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Bloomberg article on Switch 'Pro' - launches holiday '21, expect better uptake than PS4 Pro

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These are games where the technical effort is kept to a minimum and the graphics enhanced by top notch art design. They will look sooo good in 4k. Hard to imagine it will not all be 60fps as well, given the promised specs.
They would look even better with raytraced Global Illumination and better textures.
 

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Orin is being produced on both 8nm and 5nm; (because 5nm isn't approved for self-riving vehicles yet)
Ps4 Pro/XOX performance would definitely be possible on 5nm.
There is a verified developer at Reee saying he's heard of a chip for Nintendo that hasn't taped out yet, and Furukawa said in his latest interview that they had initiatives that would appeal more to Westerners than to the Japanese.

I think we're looking at a stationary Switch on 8nm this year and a 5nm hybrid to launch along side Pokemon early next year.
That's exactly what I meant, if you look up the patent they published back in 2017 of the Supplemental Computing Device, the diagram showed some type of box which in this case is the Switch Dock outputting power to the Switch. But in the picture, it shows something totally different from what I'm talking about. Again patents can change and I can see the Switch Dock being the powerhouse that the Switch needs. What I'm thinking (if they do it correctly if it ever does come out) if there is a Switch Pro, I could see the Switch dock being the powerhouse of the system itself. Sort of like the external GPU's that you can buy for some gaming laptops. The funny thing is those things are meant for Nvidia GPUs (at least from what I've seen) and I could definitely see the Switch dock being an external GPU/CPU for the Switch Pro.


Here's an example.

 
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I hope they actually use the new hardware.

Not like DSi and that new 3DS model where there were quite literally 2-3 games that used the extra features then NOTHING. Both consoles were so pointless.
 
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if it get close to 1tf with latest architecture already a huge boost. with the rumoured DLSS it might be able atleast to pull ps4 pro performance.
 

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If the switch pro can handle ps4 level graphics games , does the switch cartridge have enough capacity to hold those 3rd party games? A switch that can play all those 3rd party games on the go would be a game changer.
 

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If the switch pro can handle ps4 level graphics games , does the switch cartridge have enough capacity to hold those 3rd party games? A switch that can play all those 3rd party games on the go would be a game changer.
I’m sure they’ll get to use the 64Gb cards would be use, which in reality would be enough.
 

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Will everyday people actually be able to preorder and reserve a system, or will bot farms buy them all? I don’t trust Nintendo to care about it either. They’ve shown no interest in trying to fix this sort of thing with NES classic/SNES classic, other limited edition stuff.

I honestly have zero confidence in being able to get one when it comes out after seeing how PS5 & XSX launches went, so I’ll wait until I can go to a store and buy one in person.
Also, if they don’t take this opportunity to redesign the contacts for the joycon analogs, then they are dumb.
 
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Makes sense.

PSP = Not quite a PS2 but more powerful than PS1

PSVITA = Not quite a PS3 but more powerful than PS2

Switch = Not quite a PS4/XONE but more powerful than PS3/360

SuperSwitch = Not quite PS5/XSX but more Powerful than PS4/XONE, which falls in line with PS4Pro
 
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It is absolutely impossible that the Switch pro is more powerful than the PS4 Pro, why? Because the most powerful mobile graphics chip is barely at the level of an Xbox one (classic) (1.2 Tflops) ... The adreno 660, the most powerful mobile GPU offers "only" 1.7Tflops of power, the PS4 Pro is 4.2 Tflops ... and the price for this GPU is far too high for a mainstream console. .. So all of this is bullshit.
 
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God, how they choose their language intentionally squishy. There won't be any portable console with Xbox One X nor PlayStation 4 Pro level of performance. Seems the author of the article has zero technical knowledge, so he couldn't interpret his source properly.

Most likely they meant a performance increase in the ratio of Xbox One X and PS4 Pro. So about 2-3 times more performance. That seems realistic considering the ~500 teraflops of Nintendo Switch. Would mean 1-1.5 Tflops in the end.

That is the performance that the iPad Pro achieved 2 1/2 years ago. However, Apple is technologically far ahead of the competition. In comparison, the current M1 chip of the MacBook has around 2.3 Tflops and a lot of AI computing power. Snapdragon and Nvidia are far away from that. However, paired with DLSS features and Tensor cores we would get a really powerful handheld. But it doubt it will be on the upper end of possibilities. Nintendo never released high end hardware since N64 and they won't release a 500 bucks handheld.

