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Brave Neptunia gets censored on PS4, Switch uncensored
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JunkerWoland
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The OneAngryGamer headline and the article's related information is misleading. There is currently no Switch version of the game. Yuusha Neptunia was only released in Japan on the PS4, while a Western release coming 2019 was announced for the PS4 and Switch.
What's being referenced as the unaltered Switch version of the hot springs scene is the promotional image offered as a preorder cloth-poster from the store Animate. The article also references another image being censored (of the character Vert playing video games); again, what's being called the unaltered image is a preorder postcard from the online store Chara-Ani.com.
While I've no desire to defend Sony, we don't actually know if the preorder items are how those images were always meant to be displayed in-game. For example, the article claims the Vert image was cropped, so her panties were no longer visible; however, this image remains unaltered in the game, after fears it was censored due the state of its appearance on the Japanese Playstation website.
Chances are, unless a Japanese Switch release is subsequently announced, we'll likely never know for certain whether there's been Sony interference, since I doubt Idea Factory/Compile Heart will make changes to a Western-exclusive Switch release.
What's being referenced as the unaltered Switch version of the hot springs scene is the promotional image offered as a preorder cloth-poster from the store Animate. The article also references another image being censored (of the character Vert playing video games); again, what's being called the unaltered image is a preorder postcard from the online store Chara-Ani.com.
While I've no desire to defend Sony, we don't actually know if the preorder items are how those images were always meant to be displayed in-game. For example, the article claims the Vert image was cropped, so her panties were no longer visible; however, this image remains unaltered in the game, after fears it was censored due the state of its appearance on the Japanese Playstation website.
Chances are, unless a Japanese Switch release is subsequently announced, we'll likely never know for certain whether there's been Sony interference, since I doubt Idea Factory/Compile Heart will make changes to a Western-exclusive Switch release.
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Vawn
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Seriously. The Internet needs conspiracies to outrage over that they'll manufacture them from nothing.
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Forgive me for my lack of knowledge -- how old are those depicted characters?
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
You never fail, 'pachi
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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Ulysses 31
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Sqorin Hammerfarf
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You can only see the vagina bones in one of them.
Would you say there is a plethora of underage-looking anime skin for you perverts to yank off to?
Ulysses 31
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Because he can read your mind and judge you for it. >.>
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
I'll not about to de-rail this thread... I get it. They're cartoons, it's "not perverted," it's my anime leemeelone, whatever (to whom it applies). I will bail in good faith.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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I'm in my mid-forties, and I always thought one of the advantages of getting older would be people stop treating me like a child. But what I've found is, the older I get, the more people treat me like a child. I can't enjoy what I want, I can't eat what I want, I can't do what I want, I can't think what I want, and I can't be who I want. And yet, when it's time to change my diaper, none of these assholes are around to help.
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
I've been cry-laughing this whole time. You need to stop,
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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God damn, got me again. That vis_name tag is starting to piss me off.I've been cry-laughing this whole time. You need to stop,
The Mad Draklor
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My projection senses are tingling...
iconmaster
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I know that I do not have your superior intellect...
Mecha Meow
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While I do like cute loli/moe anime stuff, I in no way get off on it nor have I ever yanked off to such shit. I'm not a fan of the naked scenes myself but eh, I don't mind that they're there either.
I have always hated censorship in games/anime/manga and people telling me what I can enjoy however.
That hasn't changed for me since the early 90s, nor will it ever.
1inthechamber_
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Amazing. Another win for Sony.
Really don't care for any anime or shit like that. But censoring the devs original vision of the game no matter how offensive or whatever it is to someone, is lame af.
In the wise words of EA "Dont like it, dont buy it".
This censor garbage is going to make them lose 3rd party sales to other consoles.
Really don't care for any anime or shit like that. But censoring the devs original vision of the game no matter how offensive or whatever it is to someone, is lame af.
In the wise words of EA "Dont like it, dont buy it".
This censor garbage is going to make them lose 3rd party sales to other consoles.
bitbydeath
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They’re both censored, why is Sony the only one being called out for it?
Ancient Dragon
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Knew it! PS4 is for little kids.
Adults that can appreciate the art known as Hentai go for the Switch!
Adults that can appreciate the art known as Hentai go for the Switch!
Codes 208
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FFA
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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I've invented an imaginary child. His name is Poquito and he is an eight year old little boy with cerebral palsy. Unfortunately for him, his imaginary well being depends entirely on video games no longer having walking simulators. You see, he was orphaned at a young age by a walking simulator, which did unspeakable acts to him, such as forcing him to walk great lengths while a disembodied voice droned on or forcing him to watch as it gave other kids piggyback rides while Poquito was forced to walk. Seeing the joy on the faces of the kids, knowing that he, himself, would never know such joy was too much for him. Poquito took his own imaginary life using a spatula of unreasonable size and heft.
Please, for the sake of other imaginary children like Poquito, we must not let his imaginary suffering go unheard. We must end the blight that is walking simulators from gaming forever, thus robbing game journalists of the only genre of games they can win. Surely, if we care about the well being of imaginary anime children, then we must also be moved to action by Poquito's memory.
Here lies Poquito. December 24, 2019 - December 24, 2019. Requiescat in pace.
Please, for the sake of other imaginary children like Poquito, we must not let his imaginary suffering go unheard. We must end the blight that is walking simulators from gaming forever, thus robbing game journalists of the only genre of games they can win. Surely, if we care about the well being of imaginary anime children, then we must also be moved to action by Poquito's memory.
Here lies Poquito. December 24, 2019 - December 24, 2019. Requiescat in pace.
