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|OT| British Election mega-thread - 12th December 2019 : Let's try again, again.

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Not confirmed yet so we'll see. Also rumours that Boris wants to introduce an elected HoL so let's see how things pan out.
Now confirmed


So Goldsmith has lost his seat twice as well as his campaign for mayor and gets made a peer for life. I wonder if being a close personal friend of Boris’ girlfriend played any factor in getting that.
 

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So Goldsmith has lost his seat twice as well as his campaign for mayor and gets made a peer for life. I wonder if being a close personal friend of Boris’ girlfriend played any factor in getting that.
FFS Boris - this shit isn't clever.
 
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Pretty ambitious program - a lot to like in there.

Brexit

Withdrawal Agreement Bill

Central to the Queen’s Speech is the commitment to implement the Brexit deal struck with the EU in October. However the bill will be different from the version brought before MPs last time round with some compromises on issues such as workers rights and Parliamentary scrutiny over the next stage of negotiations stripped out.

Agriculture Bill
Replaces the EU Common Agricultural Policy with a post-Brexit system of subsidies that rewards farmers for promoting biodiversity and access to the countryside, rather than yield.

Fisheries Bill
Creates licensing powers for fishing rights after Britain leaves the EU fisheries policy. Foreign boats no longer have automatic access to UK waters. Legal commitments to ensure sustainable fisheries.

Trade Bill
Rolls over existing EU trade deals after Brexit.

Immigration Bill
Introduces the government’s new Australian style points system that will apply to anyone wanting to enter the country from the end of next year. It will end free movement of people and change the rights of immigrants to access benefits.

Financial Services Bill
Confirms UK financial rules after Brexit and promises to simplify rules on selling overseas investment funds.

Private International Law Bill
Implements international agreements on rules governing cross-border legal disputes to clarify dispute resolution after Brexit.

Home Affairs

Police Powers Bill

Gives police greater powers to criminalise travellers who set up unauthorised encampments and allows them to seize their property and vehicles.

Counter Terrorism Bill
Bring in tougher sentences for the most serious terrorist offenders with a 14-year minimum following the London Bridge attacks. It would also remove early release for prisoners who receive extended determinate sentences. Licencing supervision for terrorist offenders will also be strengthened.

Sentencing bill
Serious violent and sex offenders will face longer sentences, with the automatic release point rising from halfway through their jail term to two thirds. The bill increases the range of reasons for giving murderers “whole life” sentences, meaning they will never be eligible for parole, including child murder. Community orders will also be strengthened to ensure they deliver an “appropriate level of punishment”.

Sentencing Consolidation Bill
Allows judges to implement the Law Commissions sentencing code that will consolidate the law on sentencing procedure in England and Wales.

Foreign National Offenders Bill
Increases sentences for serious foreign criminals, including rapists and child abusers, who return to the UK in breach of deportation orders from a matter of weeks to years.

Prisoners (disclosure of information about victims) Bill
Murderers will be denied parole if they fail to disclose where they have buried their victims. Paedophiles will also be denied parole if they fail to disclose the identities of children they have abused.

Serious Violence Bill
Places a statutory duty on public bodies to work together to reduce the levels of serious violence.

Criminal Justice Bill
Tougher sentences for people found guilty of assaulting a police officer have been dropped after clashes between the home office and ministry of justice. The police covenant, focusing on the physical protection of officers, will be enshrined in law.

Special constables will be allowed to join the Police Federation so they can benefit from additional protection and support.

Extradition (Provisional Arrest) Bill
In the event Britain is no longer able to access the European Arrest Warrant after Brexit, the bill will replicate its powers while allowing arrest of people wanted by “trusted partners”.

National Security and Investment Bill
More powers for the state to intervene in takeovers by “hostile parties” where there are national security implications.

Electoral Integrity Bill
New legal requirement for voters to produce photographic ID before casting their vote and limit number of relatives who can act as a proxy.

Espionage Legislation
Plans to criminalise “harmful activity” on behalf of other states to prevent spying. Will also look to update the UK’s treason laws and the Official Secrets Act and consider a compulsory register of those lobbying on behalf of foreign powers.