The m1 is either hooked to mains or a juicy laptop battery, a better comparison would be an iPad.
 

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The m1 is either hooked to mains or a juicy laptop battery, a better comparison would be an iPad.
Of course the switch is not going to perform like a PS4 pro while on handheld mode, but it will docked.
I’ve said it before, it’s not hard to imagine nvidia making a custom 2TF gpu for the switch, one that renders at 1080p natively and upscales to 4K through DLSS.
When in handheld mode, it’ll cut its speed to around 1TF, perfect for running PS4 quality games on that new 720p oled.

This is the only way all of these various reports make sense together. It’s not a 3ds to new 3ds, it’s a NES to SNES
 
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Makes sense.

PSP = Not quite a PS2 but more powerful than PS1

PSVITA = Not quite a PS3 but more powerful than PS2

Switch = Not quite a PS4/XONE but more powerful than PS3/360

SuperSwitch = Not quite PS5/XSX but more Powerful than PS4/XONE, which falls in line with PS4Pro

It won't be that. Mobile hardware doesn't progress in such speed anymore. My guess is ~1TF when in handheld mode (PS4 power when docked?), but if this thing gets DLSS then this could be interesting.
 

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No interest.

I knew they were holding back games for this for at least 2 years now. Not falling for it again.

We got about 2 years of a great Switch games lineup. Not worth it for me.
 

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Just a reminder, Tegra X1 was 1Tf (512Gf FP32 1Ghz Max) in 2015 with 256 maxwell cores



in 2016 TX2 was release with 750Gf FP32

in 2018 Jetson AGX Xavier with 1.4Tf FP32 64 Tensor Cores, but was 899USD, too expensive for nintendo tastes


And last year Jetson Xavier NX was release with 1Tf FP32 64 Tensor cores 384 volta cores at 399USD, this is basically a cheaper Jetson AGX and interesdly it has NX in the name, which is the Nintendo Switch code name.


This thing is 12nm @ 854ghz base (Switch TX1 is heavily underclocked in portable mode @384-460ghz with 20nm), so it would be easily at Xbox One levels in portable mode at stock clocks in 720p, even PS4 levels with DLSS. In dock mode this chipset can be clock at 1377Ghz max put in it at PS4 Pro levels with DLSS

Power draw is just over 10 wats without screen so maybe too high (its meant for cars right?), maybe they down clock it again in handheld and it fits the power draw requirement. While its really annoying that its 12nm... current best is 5mn (if reworked for a smaller node it would use much less power) but there's no capacity at 5nm or 7nm at the moment so they would at least be able to launch next year :pie_thinking:
 

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*IF* the new SOC has DLSS(I'm convinced it does), then the system being in line with PS4 Pro/Xbox One X levels of performance is entirely possible(IN DOCKED MODE)
The dock will obviously have 2.1 HDMI and I'd wager it will also contain a bigger fan/multiple fans for increased cooling.

No.. Consider the Xbox One X at load draws 172W - its on an older older manufacturing node though.. but we do have a new console that is comparable-ish in performance in the Xbox Series S that draws 100w at load.

Switch in its current design uses 10watts.. DLSS helps boost resolution so for example a game may run 30-50% quicker at 4k than it otherwise would. There's still so much more in play E.G memory bandwidth, video memory size..

Apple currently have the most efficient silicon and If the next iPad pro rivals a Xbox Series S for power (don't think it will...) consider the cost of it.

Nintendo has not used cutting edge tech in years, opting for cheaper established manufacturing nodes. They also go within a budget and sell at profit.

All these things point to the total improbability of your train of thought.
 
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No.. Consider the Xbox One X at load draws 172W - its on an older older manufacturing node though.. but we do have a new console that is comparable-ish in performance in the Xbox Series S that draws 100w at load.

Switch in its current design uses 10watts.. DLSS helps boost resolution so for example a game may run 30-50% quicker at 4k than it otherwise would. There's still so much more in play E.G memory bandwidth, video memory size..

Apple currently have the most efficient silicon and If the next iPad pro rivals a Xbox Series S for power (don't think it will...) consider the cost of it.