Stuart360
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Probably the same reason why you, and many others, would be in here saying how terrible it was if it was Microsoft doing this, personal bias.
bitbydeath
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Eh, I’m not one to care/comment on what other companies do that doesn’t involve Sony in some manner.
At least not in a negative way.
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CatCouch
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Sony is being called out because they now require developers to edit their games beyond previously understood regulations all consoles have been following. Unlike most of the past, Sony has stricter policies for what can release on their platform than their competitors and, frustratingly, those policies have not been made public. I can think of a few examples of similar happening before, namely Sony censoring nudity in BMX XXX (Gamecube/Xbox versions are unedited) and Microsoft requiring camera changes for Gal*Gun on the 360 (PS3 version is unedited). Those were individual games, though, not a whole platform restriction. Sony has required editing for quite a few games now, some of which are available uncensored on PC and the Switch.
Nintendo did similar in the 90's before we had rating systems but have not touched 3rd party games since, IIRC. There have been localization changes that amount to censorship in many's eyes but Sony requires these changes world-wide. Pretty big difference, there is no import option now.
For me Sony has reduced the value of their console since these games are a big selling point to me, perhaps even the main selling point as they inspire my own art. Yes, people do love these games and they are heavily based on sexy and ecchi art(defined as slang for "playfully sexual actions" by wikipedia) so censoring them is an issue. Even Nintendo stopped doing this with western localization's of games recently. I'm not sure what Sony is hoping to achieve here, honestly.
This is all probably obvious stuff but I still want to write it down for any who don't follow Japanese game news! Feel free to correct anything I may have wrong~
bitbydeath
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Sure, but in this case they are both censored and neither show nudity.
CatCouch
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Not really. The original art shown never had a nude version so it's not censored. If Sony required them to put more steam in then I consider than censorship. Drawing a picture with implied nudity doesn't mean it was censored if that was the original intent.
mckmas8808
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I swear people are amazing. This is the hill that many are dying on? LOL!
Ulysses 31
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The freedom of expression hill? Anytime.
Bagofdicks
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"Vagina bones" I'm stealing that. Thank you.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yes that hill. Sony isn't making it illegal for the game to come out uncensored world-wide and on all platforms. Just their platform. It's okay that you don't like that "form" of censorship, but I'd rather give corporations that "right" to censor what they want to censor on THEIR console.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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Just like Nintendo did in Tokyo Mirage Sessions...
Endless Fluff
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Yes, for now we see the multiplats on other platforms with no censorship, but who's to say that Sony doesn't cook up some contract saying "absolute parity of all version if you want to release on our console!"
It wouldn't be unheard of
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-supposedly-forced-parity-on-division-1.1465458/
So, yeah. If the market leader implements some bullshit policies to censor games for their platform, everyone should be at least a little worried about the implications that might have on a wider scale.
Kdad
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The creators of the game are free to express themselves all they want (within the legal paramters of whatever country they are distributing in). SONY is under no obligation to provide a platform for that expression. This isn't hard.
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Looked at the source and now I see why OP posted the source at the very bottom. I did not have to read the second post to figure out it’s a terrible article from a questionable source. It reads like a random forum post and a terrible one at that. Still, if this was written better, it could definite fool people had it not been for JunkerWolans coming in just time.
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Ulysses 31
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I was seeing it more as calling Sony prudes than as an issue of that Sony should be forced to publish certain content. I support the right to gate keep what you allow in your private domain up to a point where it becomes detrimental to society.
Virex
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Anime vaginas have bones?
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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It depends on whether Sony had an agreement with these companies before, then changed the agreement later. Like if something like Senran Kagura was created for the PS4 using standards that previous games did, then was told a month before release to remove a feature due to new standards. That’d be pretty fucked up, right? Or a game being RELEASED in China, then forcing them to update the game with a patch to remove a feature after launch that ended up making the game unwinnable. It could happen.
In the future, fan service games will avoid releasing on the PS4 completely, but for now, games are being censored too late in their development to jump ship.
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Aurelian
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If you'd paid attention earlier in the thread it's not actually clear that Sony is demanding the game be toned down in the first place. It's a sensationalist piece based on dodgy interpretations.
And whether it is or not, I don't think Sony would be prudish to suggest that hey, maybe you shouldn't include sexualized images of girls that appear underage. I know the anime world blurs the line on ages a bit, but they sure don't look like adults to me.
Ulysses 31
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It's not a stretch to assume that if only the PS4 version gets additional censorship compared to other versions. And by now there's plenty of examples of PS4 versions getting censored the most of all multiplat versions.
Kdad
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And it is still a private issue between two companies....it isn't "censorship!!!OMFGBBQ". If your local store doesn't carry the canned peaches you like...you go to a different store.
Aurelian
my friends call me "Cunty"
It's not a stretch, but you don't know that's the case here. That's the point. You're acting as if it's a done deal when you're really just being frothed into an outrage by OAG.
The Mad Draklor
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I'll give you a hint: degree (see definition #3).
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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I'm getting a little sick of being lectured on censorship by people who obviously don't have a god damn clue what censorship is. Now, it's my turn to lecture you. A private issue between two companies is still "censorship!!!OMFGBBQ" because private companies can still censor each other, and a store not carrying canned peaches is a fucking different issue than the store forcing the canned peaches to replace the peaches with ham if they want to be carried by the store. The fact that you don't realize this means... you know what? Fuck it.
I don't demand that everybody I discuss censorship with be a constitutional scholar, but I can not stand people who revel in ignorance while trying to shame everybody else. If you want to join a conversation at the adult table, you need to put your big boy pants on. You need to bring something better than trite platitudes and shame if you want to join this conversation. That kind of shit ruined NeoGAF once before. Let's not go down that road again.