Bumblebeetuna
Member
Yes, because only good things sell. No one should be playing anything but Call of Duty, Fortnite, and Minecraft.
Transformers 5 outgrossed Shawshank by like 12 times over because it was a much better movie
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Yes, because only good things sell. No one should be playing anything but Call of Duty, Fortnite, and Minecraft.
Transformers 5 outgrossed Shawshank by like 12 times over because it was a much better movie
ethomaz
Banned
That is the point PlayStation is made for PlayStation fans... we don’t need to play with others bases.
If you want to play with us feel free to buy a PlayStation... we will happily welcome you without need that bullshit crossplay excuse.
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I don't have time for your autism today.
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ethomaz
Banned
That is fine... just let us without bullshit crossplay is good excuse...
I never expected non PS players to try to influence what is good for PS players.
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Barakov
Gold Member
I'm alright with this. This is a series I've always played solo and cross play is really only necessary for BRs and fighting games. And tbh, only games with low player bases are the only ones that need it. Cross play should be something that extends the life of a dying game rather than a catch-all solution.
zaanan
Banned
The hell it is.
The only reason the example is older is because that was the last time they were in a position of strength (at least in USA). Make no mistake: Microsoft would never promote crossplay if they were still on top. They are historically one of the most anticompetitive corporations in the software industry, and have been sued etc many times for abuses of their dominant market position. All this is directly applicable to the current topic; it is simply in their DNA.
Historically. Cool. They're also a different company than before and are very open source and linux friendly. MS under Satya is very different under Gates or Balmer. It's still irrelevant to pull up what MS did 10 years ago compared to what EVERYONE ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY is doing now
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Im not surprised that he is defending it. Sony could sell him a literal shit sandwich and he’d find a way to spin it. “The shit doesn’t smell as bad as I thought it would! The corn is fresh and mostly intact.”
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Lets not pretend like people are playing Borderlands 3 these days.
Bryank75
Banned
Fact is PlayStation has the biggest player bases for most games like this... Destiny, BL, Genshin, Fortnite etc.
They should leverage their position, so that if you want to be in the most vibrant and active multiplayer scene, then you have to buy a PlayStation.
It's far more likely people buy a PlayStation due to this policy than the other way round.
SteelCurtain 59
Member
1. I've never seen evidence that Sony was in favor of crossplay with Xbox in the PS3 days, just that they would do PC crossplay (which matches their current opinion on crossplay)
2. Treating a giant company like a singular person and acting like complete changes in leadership can't or won't change how a company operates, is quite a foolish opinion
3. If in the future Xbox decides they don't want crossplay anymore, guess what, people will start hating on Xbox for doing that, so who cares about a hypothetical situation in the future. It's like you're trying to justify a pro-company anti-consumer move just because your favorite company is the one doing it, instead of caring about what is OBJECTIVELY a pro consumer move with no possible negative effects for you as a consumer, so why are you so against it?
Also this notion that Xbox players are desperately in need of crossplay because of low player counts is hilariously misguided and nothing but fanboy-driven nonsense, crossplay allows friends to play with each other, and allows dying games to last longer (or even thrive) on every platform, the ONLY potential downside to crossplay is PC crossplay (which Sony has no problem with btw), in terms of keyboard+mouse and potentially more hackers, but even that gets overexaggerated.
I hope every single company does this and makes it very clear that Sony is the reason for no crossplay, so Sony is forced to stop with their nonsense policy that hurts the industry just because they're worried that people might game more on other platforms if they aren't held hostage by Sony. And I promise you that I wanted crossplay just as much in the 360 era, just in case you try and argue that I only want crossplay because Xbox is "losing".
Newsflash, it's possible to be in favor of a decision Xbox makes and against a decision Playstation makes, and STILL BE A PLAYSTATION GAMER, I swear some people here seem to base their opinions on a decision based solely on which company made it (and yes Xbox fanboys are just as bad, but this is a heavily Sony slanted forum so the Playstation fanboys are more prevalent here)
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This is a Microsoft that turned around both Gabe and Tim Sweeney's, realised that they make a bigger difference to all users by actually contributing to the Chromium project and make it great.
Also its irrelevant to whether Microsoft was shit before cause people were criticising them ( I was a 9 year old roughly at the time of the anti-trust case so unlikely to be complaining at that age).
Umbasaborne
Banned
#4theplayers!!! And remember, please be nice to sony. They never deserve any criticism, they are the best and do nothing wrong! Im naming my first borne ken.
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93xfan
Banned
Bad to have a platform holder discouraging it. Smaller titles I don’t have as large of a fan base may have trouble keeping the communities active, where they otherwise would not have
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Sony stay winning. This shit is really a shame. We have people at work who play cod on all platforms it’s great that we can all jump on cod and play where we want.
hopefully this gets resolved soon.
hopefully this gets resolved soon.
CrashNBurn_281
Member
Shit move Sony.
wipeout364
Member
So ridiculous, why would you not want the biggest number of players possible to reduce wait times, improve matchmaking and in particular skill based matchmaking.
I am a PlayStation owner and I want cross play so don’t lump me into in with your bullshit “PlayStation fans only want to play with PlayStation people”. I play on all 4 systems and I want cross play and cross progression every place it’s technically possible.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
How are they discouraging cross play?
ethomaz
Banned
Because I never had these issues to begin with... it is no my issue if you play in another platforms.