Royal Commission on the Criminal Justice Process
A “fundamental review” of the effectiveness of the courts system to be set up, the first since 1991. Constitution, Democracy and Rights commission set up to “develop proposals to restore trust in our institutions and in how our democracy operate”. Includes repeal of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act

English devolution
White paper to hand powers to the regions, boosting the number of mayors and giving greater autonomy to combined authorities. It includes a promise to find a way to end “vexatious litigation” against military veterans.

There are also plans to create a new shared prosperity fund to replace EU structural funds after Brexit and to be made available across the UK.

Boycott ban
Prevents councils, universities and other public bodies waging boycotts, divestment and sanctions campaigns against foreign countries, notably Israel.

NHS and health

NHS Funding Bill

Enshrining annual budget increases promised by Theresa May, which will reach £20.5 billion in real terms by 2023-24, or £34 billion in cash terms

NHS reorganisation
A commitment to “draft legislation” to remove elements of competition requirements from the NHS to make it easier for organisations to work together to join up care. There will also be a pledge to update the Mental Health Act intended to reduce the number of detentions made under the act.

Medicines and Medical Devices Bill
Powers to prescribe some medicines will be handed to a wider range of health professionals to ease pressure on doctors and nurses. A registration scheme for online sellers will be set up to crack down on fake drugs. Clinical trial red tape will be cut as Britain leaves EU rules, aiming to make it attractive to test new medicines — and medical AI — in this country.

Social Care
Repeat of the Conservative manifesto promise to start looking for a cross-party solution to shield people from catastrophic care costs so that no one has to sell their home. In the interim £500 million a year will be put in to prop up the current system.

Health Service Safety Investigations Bill
This legislation would enshrine the existing Healthcare Safety Investigation Branch as a legally independent Health Service Safety Investigations Body (HSSIB) with the ability to keep secret anything doctors and nurses tell it in order to create a “safe space” for them to speak honestly about mistakes.

Society

Divorce Bill

Introducing no fault divorces by removing the requirement for a prolonged period of separation or a claim of “fault” before a divorse can be granted.

Online Harms
A duty of care will be imposed on social media companies, overseen by an independent regulator, to prevent cyberbullying, child sex abuse and terrorist propaganda. Plans out for consultation.

Employment Bill
Obliges all firms to pass on the full value of tips, service charges and gratuities to staff without deduction. Extends redundancy protections to pregnant women and makes flexible working the “default” for all workers unless employers have good reason to refuse. Workers would have the right request a more predictable contract. Parents of sick babies will be allowed extended leave and unpaid carers will be entitled to week’s leave. There will also be a new single workers rights enforcement body.

Renters’ Reform Bill
Makes “no fault” evictions illegal while setting up a new lifetime deposit scheme that could transfer between properties. There will also be a new register of rogue landlords. Landlords promised a streamlined court process to get their properties back.

Housing
Promise to consult on 30 per cent discount for local people and key workers buying a first home. New shared ownership and affordable house building programme also promised. Planning white paper to make building easier and £10 billion for schools and GPs around new developments.

Pension Schemes Bill
Prison sentences for employers who are reckless with employee pension schemes will be among powers given to the Pensions Regulator. Clear information in a “pensions dashboard” has also been promised to savers along with new rights to transfer money to another pension scheme.

Domestic Abuse Bill
Creates a statutory definition of domestic abuse, emphasising that it is not just physical but can also be emotional, coercive or economic abuse. Establishes a domestic abuse commissioner to represent victims and survivors, raise public awareness and hold public bodies to account. Creates a statutory presumption that victims of domestic abuse will be given special support in criminal courts, such as the ability to give evidence by video link

Domestic abusers will be banned from cross-examining their victims in court.

Divorce, Dissolution and Separation Bill
An introduction of no-fault divorce, removing the requirement that one spouse must make an allegation about the other’s conduct to end a marriage. It will also remove the possibility of one spouse contesting the decision to divorce. There will be a new option to make a joint application to divorce in cases where the decision to divorce is a mutual one.

Confirmation that the schools budget will increase by £4.3 billion in real terms by 2022-23. The government expresses this as a cumulative cash boost of £14 billion over three years.

Reiteration of promises to raise the minimum wage to £10.50 an hour and increase the threshold for national insurance contributions.

Promise of a national disability strategy next year to people into work

Plans to update business rates to increase the retail discount to fifty per cent to ease pressures on high street stories.