Nintendo has not used cutting edge tech in years, opting for cheaper established manufacturing nodes. They also go within a budget and sell at profit.

All these things point to the total improbability of your train of thought.

I have a feeling doubters will be proven wrong this time. All we can do is wait and see. Leaks shouldn't be too far away with the dev kits being out in the wild.
 

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It is absolutely impossible that the Switch pro is more powerful than the PS4 Pro, why? Because the most powerful mobile graphics chip is barely at the level of an Xbox one (classic) (1.2 Tflops) ... The adreno 660, the most powerful mobile GPU offers "only" 1.7Tflops of power, the PS4 Pro is 4.2 Tflops ... and the price for this GPU is far too high for a mainstream console. .. So all of this is bullshit.
The Switch isn't gonna use a Qualcomm chip. It's gonna be a custom built chip from Nvidia. Now I'm not saying the GPU is gonna be equivalent to the PS4 Pro, I'd find that very unlikely. But it's technically possible, especially when you consider that Nvidia flops >>> GCN flops.
 
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The Switch isn't gonna use a Qualcomm chip. It's gonna be a custom built chip from Nvidia. Now I'm not saying the GPU is gonna be equivalent to the PS4 Pro, I'd find that very unlikely. But it's technically possible, especially when you consider that Nvidia flops >>> GCN flops.

Samsung S21 is over £600, latest process (5nm) best non apple chipset. A comparable Switch would not be any cheaper. Apple's M1 which is the best current chipset (pound for pound if you will...as much as I loathe Apple) has a GPU capable of 2.6 TFLOPS. That's the cutting edge and uses more power than the Switch. There is no chance that Nvidia has a 10w mobile chipset now that can do 4.2 of anyone's Tflops. None.

I just don't see how people on here can avoid common sense ("despite the last 4 gens... this time Nintendo will"... "Nintendo are currently winning but will change tack"...etc..etc...) or Physics (handheld Xbox One X, PS4 pro)

:messenger_sunglasses: Hope drives people insane.
 

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So has anyone of note weighed in on this yet?

I dunno what to believe anymore.

Just gonna expect a minor upgrade but secretly pray for PS4 power.

There's simply too much smoke here with the MULTIPLE Bloomberg articles to *not* be true. It's happening. I'm also highly confident that this won't simply be a "new screen" situation.
I believe the rumors of the Mariko chip being discontinued which would point to an all new SOC(custom no doubt) most likely based on ORIN which will have DLSS on board along
with Mariko backwards compatibility to play OG games on it.

All that said, I think this will be a sizeable upgrade. Performance of new games coming out are suffering with developers struggling with the OG's power like Panic Button who are
wizards of Switch ports.

This will surprise people, it's gonna be a very nice upgrade. Nintendo simply can't afford to just plop a new OLED screen in the OG model and call it a day. That would create massive backlash
and pretty much kill off any remaining third party support. Nintendo knows that.
 

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This will surprise people, it's gonna be a very nice upgrade. Nintendo simply can't afford to just plop a new OLED screen in the OG model and call it a day. That would create massive backlash
and pretty much kill off any remaining third party support. Nintendo knows that.

Nintendo are currently winning, unless it was not correct wasn't there a thread on here saying that the Switch has generated more money than the PS4? All without a any/decent version of FIFA, COD, BF.... third party doesn't mater that much, people buy Switch for Nintendo games. Nintendo could afford to just put out a better screen and a slightly revised chipset so games run at a solid 30fps, it would still sell bucket loads. Everyone would love to see a more ambitious Nintendo but why would they change when there winning?

I would like to be surprised...
 
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Nintendo are currently winning, unless it was not correct wasn't there a thread on here saying that the Switch has generated more money than the PS4? All without a any/decent version of FIFA, COD, BF.... third party doesn't mater that much, people buy Switch for Nintendo games. Nintendo could afford to just put out a better screen and a slightly revised chipset so games run at a solid 30fps, it would still sell bucket loads. Everyone would love to see a more ambitious Nintendo but why would they change when there winning?

I would like to be surprised...

Nintendo had that recent interview where Furakawa stated that he along with people in Nintendo were not content with keeping the status quo and that he was terrified of not having plans for the company and that every year was a "do or die" situation.

