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[Maxy]

Must say that the EA ones are a little unfair. Nowhere did they state that the Ignite Trailer was gameplay.

Kind of like putting a screencap from the Cinematic trailers for Diablo III or World of Warcraft against a screenshot from the games.

 

[Falcs]

Looks like the girl in blue at the front has a twin that's right behind her.

Edit: nvm triplets, to the right there's another one but with a green shirt!

Lol that's hilarious.... How did they find identical octuplets to pose for the crowd?

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[Yonafunu]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

Hahahahahahaha, holy crap

 

[Ingueferroque]

Forza looked like it had a huge lighting downgrade, or was that just a bad comparison shot? Everything looks flat.

 

[Goodacre0081]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

lol holy shit, they look like cardboard cutouts.

maybe MS will reuse these at the XB1 launch party

 

[Jburton]

Forza looked like it had a huge lighting downgrade, or was that just a bad comparison shot? Everything looks flat.

Lighting downgrade, shadows it would seem as well

AA also some have said.

 

[DieH@rd]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Killzone did well imo.

Lol@ the forza crowd.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Must say that the EA ones are a little unfair. Nowhere did they state that the Ignite Trailer was gameplay.

They said it was pre-rendered but they were using real game assets and that what they had at their studio looked as good if not better than those trailers.

 

[EightBitNate]

Lmfao

 

[Damaniel]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

At least tell me those sprites are animated...

God, 2D billboard sprites like that haven't been standard since the freaking PS2 days. Even Gen7 consoles managed to have some games with 3D crowds. Yuck.

 

[Shmuely Bully]

Can't wait for the re-reveal of The Division. It'll be glorious lol

I hope not, but you're probably right.

Still, bad graphics or not, if they manage to deliver on the promise of that game..dang, get hype.

 

[Cat in the Hat]

Ahahaha, Fantastic!

 

[KOMANI]

Toastyyyyyyy

 

[Chamber]

Sony's 1st party titles have seen tremendous improvements since E3.

Forza still looks good but definitely not at the level it was. I thought Forza 5 was arguably the most impressive looking game at E3.

EA Sports need to be taken out back and beaten.

 

[Eggbok]

Driveclub is getting extremely close to the reveal video.

 

[Theecliff]

Weren't the shots of FIFA, Live and Madden from E3 in the OP just pre-rendered stuff being shown at E3 to show off the engine? None of it was ever supposed to be gameplay, at least (although it was a bit disingenuous to show off a trailer for the engine when none of the games using it look even close).


And yeah, saw that shot comparison for Forza in the other thread and made a comment there.

Textures on the buildings have improved and parts of the track have actually been put in since E3, although that's probably because the track wasn't close to being finished back then. However, DOF, lighting, anti-aliasing, crowds, environmental effects (the smoke in the background) and seemingly AF (although I'm not too sure from those shots) have all been downgraded.

While it definitely doesn't explain/excuse everything, was the E3 shot taken in replay mode?

 

[KOMANI]

I hope not, but you're probably right.

Still, bad graphics or not, if they manage to deliver on the promise of that game..dang, get hype.

we'll see. I'm glad games like watch dogs, and drive club are taking more time. The more time the Division is in development, the more confident I am they'll hit their mark... cause this half resolution now, half after patch stuff is getting ri-gaw-damn-diculous.

 

[Nafai1123]

KZ: SF surpassed the reveal IMO.

 

[Dinjooh]

Even in the N64 days we had 2d crowds that had 1 or 2 different poses! But looking at this 2d crowd, it seems to consist of pictures they hastily took at the office.

Yea I know, but this looks like all the folks from the office just got pictured and put in the game, and wondered if they also had a "Bring your winter-coat to work day" to get all the pictures needed.

Looks like the girl in blue at the front has a twin that's right behind her.

Edit: nvm triplets, to the right there's another one but with a green shirt!

Tons of her!

 

[twobear]

Killzone looks alot better, the easiest way to see is look at the e3 forest demo and the current game.


OLD ( Direct )

New (Compressed from PS4, not direct )

How in sweet hell am I supposed to conclude anything about this from two totally different areas?

 

[Wishmaster92]

I'll post some Ryse comparisons, but they're not the best quality.

 

[Mask]

Killzone seems pretty much untouched. The reflective glass on the buildings seems toned down or removed, but other than that, yeah, the same.

Ryse was improved, 2K14 is unbelievably good, Knack got some improvements, and the less said about the Forza crowds, the better..

 

[KOMANI]

Weren't the shots of FIFA, Live and Madden from E3 in the OP just pre-rendered stuff being shown at E3 to show off the engine? None of it was ever supposed to be gameplay, at least (although it was a bit disingenuous to show off a trailer for the engine when none of the games using it look even close).


And yeah, saw that shot comparison for Forza in the other thread and made a comment there.