Environment

Environment Bill

This legislation will commit the government to legally binding targets to reduce air pollution. It also includes further measures to tackle plastics waste, including charges for single use, building on the plastic bag charge, and improve water quality. Powers will also be brought forward to allow government to mandate the recall of vehicles which do not meet emissions standards.

Climate change
The government says it will bring forward a series of measures in the budget to ensure it can meet its target to make the UK carbon neutral by 2050.

Animal welfare
Increases the maximum sentence for animal cruelty from six months to five years. Consultations on improving welfare of live animal transport, a ban on keeping monkeys as pets and the import and export of hunting trophies.

Scandal clear-up

Windrush Compensation Scheme Bill

Legal powers to pay out compensation for people who were denied services or jobs because they came from a Commonwealth country before 1973 and could not prove eligibility under the “hostile environment” policy designed to crack down on illegal immigration.

Building Safety Bill
Plans for new building safety regulations to prevent a repeat of the Grenfell Tower fire of 2017, which killed 72 people.

It will provide “clearer accountability” and impose “stronger duties” on those responsible for the safety of high-rise buildings. Residents will be given a “stronger voice” in the system, while enforcement and sanctions will be strengthened to “deter non-compliance”.

Fire Safety Bill
Another piece of post Grenfell legislation would give fire services powers to take enforcement action against buildings with dangerous cladding and fire doors.

Infrastructure and transport

Railways (minimum service levels) legislation

Legal minimum services required during rail strikes to be set down in law, including specifications for staff who must work

Scrapping the rail franchise system The government will commit to ending the system of rail franchising introduced as part of 1990 privatisation and replace it with a new model focusing on performance and reliability. It is expected to build on recommendations in a review into the system being carried out by the Williams Rail Review that was established under Theresa May.

Air traffic management and unmanned aircraft bill
New powers for the police to tackle the unlawful use of drones and other unmanned aircraft. Ministers will also get powers to be able to direct airports to change the design of airspace, following warnings if reforms are not made by by 2030 1 in 3 flights could be delayed for an average of 30 minutes.

Broadband legislation
New legislation to fulfil the Government’s pledge to roll out superfast, one gigabit broadband across the UK by 2025 including amending building regulations.

Airline Insolvency
New powers to ensure holidaymakers will not be stranded abroad if their airline collapses.

National Infrastructure Strategy
Promised alongside the budget in February with an aim of “levelling up and connecting every part of the country” as well as reducing carbon emissions

Rail reform and High Speed 2 Bill
Reforms the rail franchising system and opens up lines and stations that have been closed. Will also improve rail services in the North and Midlands. Powers to build phase two of the high-speed rail link between London and the North. However, this is “without prejudice” to a review on whether it should go ahead

Space, science and research
Doubling R&D spending and creating a national space council. Prioritising government investment in areas where the UK can gain a competitive advantage, such as clean energy, space, robotics and artificial intelligence.

Birmingham Commonwealth Games Bill
Allowing extra cash to be given to running the 2022 games and banning unauthorised sales of tickets
 
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Doubling R&D spending and creating a national space council. Prioritising government investment in areas where the UK can gain a competitive advantage, such as clean energy, space, robotics and artificial intelligence.
That is a game changer. Britain has always led the way in technology but we have fallen by the way-side. Giving grants and allowing more investment in robotics and AI will really see Britain sore. Remember, the ARM processor was built by a few blokes in a shed and sold for billions.

I've no doubt a few scots, some old blokes in Yorkshire and a team of young lads in Birmingham, working in a shed, could come up with some fantastic innovations
 

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That is a game changer. Britain has always led the way in technology but we have fallen by the way-side. Giving grants and allowing more investment in robotics and AI will really see Britain sore. Remember, the ARM processor was built by a few blokes in a shed and sold for billions.

I've no doubt a few scots, some old blokes in Yorkshire and a team of young lads in Birmingham, working in a shed, could come up with some fantastic innovations
There's a lot of joined-up thinking in that set of bills. With a majority to get shit done, Britain has a good shot at being great again.
 

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English devolution has been a long time coming (and I'm not English). Areas outside of London deserve to have more autonomy similar to how Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland do.
 

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That is a game changer. Britain has always led the way in technology but we have fallen by the way-side. Giving grants and allowing more investment in robotics and AI will really see Britain sore. Remember, the ARM processor was built by a few blokes in a shed and sold for billions.
Only trouble is we have a scientific & academic class who are completely opposed to Brexit, so will probably spend most of the next 10yrs still sulking over it.
 

