SC2 needs alot of things, another race is not it.
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SC2 needs alot of things, another race is not it.
I don't think there will be any new races or classes in this one.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Guess I could have worded that better.
maniac-kun
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My speculation:
Ok a addon where the Burning Legion strikes back. The new class is The Demon Hunter. Hero Level raised to 95. And the pre addon event has something to do with some rogue warlocks that open some gate.
Ok a addon where the Burning Legion strikes back. The new class is The Demon Hunter. Hero Level raised to 95. And the pre addon event has something to do with some rogue warlocks that open some gate.
place inhabited by demons, devils and infernal creatures, from where some sorcerers take their power directly and sometimes have a patron beast to foster their magic.
An expansion just about warlocks? Nice.
Those darned red locks, always up to shenanigans.
Napalm_Frank
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Unfortunately that was the one I skipped ;-; (along with MOP)
Time to return to Outland :3
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
N'zoth/Azshara expansion most likely since Ozumat's title is <Fiend of the Dark Below>
http://www.wowwiki.com/Ozumat
http://www.wowwiki.com/Ozumat
It's all connected so they could very well be part of the content. WoW lore is basically Six Degrees of Burning Legion.
SillyEskimo
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In "Expansion Ideas" from that same wiki, there is mention of The Great Dark.
http://wowpedia.org/Expansion_ideas
Great Dark
Related areas: Other planets besides Draenor and Azeroth.
I just thought it was worth pointing out.
http://wowpedia.org/Expansion_ideas
Great Dark
Related areas: Other planets besides Draenor and Azeroth.
I just thought it was worth pointing out.
Sir Abacus
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GD Blizzard. Yanking our fucking chains with The Abyssal Maw again.
Not really, they made it retreat but said that they could not get rid of it and that they would have to deal with it again later. Plus it is hinted that N'Zoth is the one responsible for the Nightmare and also for turning Azshara and co. into nagas.
Yeah :|
I bet this will only have 2 races redone when released. Talk about dat carrot on a stick!
Carpe Libertatem
Member
This is more likely it. The other wiki entry is from the WoW RPG and isn't really considered to be canon. Although it wouldn't be the first time it was used, I guess. But Ozumat is pretty clear proof IMO
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
"we didn't think Abyssal Maw was good enough for a raid...
...IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR AN EXPANSION!"
you obviously don't get why the talent trees are the way they are, so there's no point in trying to convince you that what you said would be an absolutely worthless idea.
Sir Abacus
Member
Blizzard were terrible people for doing this. Both for scrapping the raid instance and because they keep shitting out terrible lore into books instead of the giant fucking world they created to play the lore out in.
I swear to god it's the worst kind of DLC in the universe.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
You would be surprised what major arcs and storylines were made into books for Warcraft. =/
Emerald Dream would be rather boring though wouldn't it? It's basically the exact same place but...dreamier and greener (IIRC).
DAoC flashbacks!!
I'm hoping for the 5th WoW expansion. Pandaland is really stale by now, and my least played expansion by far.
cartoon_soldier
Member
BURNING LEGION RETURNS
I hope
I hope
Carpe Libertatem
Member
This could not be further from the truth. Talent trees weren't complicated - everyone used the same cookie cutter spec. There's actual choice now and you'll use different talents for different situations (in both PvE and PvP) because you can respec on the fly. And that's significantly more engaging.
Sir Abacus
Member
What happened was that there was one optimal cookie cutter build with 0-5 "do whatever you want with them" points. The new talent trees roll all of the cookie cutter stuff into the spec so that John Q Moron can't do stupid things and gimp their group under the guise of playing the game "how I want to play it".
tl;dr: no more shockadins lol
I kind of like this way better from what I saw at launch of MoP, back then there was really only one build that was optimal whereas now you can potentially switch around some stuff on a fight by fight basis. I think they would be better off not including core dps abilities in the tree at all though, those are just going to get mathed out :-/
Dawn of Aspects spoiler:
The Nightmare is still present in the Rift of Aln, it is starting to stir again and looking for a new Nightmare Lord.