Nintendo President Furakawa interview from earlier this month, click text for link.
“Not matter the hits, in the entertainment business, people someday do lose interest. Up until now, we have repeatedly had the experience of our business taking a nosedive.

I simply don't think Nintendo going with just a bigger OLED screen and 4k upscale chip lines up with these recent coments.

No, they want to stay competitive. They need the thirdy party PS5/Xbox Series X ports. They need the heavy hitter franchises like Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Need for Speeds, NHL Hockey, Grand Theft Auto 5, etc.
THOSE types of games will drive sales and a substantially new powerful Nintendo Switch will also get the "hardcore gamers" to buy a system who've generally looked at the OG Switch as a weak, underpowered system and avoid
buying it.

There's a huge untapped market for Nintendo in that demographic. It would be foolish to continually ignore it, especially if they want to drive sales. Gamers will spend the $350-$399 if the system can handle ports well
that were previously PS4(Pro) and Xbox One(X) only.....

As a matter of fact, I think they'll LOSE existing customers who WANT a bump in system power. If the new system comes out and it's basically just a oled screen and upscaling chip, I'm DONE with my Switch and will
sell it.

The ball's in Nintendo's court. It's about time they play instead of going home with it.
 
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Nintendo had that recent interview where Furakawa stated that he along with people in Nintendo were not content with keeping the status quo and that he was terrified of not having plans for the company and that every year was a "do or die" situation.

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It would be much more Nintendo if they suddenly unveiled a Nintendo style 'Oculus quest' (Virtual Boy 2 :messenger_grinning: ) rather than a handheld that could keep up with current gen ports (for that to make sense over the next few years they would really need to aim at stuff that will be running on series s). Nintendo not content with keeping the status quo typically means coming up with new platform ideas rather than going for power.

My money would still be on a minor refresh at the end of this year and a more upgraded Switch 2.0 within 2 years. Switch isn't that old and they have a history of shit hardware tweaks.
 

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All that said, I think this will be a sizeable upgrade. Performance of new games coming out are suffering with developers struggling with the OG's power like Panic Button who are
wizards of Switch ports.

This will surprise people, it's gonna be a very nice upgrade. Nintendo simply can't afford to just plop a new OLED screen in the OG model and call it a day. That would create massive backlash
and pretty much kill off any remaining third party support. Nintendo knows that.

This is how I feel. It makes a lot of sense and Nintendo was actually more aggressive with the Switch than they have been for a while so it makes me think if they wanna ensure continued success of the Switch, they'll do the right thing.

But we all know Nintendo makes some bizarre moves sometimes.

I'd be ecstatic with base PS4 power alone. The PS4 was able to pump out incredible visuals. Anything else is a cherry on top at this point.
 
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I find hard to believe nvidia developed another tetra chip just because of Nintendo.
Is it really though? By partnering with Nintendo they were able to sell outdated Tegra X1 chips by the boatload--much more than they could have ever done on their own. This was a deal made in heaven for them lol. Why wouldn't they want to do it all over again with a custom made chip this time?
 
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It won't be that. Mobile hardware doesn't progress in such speed anymore. My guess is ~1TF when in handheld mode (PS4 power when docked?), but if this thing gets DLSS then this could be interesting.
Mobile hardware has been accelerating faster than PC for a decade at least. The power is there, the issue for Nintendo is price and heat depending on the fab process.

They could easily beat base ps4 if they wanted to chuck money around. Which they probably do not.

This discussion grows tiresome because it’s wholly dependent on if it’s a switch 2 or *new* switch and I wish we knew that at least.

Oh, if you were saying it can’t be ps4 pro performance then yes I agree.
 
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Nintendo had that recent interview where Furakawa stated that he along with people in Nintendo were not content with keeping the status quo and that he was terrified of not having plans for the company and that every year was a "do or die" situation.

Nintendo President Furakawa interview from earlier this month, click text for link.
“Not matter the hits, in the entertainment business, people someday do lose interest. Up until now, we have repeatedly had the experience of our business taking a nosedive.

I simply don't think Nintendo going with just a bigger OLED screen and 4k upscale chip lines up with these recent coments.