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Only trouble is we have a scientific & academic class who are completely opposed to Brexit, so will probably spend most of the next 10yrs still sulking over it.
They're opposed to Brexit because they suckled the teet of the EU (a clever choice from the EU - fund all the influencers from our own money to create dependency). When they realise the money tap is controlled by Boris they'll soon change their tune.
 

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Zac Goldsmith is an inspiration to us all.

Ah, the strategy of connecting with their new found northern working class voters in action.

Much humbleness. Many subtlety.

Just when you needed to be reminded that underneath the daft haircut and dopey grin, the tories still gonna tory.

Well done Boris!
 
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I'll take what Zac has done to earn a peerage over Chakrabarti getting hers for an Anti-Semitism smokescreen.
 
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British lawmakers overwhelmingly voted to approve Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new Brexit deal Friday, marking a moment of triumph days after winning a commanding parliamentary majority.

Members of Parliament voted 358 to 234 to send Johnson’s Withdrawal Agreement Bill to the next phase of more scrutiny and possible amendments before the House of Lords approves it.

Johnson ran last week’s general election on a promise to end more than three years of political gridlock and lead Britain out of the European Union on Jan. 31.
 

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British lawmakers overwhelmingly voted to approve Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new Brexit deal Friday, marking a moment of triumph days after winning a commanding parliamentary majority.

Members of Parliament voted 358 to 234 to send Johnson’s Withdrawal Agreement Bill to the next phase of more scrutiny and possible amendments before the House of Lords approves it.

Johnson ran last week’s general election on a promise to end more than three years of political gridlock and lead Britain out of the European Union on Jan. 31.
Megaton if it passes through. I hope it restores the UK's faith in democracy. I'm rootin for you over here.
 
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it'll pass straight through like a dodgy kebab, don't you worry
I don't expect it to be perfect. Quite the opposite, I expect the USA to take full advantage of you in a trade deal that, yeah, helps reinvigorate the UK economy but also probably makes New York your new financial center instead of London. I do legitimately have high hopes for your country based on this direction, but that isn't the heart of my point.

The election blowout was a week or two ago? As an outside observer, seeing this plan get passed so quickly after election is remarkable. Consider my viewpoint from the partisan, deadlocked US politics. It's just amazing to witness it from across the pond. Democracy works. We need to stop attempting to tear it down.
 
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I don't expect it to be perfect. Quite the opposite, I expect the USA to take full advantage of you in a trade deal that, yeah, helps reinvigorate the UK economy but also probably makes New York your new financial center instead of London. I do legitimately have high hopes for your country based on this direction, but that isn't the heart of my point.

The election blowout was a week or two ago? As an outside observer, seeing this plan get passed so quickly after election is remarkable. Consider my viewpoint from the partisan, deadlocked US politics. It's just amazing to witness it from across the pond. Democracy works. We need to stop attempting to tear it down.
I'm just talking about the bill passing here, I don't have any opinion about the actual outcome of Brexit after the transition period yet...the reason's it's passing is because the government have a majority, it's probably similar to why the impeachment on your side won't pass
 
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I'm just talking about the bill passing here, I don't have any opinion about the actual outcome of Brexit after the transition period yet...the reason's it's passing is because the government have a majority, it's probably similar to why the impeachment on your side won't pass
Yeah I know, but we all know the majority only exists because of the election outcome a week ago. I'm emphasizing that a rapid turnaround like that has not been a regular thing over the past 3 years here, so it's nice to see a democracy get off its butt and commit to the things they were elected to do.
 

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Yeah I know, but we all know the majority only exists because of the election outcome a week ago. I'm emphasizing that a rapid turnaround like that has not been a regular thing over the past 3 years here, so it's nice to see a democracy get off its butt and commit to the things they were elected to do.
We're lucky Corbyn was such a disaster tbh - he inadvertently saved Brexit. My far-left Corbyn-worshipping remoaner work colleague would absolutely spit feathers if I said that in front of him mind...
 

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If labour and the left would have accepted the Brexit vote, without kicking, screaming and trying to block it, they would have probably won that GE.

