Soyongdori
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Boardwalk Empire - Season 3 - Sundays on HBO
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SCULLIBUNDO
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FUCK YOU, you shitbag. I hope you get banned.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Spoiler history pls :c
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
He didn't miss the shot. It was the intentional nothing-for-nothing shot that he was describing to Lucky. He left the cue ball in a place that it was obstructed by two solids, leaving Lucky no clear shot at his striped ball.
Soyongdori
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I got the year wrong.
And how the FUCK is real life event history considered spoiler?
RobotNinjaHornets
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Because I don't know history. It's not really any different to not having read a book before seeing the film/TV series.
Also I was being polite about it, no need to be a dick
Soyongdori
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I wasn't being a dick at you. I was implying to the moron who wants me banned because he is ignorant.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Are you serious? We've had this discussion and rule in every single Boardwalk thread since the beginning. Since a lot of the characters follow the history of their real-life counterparts, there are many of us watching the show who are deliberately avoiding their history.
I can't believe you could be so stupid. I'm seriously pissed off right now.
Soyongdori
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Are you stupid? In few pages ago, people were talking about the years when certain real life characters like Masseria gets killed off, without spoiler.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Well thank you, I didn't see that a few pages ago, but now you've spoiled that for me too. Please do us all a favor and stop posting already. Jesus fucking christ.
Soyongdori
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It's NOT a spoiler. The writers can alter the real life history events whatever they wish to fit. For the last time, calm down. They already did this in the past in Boardwalk Empire.
Plus 6 years from season 3 is a lot of stretch. The show can end before hitting that timeline.
Soyongdori, irrespective of your eagerness to debate the point:
We don't have anyone who moderates this thread. Cornballer is awesome and does what he can, but he's a regular member. So we're left to basically moderate ourselves and use common sense. General consensus is that 'don't openly discuss history that concerns key characters/elements in the show's future' is a fair rule to assume.
And while they can change history in small respects, they're not going to have someone killed in a different year.
We don't have anyone who moderates this thread. Cornballer is awesome and does what he can, but he's a regular member. So we're left to basically moderate ourselves and use common sense. General consensus is that 'don't openly discuss history that concerns key characters/elements in the show's future' is a fair rule to assume.
And while they can change history in small respects, they're not going to have someone killed in a different year.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Is that based on how they've pretty much followed the events and years of history so far pretty accurately - eg: in this past episode with Jess Smith.
You could at least apologize for ruining this stuff.
Cornballer
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Knock it off with the "so and so dies in this year" posts. At least use some spoiler tags next time. Thanks.
I thought he deliberately left them with no shot like he explained in his speech to them.
Soyongdori
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Well I apologize. Happy now?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yeah, I forgot about his speech. My mistake.
Has there been instances where Boardwalk Empire differs from what happened in history? I'm pretty sure some dates and events have been slightly fiddled with. I know for a fact that the real Nucky didn't have Buscemi's frame.
And any answers should deal with what's already happened in Boardwalk Empire, please don't spoil or paste a history lesson that could spoil the show.
And any answers should deal with what's already happened in Boardwalk Empire, please don't spoil or paste a history lesson that could spoil the show.
ChosenPredator
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there is a lot of made up stuff in it - a few characters made to enhance the story but i think the real characters follow the same path of demise.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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As far as I can tell it's stayed pretty close to the big events. Like Jess Smith did kill himself, or he was possibly murdered, in May 1923. And I'd bet that it'll continue you to stay that way, but then again who knows what they'll do. They changed Nucky's last name specifically so that they wouldn't be married to his real life history.
Soyongdori
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John McGarrigle, the former boss of Owen, who is a character based on real life Eamon de Valera the leader of IRA,
they killed his character off in season 2, but the real life Eamon didn't get killed off by his own men
This is beginning to remind me of the Game of Thrones thread. People just don't realize when they're spoiling something apparently.
Note: what I tagged is a massive spoiler because
it tells us that he survives until at least the late 20s, thus is in absolutely no danger this season
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Jesus fucking christ, Chip.
la flama blanca
Banned
It's Gyp
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Chip, Gyp. Jesus fucking christ.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
What's crazy is you see it coming but you have a sliver of hope he'll calm down.
Honestly, I was expecting Gyp to walk away and say something like "His father was a master of waves, lets see how the waves treat him". After that you see a storm on the horizon and the resulting waves would drown the guy.
But the chances of that working are nil to very, very slim.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
His brutality has made this season.
ryutaro's mama
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Don't know if it's been said but I was really put off by the episode last night. BE usually does a pretty good job of masking their plot twists and big moments.
I was able to telegraph the end of the episode from early on and that was pretty shitty.
Big moment #1: It was clear that
ALWAYS means its bad news for a character.
Big moment #2: It was clear to me that Margaret was
Big moment #3: When Kessler tells Nucky
Also, in a smaller nitpick, I wish that Harrow's
That scene with Gyp
I was able to telegraph the end of the episode from early on and that was pretty shitty.
Big moment #1: It was clear that
Owen was gonna die when he went through all the motions of planning for the future but he had to just take care of this 'easy business' for Nucky.
ALWAYS means its bad news for a character.
Big moment #2: It was clear to me that Margaret was
pregnant when she seemed a little ho hum about finally getting the birth control from the doctor. It was cemented when he made a mention of her looking ill or fevered or something.