Vestal
Gold Member
bloat? Balance? "useless talents"? All of those are excuses. the min/max crowd?
the current talent trees if we can even call them that are terrible, the same way how they have reworked mana regeneration and mana pools.
SillyEskimo
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But it is so much better now. That would be a huge step backwards. All they did was give characters the skills they had to take in the old talent trees anyway. They also trimmed downed the amount of buttons needed on screen significantly by combining group/individual buffs and other fairly obvious overlaps. It tightened up a system that had gotten pretty sloppy and overcrowded over the years.
I thought I would detest the new system, but after scrutinizing it in-game for a day or two on the class I have put so much time into playing, there was literally no noticeable difference between the trees and the new method. I actually was able to get some weird combinations on my feral druid that I never would've dreamed about prior to the overhaul.
I never hear people that actually play the game wish for the old system back.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
the only way i would support a talent point system is if they dumped everything into the same pot and let you "customize" your spec.
that would obviously mean no more individual specs and balancing would be a mess, probably.
i'd probably just be the stupidest hunter spec anyone could be and use serpent sting as my main shot.
as a Paladin i always wanted to use Reckoning, but it was never a viable talent because there was always something more important in the same tier or higher.
everyone who was serious about playing the game played the same spec. PERIOD. the Cata system was a stop-gap to what they originally should have done in MoP. There is no point in clicking 30-60 times to get the same shit that Blizzard intended you on getting. They are the ones designing the specs and the game, not us.
the original talent points don't work anymore the way they are designed in current gaming. why are they are going to implement a useless feature that ultimately everyone will end up being the same after clicking 60 times?
i much rather enjoy the current talent specs, and they actually make a difference. There are still problems with choosing some that may not be "as good" as the others, but isn't that what you wanted? a bad choice and a good choice?
Could be. Wrathion has been harping on the Legion's return for two damn expansions now. Bringing Azshara into the fray is perfect for to bring them back. She brought them there to begin with, she has got to be some kind of crazy with both an old god and Sargaras whispering in her head.
Plus, Nagas are fun to kill. =D
Uh? It's obviously Naga and Azshara related, with a mixture of old gods.
If you do the stuff for the lorewalkers you learn about it. It's probably also referenced during the klaxxi storyline.
That's true, I don't think they'd fully bring the burning legion into it until the very end as a segue into the following expansion though. There's more than enough content with Azshara/N'Zoth to command an entire expansion. But who knows, looking at the heirloom weapons from Garrosh it seems that the next expansion will be 10 levels instead of 5, so maybe they will release a huge expansion.
Well, that Wowpedia link might not be related at all since the RPG's are non canon.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2283549208
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2283549208
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
it doesn't mean anything if they are non-canon. they just aren't recognized as "canon" until it is integrated into the main lore. the concepts are still things they base the actual lore on and they clarify/expand upon lots of things, or change them completely.
the essential concept is pretty much always the same though. but they retcon tons of shit that is actually canon anyway. the wow rpg stuff just doesn't "exist" until it does.
Passive Assassin
Member
So I guess we're going down the Maelstrom?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I'm conflicted, in one hand, if it is a N'zoth/Azshara expansion its more than likely that underwater zones will be a major feature this time (maybe the whole expansion is underwater who knows), i really disliked Vash'jir, the concept was good but it transformed in a pretty boring zone.
On the other hand i'm a sucker for Old God's lore, and N'zoth looks like is the most badass OD of them all.
On the other hand i'm a sucker for Old God's lore, and N'zoth looks like is the most badass OD of them all.
Mechanized
Member
I would rather have new character models for old races and a new hero class than a new playable race. As nice as something like Naga or Ogres would be.
I thought that's how we got to Deepholm.
Trickster
Member
Makes way more sense for WoW considering the fact that there are old gods chained beneath Azeroth.
I have no doubt that new models will be a big selling point of the new expansion. Or maybe the expansion after that knowing Blizzard lol
I want.