No, they want to stay competitive. They need the thirdy party PS5/Xbox Series X ports. They need the heavy hitter franchises like Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Need for Speeds, NHL Hockey, Grand Theft Auto 5, etc.
THOSE types of games will drive sales and a substantially new powerful Nintendo Switch will also get the "hardcore gamers" to buy a system who've generally looked at the OG Switch as a weak, underpowered system and avoid
buying it.

There's a huge untapped market for Nintendo in that demographic. It would be foolish to continually ignore it, especially if they want to drive sales. Gamers will spend the $350-$399 if the system can handle ports well
that were previously PS4(Pro) and Xbox One(X) only.....

As a matter of fact, I think they'll LOSE existing customers who WANT a bump in system power. If the new system comes out and it's basically just a oled screen and upscaling chip, I'm DONE with my Switch and will
sell it.

The ball's in Nintendo's court. It's about time they play instead of going home with it.
Bro your analysis is WAAAY off in my opinion.
Nintendo has NEVER been about raw power. They pooped all over Sony and Microsoft last gen in terms of sales (and arguably brand recognition - the Switch name is a highly favored one), despite launching their much weaker console years after theirs.

Nintendo is known as a kid friendly brand. COD and Madden gamers aren't going to start abandoning their beloved PlayStations and Xboxes just because the console with Mario suddenly has the same games. Hell, there's even the ever-growing PC market to contend with too, which is surely stealing a lot of gamers away who would otherwise still be playing consoles.

The Switch has put them in a fantastic position, and they've always put out weird and innovative consoles at a lower production cost. Why you think they would abandon that strategy despite literally being on top of the console world in terms of sales is baffling to me. An upgraded Switch will appeal to a subset of their core audience, and then 2-3 years later they will bring out a whole new console and begin the dance again.
 
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I can certainly see a new Switch getting a similar performance jump, probably with an even bigger CPU performance jump than PS4 Pro or Xbox One X had compared to their successors.

It's difficult to do the math exactly with power consumption, but using an RTX 3060 as a basis to extrapolate from, that GPU consumes 170 watts, has 3584 Cuda Cores, clocked at 1780Mhz.
Scaling down to 512 Cuda Cores a GPU at the same speed could presumably use 24.28 watts, half that clock speed would use 12.14 watts, that would be a 512 CC GPU, clocked at 890Mhz, which would hit 911GFlops, but given that DLSS is all but certainly to be a feature of the device clocks could drop well below that, while still being a massive improvement in final GPU performance in portable mode compared to the 2017 Switch hardware.

Nintendo could very well also rip out the RT Cores, so that would also have a knock on effect in power consumption too.
DLSS in portable mode is the big thing I take away from this, as resolutions well below a native 720p could still look significantly better on that OLED screen.
Obviously Flops going from one architecture to another aren't directly comparable, but 512 Cuda Cores at say 500MHz would produce 512 GFlops, using Ampere Architecture (assuming Ampere is used, but obviously we don't know whether it's Ampere or Turing), the launch Maxwell Switch using 256 Cuda Cores clocked at 307.2Mhz produced 157.28GFlop, in raw Flops that's a 3.25X performance increase and going by my math a 512CC Ampere with all of the RT and Turing hardware at 500Mhz would only use 6-7 watts, which could be a fantastic base level of performance for a 7inch 720p OLED Switch.
Native 720p should be very doable in games at 60FPS in Switch games that traditionally run at even sub 30FPS.

ARM CPU cores are also significantly more capable now.
This would be the kind of performance I would expect, maybe not full clocks in docked mode, but I don't see why a 24 watt GPU couldn't work in docked mode and TBH the end results with DLSS could be close to PS4 Pro or even XBox One X, using native 1080p as a base resolution, then AI Upscaled to 4K.
Hopefully Pro users will have access any cross gen multiplats and some not too demanding next gen exclusive 3rd Party AAA games, it will all depend on whether the system has a good enough ARM CPU, a sufficiently fast enough NVME drive, etc.
 

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Bro your analysis is WAAAY off in my opinion.
Nintendo has NEVER been about raw power. They pooped all over Sony and Microsoft last gen in terms of sales (and arguably brand recognition - the Switch name is a highly favored one), despite launching their much weaker console years after theirs.