Big moment #3: When Kessler tells Nucky
"HEY BOSS, THERE IS A BOX THAT JUST GOT DELIVERED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT! THERE'S NOTHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS!!!
Also, in a smaller nitpick, I wish that Harrow's
girl had taken off the mask and kissed the real him when he asked her for a kiss. It would have been powerful to show she fully accepts him.
That scene with Gyp
and the shovel was stomach turning. I couldn't watch when the neck went limp.
I disagree. In fact, I'd say that this season BE has relied far too much on random shock violence at the end of each episode to "save" it.
So foreshadowing is all of a sudden terrible?
Also look at why she didn't take off Harrow's mask off. She doesn't like or enjoy that side of Harrow, the dark and menacing side that was shown while he strangled her father. That side of Harrow is meant to frighten or be menacing.
ryutaro's mama
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Foreshadowing is fine.
Using old, tired cliches that make it possible for me to figure out your big moments in advance?
Fucking terrible, yes.
Foreshadowing. Made the episode even richer for me. But the show does enough to invert expectations that any such hints can often be red herrings.
Cornballer
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- The National cover Ill See You in My Dreams for Boardwalk Empire
I didn't know that was them over the end credits, but I listened to it again and you can tell it's Matt Berninger.
I didn't know that was them over the end credits, but I listened to it again and you can tell it's Matt Berninger.
ryutaro's mama
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Naw, good foreshadowing was Nucky and that kid in the liquor hideout.
They foreshadowed like crazy that the kid was gonna be trouble but I didn't see Nucky's immediate, final resolution coming. At all.
That was played extremely well. We (the audience) were as shocked as Owen's character.
I love BE but I think they got this episode wrong.
Wow, had no idea
The National continues to be awesome. Next they'll provide lyrics for Curb Your Enthusiasm's theme.
See that's funny because I did.
There's much that I don't see coming, some stuff that I think will happen that doesn't, and certain things (like Owen's death being imminent) that I'm fairly confident are inevitable. All part of Boardwalk, imo. Just agree to disagree on this particular episode, I guess.
ryutaro's mama
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You saw Nucky pulling the trigger (in that moment) coming?
Wow. Ok. You must be psychic!
I would say I figured the kid wouldn't make it (long term) but to say I foresaw Nucky acing him in coldblood from behind?
Nope. Nothing about that scene even set up that kinda payoff.
Cornballer
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Grinchy
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What I took from it was that he was talking about how, if you're going to make a risky move (like a complicated pool shot), you must make sure you know where it leaves you. A fool would only consider the shot itself, but a smart man like him makes sure to leave the cue ball in a position where his enemy has no next shot.
He left the cue ball right behind 2 of his balls, leaving his opponent no shot whatsoever, so it didn't matter that he missed his shot. *edit- shit, I didn't realize I was on the previous page...
It's fine that you're wrong, but do you have to be a dick at the same time?
Do you not remember the episode that well? A significant theme throughout was Nucky fearing that Owen didn't know his place. Roland as the third party gave them the opportunity to play off that. When they left the cellar, you knew Nucky had two choices: kill Roland for stealing from him and so he doesn't fuck him over again, or hire him because he's got skills.
But there were certain hints in the dialogue that made me certain that Nucky would kill him, most importantly Roland saying: "How else are you supposed to get ahead?'
Ambition and independence, precisely what Nucky hates with subordinates.
I came to this thread to ask that question. I knew it was his voice but I'm so use to them using music from that time (do they or am I making that up?) that I wasn't completely sure.
HBO really loves The National!
ryutaro's mama
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How many people here think Gyp survives the season?
I have had a disagreement with a friend. He thinks that Gyp has to go because Nucky has to cement himself back as a top boss. He has shown weakness this season and Gyp is the path to that.
My take is they have spent waaaaay too much time building his character and he is the top heel on the show right now. It would make no sense to off him as he's making his rise to infamy.
I think Gyp (as crazy and self obsessed as he is) would make a play against his boss in an attempt to be the 'general' (as he did when he stole the hat).
Gyp's insecurity will be his undoing but, imo, not this season.
I have had a disagreement with a friend. He thinks that Gyp has to go because Nucky has to cement himself back as a top boss. He has shown weakness this season and Gyp is the path to that.
My take is they have spent waaaaay too much time building his character and he is the top heel on the show right now. It would make no sense to off him as he's making his rise to infamy.
I think Gyp (as crazy and self obsessed as he is) would make a play against his boss in an attempt to be the 'general' (as he did when he stole the hat).
Gyp's insecurity will be his undoing but, imo, not this season.
ryutaro's mama
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It's fine that you're wrong, but do you have to be a dick at the same time?
Do you not remember the episode that well? A significant theme throughout was Nucky fearing that Owen didn't know his place. Roland as the third party gave them the opportunity to play off that. When they left the cellar, you knew Nucky had two choices: kill Roland for stealing from him and so he doesn't fuck him over again, or hire him because he's got skills.
But there were certain hints in the dialogue that made me certain that Nucky would kill him, most importantly Roland saying: "How else are you supposed to get ahead?'
Ambition and independence, precisely what Nucky hates with subordinates.
No one ever said that Nucky wouldn't kill Roland.
I admitted that he wasn't long term.
What I've talked about is you seeing it coming like it played out, in that moment.
That's fascinating.
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