Fix the matchmaking to be faster.
Makes the game more popular.
Makes better gameplay mechanics.
No, instead hide behind crossplay bandaid narrative lol
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ethomaz
Banned
I defend what is good for gamers even if against Sony.Im not surprised that he is defending it. Sony could sell him a literal shit sandwich and he’d find a way to spin it. “The shit doesn’t smell as bad as I thought it would! The corn is fresh and mostly intact.”
Crossplay the opposite is bad for gamers.
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wipeout364
Member
Please explain why crossplay is bad?
drganon
Member
Nah, Microsoft is still a shit company. They've just gotten better at pr.
MScarpa
Member
Shots fired! I love that game
01011001
Banned
dreamcast had PC crossplay in Quake 2
PS2, PC AND 360 had crossplay in Final Fantasy XI
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demigod
Member
That’s what you think. Your two friends will be buying it and playing it without you, lol.
demigod
Member
You are always wrong. Final Fantasy XI says hi. It’s time to stop console warring at your age.
martino
Member
no. and to prevent this kind of problem since i buy all multiplat on pc i will use my influence to make them buy a xbox this gen.
MScarpa
Member
Damn someone is unhappy.
drganon
Member
Not really. Sony sucks too, if that makes you feel better. I'm just not gonna pretend Microsoft aren't the same shit company they've always been, Bill Gates or not.
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ethomaz
Banned
- Different play field, unfair advantages or disadvantages.
- Unfair monetization across different platforms.
- Cheaters / Malicious code.
- Removed choice for players (you are forced to be into crossplay in most if not all games)
I can go on... all the issues with Crossplay where already explained dozen of times.
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MScarpa
Member
You know, its important to not carry around t all this hate and disdain. Not good for your health my friend. Learn to love and appreciate things. Could be a lot worse.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
My wife would use crossplay a ton from Playstation, as it's her main console and we have friends on Xbox.
Ironically.. she bought an Xbox... to deal with that lol
Lack of crossplay sells Xboxs too.
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ethomaz
Banned
That is fine.
She can buy what she wants... that is how it always worked.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
EDMIX
Member
Agreed.
Sony supported cross play for several generations ahead of the competition with shit like FFXI, DC Universe etc From PS2, PSP, Vita, PS3, PS4 etc. No one gave a shit, yet suddenly Sony says no to a few games and now Cross play is the G.O.A.T lol When the generation started and they literally had several games cross play, no one really gave a shit and it wasn't some massive deal breaker or anything remotely like that.
PlayStation 4 Launch Titles - PlayStation 4 Guide - IGN
The PlayStation 4 Launch Titles list features both the games available on launch day (November 15th in the US and the 29th in other 31 countries) and in the
Several on that list are cross play. They bring up Cross play ZERO TIMES, but shit, its just a list, lets look at a review of that launch in general.
Polygon's PlayStation 4 Review
In the seven years since the introduction of the PlayStation 3, we've seen our gaming consoles transform into living room hubs through constant evolution and software updates. Those updates weren't always smooth – though on PS3, they were always happening – but it's easy to see just how far the...
www.polygon.com
https://kotaku.com/all-24-of-the-ps4s-launch-games-reviewed-1464421841
The word cross play is not stated once, but shit...they don't even bring up the fact that several of those games can be played with PC players even if they don't say the damn term. So how fucking important was it that you could play with different install bases with Warthunder, Warframe? Clearly not that important, but suddenly its not a deal breaker when no one said shit about this when they literally launched with cross play titles. Those articles show clearly, it wasn't a hot topic, it wasn't a big deal, it wasn't some revolutionary idea and it wasn't some massive issue.
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drganon
Member
You're not my friend, buddy.
Iced Arcade
Member
Yes the deserve boats of cash for that lol. You kids are hilarious with the defenses Yas come up with.
ethomaz
Banned
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ManaByte
Gold Member
EverQuest? What are you talking about? The PS2 EverQuest was a game called EverQuest Online Adventures that was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the PC game (it was set 500 years earlier) and was only on the PS2 and no other platform.
Brofist
Member
I couldn't give 2 fucks about cross play personally, I've never played a major game online on the PC that I found difficulty in finding other people to play with online.
But the bs spin in here is ridiculous. You wanna play with the exclusive PS player base you have to join our exclusivecult club. Imagine thinking owning a few hundred dollar plastic shit box makes you part of an exclusive club now.
But the bs spin in here is ridiculous. You wanna play with the exclusive PS player base you have to join our exclusive
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MScarpa
Member
The hypocrisy in this post is unbelievable. Spin it however you want my man.
MScarpa
Member
Will, don't lie, you know were friends. Don't lie buddy
Hawking Radiation
Member
The usual 10 people on this board moaning like little bitches at Sony about Cross Play again when the rest of the gaming community (including other platforms) have been doing fine without it for decades.
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Krappadizzle
Member
Yeah, nobody should ever complain if things have been a certain way for decades yeah?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
remember when you got caught in 4k lying about crossplay in SFV?
The train of thought from the video was borderlands 3 publisher saw that epic had a 15% revenue split figure that came out during the trial, borderlands 3 might have been on a bigger percentage and after seeing what epic got they wanted a better deal. When they couldn't get that they told gearbox not to put crossplay in the playstation version. It has some logic to it, but obviously it's all speculation.