Nintendo is known as a kid friendly brand. COD and Madden gamers aren't going to start abandoning their beloved PlayStations and Xboxes just because the console with Mario suddenly has the same games. Hell, there's even the ever-growing PC market to contend with too, which is surely stealing a lot of gamers away who would otherwise still be playing consoles.

The Switch has put them in a fantastic position, and they've always put out weird and innovative consoles at a lower production cost. Why you think they would abandon that strategy despite literally being on top of the console world in terms of sales is baffling to me. An upgraded Switch will appeal to a subset of their core audience, and then 2-3 years later they will bring out a whole new console and begin the dance again.
They wouldn't be abandoning anything. The Switch and Switch Lite would still be on the market and continue their current sales curve, while this new premium mode retails for a higher price and appeals to people who want higher resolutions/framerates or will want to play the third party games that will only play on this revision.

Also helps extend the lifecycle of the Switch until 2024.
 

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Did you start gaming in 2008?
Well admittedly "never" was an overexaggeration. But it has been true for the last 20 years. The idea that they will come out with a new Switch to rival the new Xbox and PS within the next year is just asinine.
They wouldn't be abandoning anything. The Switch and Switch Lite would still be on the market and continue their current sales curve, while this new premium mode retails for a higher price and appeals to people who want higher resolutions/framerates or will want to play the third party games that will only play on this revision.

Also helps extend the lifecycle of the Switch until 2024.
Eh? I wasn't talking about Nintendo abandoning the Switch. Read it again.
 
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I think switch pro will be between ps4 and ps4 pro in the best case with descent DLSS of course
 
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Nintendo had that recent interview where Furakawa stated that he along with people in Nintendo were not content with keeping the status quo and that he was terrified of not having plans for the company and that every year was a "do or die" situation.

Nintendo President Furakawa interview from earlier this month, click text for link.
“Not matter the hits, in the entertainment business, people someday do lose interest. Up until now, we have repeatedly had the experience of our business taking a nosedive.

I simply don't think Nintendo going with just a bigger OLED screen and 4k upscale chip lines up with these recent coments.

No, they want to stay competitive. They need the thirdy party PS5/Xbox Series X ports. They need the heavy hitter franchises like Madden, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Need for Speeds, NHL Hockey, Grand Theft Auto 5, etc.
THOSE types of games will drive sales and a substantially new powerful Nintendo Switch will also get the "hardcore gamers" to buy a system who've generally looked at the OG Switch as a weak, underpowered system and avoid
buying it.

There's a huge untapped market for Nintendo in that demographic. It would be foolish to continually ignore it, especially if they want to drive sales. Gamers will spend the $350-$399 if the system can handle ports well
that were previously PS4(Pro) and Xbox One(X) only.....

As a matter of fact, I think they'll LOSE existing customers who WANT a bump in system power. If the new system comes out and it's basically just a oled screen and upscaling chip, I'm DONE with my Switch and will
sell it.

The ball's in Nintendo's court. It's about time they play instead of going home with it.

Your theory just doesn't seem possible to be honest. Even if they do have a 4TF GPU (TF are a little overstated on Ampere so it could push the total up if using the latest tech - doubtful for Nintendo), how much bandwidth do they have? Dropping from 200 - 300GB/s down to maybe 40-50GB/s would still be crushing. PS4 Pro/1X levels of performance in a small tablet still seems like a bridge too far, IMO. However, it's always good to see technology improving, so, I'd be pleasantly surprised if that turned out to be the case.
 
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Well admittedly "never" was an overexaggeration. But it has been true for the last 20 years. The idea that they will come out with a new Switch to rival the new Xbox and PS within the next year is just asinine.

Eh? I wasn't talking about Nintendo abandoning the Switch. Read it again.
My bad, I misread your post.
 
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There's only one thing that I've been salty for years about.....Nintendo dropping out of the high end console market. I would love to see them making games on a system with the same performance as their competitors.
 

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No interest.

I knew they were holding back games for this for at least 2 years now. Not falling for it again.

We got about 2 years of a great Switch games lineup. Not worth it for me.
This is absurd. They have 80 million Switch Owners and are a public company. Shareholders would have their heads if they held back games that could be sold now. Nintendo have always been slow to release big games and Covid is certainly a factor too. The Switch isn't the WiiU. They also just announced Splatoon 3 on the Switch in early 2022.