from 7.0-8.0 too.
kaching said:
And he shoudn't. I respect all developers. I am one.
But the last thing that works as a developer is posting on forums or battling the forum people on your game whether I disagree with their opinion or not. It just never works. After pumping some much time and effort into something it's impossible to be objective about it. You work hard on a game. You put it out there. And then people will like or dislike it. You really have no control over that latter part.
gigamex said:Does not compute.
EDIT: But to be serious what FPS's do you like? You mentioned COR and Deus Ex which I also like but are about as far away from black as is humanly possibly. And you didn't like Deus EX invisible War. Okay we are still in agreement. You dislike Halo a lot more than I do but then I'm not the biggest Halo guy outside of the multi-player portion of it.
If I were to pick the closest companion game to Black conceptually, I would have to go with Doom 3. If you liked that then I could see you liking Black or the same crowd being attracted to either game. I don't mean that as an insult either. I didn't like Doom 3 but of course there were some people who did because of the graphics and such. I won't argue against any aspect of the graphics or sound proper. It's all the other stuff that is a problem for me. What is exciting to you about Black after what you've read in reviews or user impressions? I'm actually asking a serious question here? What are you looking for in this game? I'm curious to see since I would be suprised if you loved COR that you could find black acceptable (I know you haven't played Black yet. Just making the point). Not that liking one is mutually exclusive to the other. Just that they provide pretty much a terrfic basis of comparison like I mentioned earlier.
some FPS that i like:
Chronicles of Riddick (i kept thinking..circle of red..is there a fps called circle of red?..lol. yeah, this game is a real gem. came out of nowhere any blew me away immediately. it still ranks, imo, as the best looking game on the xbox - yes, even better than chaos theory)
system shock 2
deus ex
call of duty
half life 2
battlefield 1942 (and its mods)
Brothers in Arms
moh: allied assault pc
no one lives forever
global assault ( :lol i wonder if anyone here remembers this blatant counterstrike clone....actually, it's from the original makers of counterstrike)
aliens v predator
FPSs that, imo, suck:
halo 2 (up until the end, halo was a decent - if not spectacular - game)
every moh after allied assault
serious sam
painkiller
far cry
fear (don't own it, but what i played of it was repetitive and uninteresting)
no one lives forever 2 ( wow..how the HELL did they go from the amazing no one lives forever to this shitty sequel??)
deus ex 2
quake (pick any version...always hated that bunny hopping spaz fest)
i'm sure there're more i can include.
that's just a list off the top of my big head.
siamesedreamer
Banned
Are you fucking kidding me? He totally rips on Halo and then produces this crap pile of a game.
What a fucking joke!
Keep up the good fight. :lol You're entitled to disagree with the vast, overwhelming majority. But to claim that the swarming throng of millions and millions of people somehow were somehow tricked into falling into some kind of hype chasm and not simply all agreeing to the reality of the fact that Halo 2 rules is kind of silly.phonte said:
QFTKuroyume said:
AltogetherAndrews
Member
f_elz said:
I don't have the exact quote, but wasn't it something to the effect of 'aiming to embarrass every other FPS that has come before it'? :lol
phonte said:
Riddick.
Well I was just just curious. Like I said imo Black is closer to Doom 3 or maybe even Painkiller conceptually than things like No One Lives forever, Half-Life, etc....
The closest thing it's to on your like list is maybe AVP or Call of Duty,(and Serious Sam although you didn't like that one) although it's not really like specifically any one of those games. It contains elements of each.
After you rent or buy post impressions. I would be curious to see what you think about it and whether the direction they took is fertile ground after playing it. Looking at your track record of likes and dislikes, I would be suprised if you liked it but stranger things have happened I suppose.
gigamex said:
honestly, i'm not ragging on those people who disliked it.
i've yet to play the game, so i haven't formed any opinion of it just yet.
i do know, however, that i can't trust a review from some site that awarded a thoroughly average game like halo 2 a 9.4
you may just be right...i'm not into repetitive shooters, which is why serious sam and painkiller don't receive any props from me.
i guess i just like the setting of black, though i haven't played it yet.
if my blockbuster has it, i'll rent it tomorrow.
i'm curious to know what suggestions of avp are found in black.
MarkRyan said:
Black ops still has health packs (heh I've been calling it dark ops this whole time. and by health packs i mean the ones that automatically heal you, no 'carry' packs). Only difference is that you have to complete all objectives, which is stupid imo. Makes it tedious instead of difficult. You miss one objective and you have to replay the entire mission. There's also 'destructible' objectives too, which are only found in black ops. And you get a M16 in every level with unlimited ammo...which kinda defeats any difficulty you'll be facing
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Wario64 said:
Now hold on there just a second... what? Unlimited ammo, as in Chicago Typewriter (RE4), or are there just plenty of ammo packs?
AltogetherAndrews said:
Chicago Typewriter (but you must reload clips still)
Actually, all guns have unlimited ammo. And get this: YOU CANT TURN IT OFF. Once you beat the game on hard difficulty, you get unlimted ammo forever on your save file. Unless there's a cheat menu that I'm overlooking
phonte said:
Let me not over-sell that aspect then...
It has more to do with establishing a consistent sort of dark tone and maintaining it. Rather than specifically seeing face huggers or things like that happening.
One of the few things I like about the game is that tone is right. You could make a good game using this theme and this tone...They just didn't do it this time.
The thing I always like about the Aliens videogames is that even if they aren't the best they tend to get that dark tone and theme right. The levels look like you expect them to look. Black gets overly repititive with it, but the game looks art wise like you would expect it to. So that's kinda what I meant there.
Scottlarock
Banned
phonte (phoney?)phonte said:
you got proved wrong already
spin it all
you can.
some might agree
it not as good as
halo but I doubt
many will agree its
average. BTW why to you
double space everything??
?
GameDailyBuffa
Member
Gamespot loses points for writing "stuck in a rut"
siamesedreamer
Banned
Wario64 said:
:lol
The hits keep on comin'!
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
Ya'll gonna make me lose my mind up in here.
[Fanboy mode on]
Take your Dual Weilding and shove it up your ass.
"Dual Weilding is Revolutionary? OMG!!! LOL. WTF?"
[Fanboy mode off]
Blasting a door off its hinges to open it is a big step forward IMO.
I get so sick of "Dur U Needs A Key to Opens Dis Har Door. Even Tho U Already Gots da Rocket Launcher and C4 on Yo."
[Fanboy mode on]
Take your Dual Weilding and shove it up your ass.
"Dual Weilding is Revolutionary? OMG!!! LOL. WTF?"
[Fanboy mode off]
Blasting a door off its hinges to open it is a big step forward IMO.
I get so sick of "Dur U Needs A Key to Opens Dis Har Door. Even Tho U Already Gots da Rocket Launcher and C4 on Yo."
AltogetherAndrews
Member
MidgarBlowedUp said:
With the way this board is, I honestly can't tell if you're joking or if you're being serious. I hope it's the former.