Funny how things work out. Never sacrifice the war for the sake of retreating from a lost battle.
When you start acting with so much authoritarian hubris, not respecting a democratic vote, you tend to revitalize a dormant voting class. Who would have thunk?
 
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Amusing video. I think Tim's skepticism has transformed into cluelessness which is endemic of the modern left, even the center-left.

He is skeptical it will get done because "c'mon man, it has been years". He is making the same mistake as 2016 voters, assuming that your political opponents do not have the ambition or wherewithal to accomplish things quickly. Sweeping change is a Left-wing thing, right? Decisive voter turnout is a Left-wing thing, right? That's the contradiction in logic and it has turned into a massive blindspot on the Left. Ignore the blind spot and you'll get dozens more Trumps and Borises and Hong Kong protests.

And then lefties are genuinely surprised when they get steamrolled in elections.
 

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Amusing video. I think Tim's skepticism has transformed into cluelessness which is endemic of the modern left, even the center-left.

He is skeptical it will get done because "c'mon man, it has been years". He is making the same mistake as 2016 voters, assuming that your political opponents do not have the ambition or wherewithal to accomplish things quickly. Sweeping change is a Left-wing thing, right? Decisive voter turnout is a Left-wing thing, right? That's the contradiction in logic and it has turned into a massive blindspot on the Left. Ignore the blind spot and you'll get dozens more Trumps and Borises and Hong Kong protests.

And then lefties are genuinely surprised when they get steamrolled in elections.
Tim: "It's complicated!"
 

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After such a monumental week of British politics all I can think of is where the fuck is the guy who's been standing outside the Houses of Parliament for the last three years shouting 'STOP BREXIT' through a giant fucking megaphone.....I hope he's ok...LOL.
On a more serious note.....I can't quite believe I watched that vote finally pass today.....brought a tear to my eye tbh.
 

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After such a monumental week of British politics all I can think of is where the fuck is the guy who's been standing outside the Houses of Parliament for the last three years shouting 'STOP BREXIT' through a giant fucking megaphone.....I hope he's ok...LOL.
On a more serious note.....I can't quite believe I watched that vote finally pass today.....brought a tear to my eye tbh.
 

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Poor sod,I almost feel sorry for him now.....almost,LOL.
I do hope people like this can get their lives back on track now,living your life totally opposed to reality can't be healthy.
 
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So Greta will also be unemployed?

How dare they! How dare they ruin her 15 minutes of fame!
We had those huge green retard protesters that lockdown train stations because those morons don't even know that its the best transportation solution on the least emission output possible.

People started to look who these people where and they all ended on being on this payroll by this extremist enviromental demonstration organisation extrinction rebellion. ( 130 of them )

Sadly for those morons, u cant demonstrate here whenever u feel like it. It has to go through a judge and they will showcase you the spot and time. So they all got arrested by cops and janked out of there.



After they fines got paid towards the governemnt by the organisation they demonstrated for, people started to wonder who these people where and found out they are actually getting paid each month for it. Obviously they littered the place with junk that they didn't clean up themselves ( gotta be good for nature man and emissions), and all had the newest iphone and novelty products that pushes tons of emission forwards + they didn't even fucking carpool with eachother to get at that location. they all drove there with cars that were not even a little bit emission friendly individually.

Sorry but these people are the biggest fucking hypocritical mongols i ever saw.

About greta and her parents, ask her parents to showcase there income all of it publicly. I bet they make bank on propaganda there kid towards those nuts for donations. That's where all those extremist groups relay on. sensation and frustration.

Honestly somebody should just make a organisation to drain those morons that supports these donkeys from there money and actually donate it towards cancer research or something with a big middle finger.
 
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Hold on a second folks, this whole election thing might not be a done deal after all, Brexit can still be stopped!!!!



I hear that this gentleman was once a respected philosopher before he fell victim to Brexit Derangement Syndrome.

Maybe this will help:



Here's the original, for those who missed it first time:

 
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Apparently, until you have a second-thoughts referendum regarding leaving the EU - and, I presume, a vote of "no, no, no, we are going to remain after all", too - you didn't "get" the election process "right" and the elections are probably fake.
 

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Hold on a second folks, this whole election thing might not be a done deal after all, Brexit can still be stopped!!!!



I hear that this gentleman was once a respected philosopher before he fell victim to Brexit Derangement Syndrome.
Surely it’s a parody?