Textures on the buildings have improved and parts of the track have actually been put in since E3, although that's probably because the track wasn't close to being finished back then. However, DOF, lighting, anti-aliasing, crowds, environmental effects (the smoke in the background) and seemingly AF (although I'm not too sure from those shots) have all been downgraded.

While it definitely doesn't explain/excuse everything, was the E3 shot taken in replay mode?

i believe if you go to the first page, you'll see a quote from someone from EA admitting that what they're showing is CGI, but then claims that their games are close to their CGI counterparts, if not in some places surpassing them.

 

[RawNuts]

You beat me to it, I was going to hide Liu Kang in there and replace the image in quoting him and see if anyone noticed.

 

[jooey]

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

More accurately, Cruis'n USA

 

[kanuuna]

Good question. It is false advertising, someone should sue for once, see what happens.

There was this case with Call of Duty 2 once. I don't think Activison had to compensate anything to anyone, though I assume the TV commercial they had to pull cost them a pretty penny.

 

[GQman2121]

I fear this is going to be another generation where Madden doesn't come close to looking like their reveal trailer.

 

[Damaniel]

Killzone seems pretty much untouched. The reflective glass on the buildings seems toned down or removed, but other than that, yeah, the same

They definitely changed some of the post processing steps, but the reflections are still there (just really muted). I'm actually shocked how similar the 'bullshot' version and the release version of Killzone are. It gives me hope that power is there to exploit if developers can (and want to) make the effort.

I fear this is going to be another generation where Madden doesn't come close to looking like their reveal trailer.

But within a generation or two, it may look like last gen's reveal trailer...

 

[Windforce]

LOL! hahahaha!

 

[Tiu Neo]

Forza... Holy fuck, the cutouts on the final version. That shit should have been gone after the PS2/GC/Xbox era.

 

[Demon Ice]

NBA Live 14 and Killzone nailed it.


The other 3 noticeably downgraded. Lol at 3D animated crowds --> static 2D sprite crowds for Forza. The first time I saw the sprites I literally thought they had been poorly photoshopped into the game.

 

[jet1911]

When the time comes, I will remind you of this post.

Why? You think it'll look the same, or better? Are you new to the "Ubisoft vertical slice demo" way to show a game? If it look the same I'll be super happy but chances are that it wont look the same. At all.

 

[CREMSteve]

Driveclub is getting extremely close to the reveal video.

Sweetjesus.gif

 

[Nethaniah]

When the time comes, I will remind you of this post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnAbRpyqfI

 

[Heshinsi]

NBA Live 14 and Killzone nailed it.


The other 3 noticeably downgraded. Lol at 3D animated crowds --> static 2D sprite crowds for Forza. The first time I saw the sprites I literally thought they had been poorly photoshopped into the game.

Excuse me, but what?

 

[TheRealTalker]

Killzone, Ryse, NBA 2k14 delivered

everything else did not

I agree they've maintained and in some place improved their presentation

 

[jacksepticeye]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

EEEEWWWWWWW

This is fucking horrid

 

[antitrop]

Can't wait for the re-reveal of The Division. It'll be glorious lol

Will you be able to close the door!?

 

[Goodacre0081]

my attempt

 

[newshinycd]

Forza:

That crowd...

You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.

My god it is like they looked at Cruisin' USA and said "Hey those crowd models look good. Let's do that. NEXT GEN, YEAH!"

 

[plasmawave]

How in sweet hell am I supposed to conclude anything about this from two totally different areas?

The retail version clearly has a better ass.

 

[ArtHands]

Those sports titles look horrible in the final build.

Both killzone and forza holds up well

 

[Chamber]

Must say that the EA ones are a little unfair. Nowhere did they state that the Ignite Trailer was gameplay.

Kind of like putting a screencap from the Cinematic trailers for Diablo III or World of Warcraft against a screenshot from the games.

Weren't the shots of FIFA, Live and Madden from E3 in the OP just pre-rendered stuff being shown at E3 to show off the engine? None of it was ever supposed to be gameplay, at least (although it was a bit disingenuous to show off a trailer for the engine when none of the games using it look even close).

You guys are being quite generous here. Madden doesn't even look as good as the already downgraded gameplay trailer they showed at E3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWVSwEtJQU

 

[ICPEE]

Dat next gen

 

[Skyzard]

Killzone has a lot less mist and fifa looks like a turd.

-yes please (antitrop)! And don't say such things, jet1911 next-gen would be for nothing.


edit- it's not mist, it's something to do with the shadowing.

 

[chubigans]

Replaced the FIFA shot with something better. Comes straight from the PS4.

 

[USC-fan]

Wow forza... what happen.. oh yeah its a launch games.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Oh god that Messi face. I'm not sleeping tonight.

You should add Knack in there.

 

[moondoggerr]

It was ever thus. I remember the "target gameplay" videos for Madden 06 being phenomenal. And then the game came out...