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[clarky]

Because most of the sales for games happen right around launch, and these already dying games journalism sites need the traffic from those people. By then most of those potential buyers checking reviews and gameplay will have already made up their minds.

Just check out the user reviews for this game if you need to know if the game is good or not .

 

[uncreativename]

Like I said, I think it looks fine. I used the evidence of my own eyes from watching gameplay on youtube to decide that, though .

I've seen too many Steam reviews to believe that they're really a good way to decide if a game's good or not.

 

[diffusionx]

And yet Destiny had reviews on day 1, not delayed until VoG was released??? What is even your point here?

Yea defending this is ridiculous.

Review the game so people can decide if the game is worth playing NOW when it is out and they are asking money for it.

If this map materially and substantially changes the game then amend the review.

 

[clarky]

This isnt destiny and a map does in an extraction shooter isnt a raid

Funny that you think that they want to delay reviews because the game is ass. The opposite is true.

Look at my post above.

And yes I think vault of glass doesnt change what Destiny is at its core.

Well hello captain obvious. The core of Destiny was always good but the launch content was bobbins. VOG was not. That content was part of the package that you got when you paid the price of entry.

Destiny was a 5 at best until VOG. After I'd give it a 9.

 

[clarky]

Yea defending this is ridiculous.

Review the game so people can decide if the game is worth playing NOW when it is out and they are asking money for it.

If this map materially and substantially changes the game then amend the review.

Not its not and you think this "defending" is because it will review badly. It won't.

Anyone on the fence might like to know how the mid and end game is before making a decision.

Review what's there now sure but you wouldn't be giving the whole picture to your readers and that should be stated. If the consumer is wondering weather to pay the price they are asking why would you only review 3/4 of the content? How would that allow anyone to make an informed decision.

 

[diffusionx]

Not its not and you think this "defending" is because it will review badly. It won't.

Anyone on the fence might like to know how the mid and end game is before making a decision.

Review what's there now sure but you wouldn't be giving the whole picture to your readers and that should be stated. If the consumer is wondering weather to pay the price they are asking why would you only review 3/4 of the content? How would that allow anyone to make an informed decision.

You are absolutely giving the whole picture to your readers lol. Because you are reviewing the game they can play. You're not reviewing 3/4 of the content you're reviewing 100% of the content they can play.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

... asking people to delay their review for your game for two weeks after you release it because a new map is coming out? Sure is a bold strategy.

Bungie tried that same crap with Destiny 1, where they released the game and wanted people to not review it until the first raid was unlocked. And as many said: it wouldn't have change their scores.

I don't got time to explain why I don't have time to review.

 

[Raven117]

And yet, somehow, through all the nonsense of Destiny 1, it was still my most played game of all time

 

[bender]

You are absolutely giving the whole picture to your readers lol. Because you are reviewing the game they can play. You're not reviewing 3/4 of the content you're reviewing 100% of the content they can play.

We used to have, and maybe still do, reviews-in-progress.

 

[clarky]

You are absolutely giving the whole picture to your readers lol. Because you are reviewing the game they can play. You're not reviewing 3/4 of the content you're reviewing 100% of the content they can play.

So the Content they are releasing next week isn't included in the price of entry? Why should that be excluded when conducting an assessment?

It might be shit, i need others to tell me if its good or not before I can enjoy it, or not.

 

[diffusionx]

So the Content they are releasing next week isn't included in the price of entry? Why should that be excluded when conducting an assessment?

It might be shit, i need others to tell me if its good or not before I can enjoy it, or not.

Like I said, the review can be amended

But as of now there is a product that can be played and that product can be reviewed. This isn't complicated.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

We paid for a live service game that's going to have continual updates.

We don't know this. Bungie doesn't know either. Those promises depend on the game doing well. If it doesn't, they will shut it down no matter their promises. We have to rate the game as is now. Later on, that review could be updated.

Calling a game "incomplete" because a future update has yet to release is insane.

Bungie themselves have deemed the game incomplete by asking the media to not review it.

The whole point of these games is that they get updated and evolve over time.

Yes, and players should know the state of the game at each milestone.

Seems like people have a really hard time grasping that concept.

Not hard at all. Bungie is unsure of the current state of the product they have released.

 

[clarky]

Like I said, the review can be amended

But as of now there is a product that can be played and that product can be reviewed. This isn't complicated.

Fair, the core of the game won't change you can assess what on offer right now, but it should be stated that it isn't all the content you be paying for.

Like i said they are hyping up the "raid", if its wank( or not) then that should be considered when reviewing the content you are buying as it part of the asking price. Its not complicated.

 

[Fess]

Totally different and you know it.

I just think it's absurd that that they're selling the game now but don't want people to review it now.

If it's still early access, then sell it like an early access title for less money.

If it's GAAS then let people review it at it's current state like with every other GAAS title.

Every dev can ask reviewers to not review their game yet. It creates an absurd scenario where a game is sold without reviews being available. Day 1 reviews are bad enough. Should we have to deal with day 30 reviews now?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Bungie might want to get game sites to post the reviews asap as the CCU is falling. At least more gamers will read up on it.

But they probably know their reviews will be meh unless sites get more content to boost their opinions. So better to have no reviews and gamers go in blind buying it than meh reviews.

 

[L*][*N*K]

I am just gonna ask, how is this an acceptable practice?! At this point they are deliberately keeping consumers in the dark to sell copies of this game

 

[Fake]

I am just gonna ask, how is this an acceptable practice?! At this point they are deliberately keeping consumers in the dark to sell copies of this game

Would be OK if was a free to play game, but they are asking money and reviews make difference for some buyers.

This should be illegal imo.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Games should be reviewed in their release state. Then they should have just waited.

This.
Reviewers aren't supposed to review a promise, but the product people are buying with their money right now.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Would be OK if was a free to play game, but they are asking money and reviews make difference for some buyers.

This should be illegal imo.

Exactly thank you.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

Not sure if anyones checked already but here's a comparison of Arc Raiders launch and how long it took for review sites to release their reviews vs what we have so far for Marathon. Maybe it's completely normal to have zero bigger outlets with a review after 3 days?

Arc Raiders release date: Thursday Oct 30, 2025

So what outlets reviewed that game in the first 5 days?

CNET - review on Oct 30th - launch day

Push Square - review Oct 31st
Game8 - review Oct 31st

On November 3rd (4 days after launch) we had:
DualShockers

November 4th (5 days after launch):
Gamespot
Everyeye.it
Gamingbolt
Game Rant

So while there weren't many reviews for Arc Raiders from bigger outlets right away, there were certainly some that got their reviews out asap. So far for Marathon we have 3 reviews on Opencritic and probably not from anyone anybody has heard of. The highest of those 3 reviews is a 7.9/10 followed by a 68% and a 40%...kudos to them (Chicas Gamers, NoobFeed, and Entertainment Geekly) for actually reviewing the game as it is though.

 

[readonly]

Not sure if anyones checked already but here's a comparison of Arc Raiders launch and how long it took for review sites to release their reviews vs what we have so far for Marathon. Maybe it's completely normal to have zero bigger outlets with a review after 3 days?

Arc Raiders release date: Thursday Oct 30, 2025

So what outlets reviewed that game in the first 5 days?

CNET - review on Oct 30th - launch day

Push Square - review Oct 31st
Game8 - review Oct 31st

On November 3rd (4 days after launch) we had:
DualShockers

November 4th (5 days after launch):
Gamespot
Everyeye.it
Gamingbolt
Game Rant

So while there weren't many reviews for Arc Raiders from bigger outlets right away, there were certainly some that got their reviews out asap. So far for Marathon we have 3 reviews on Opencritic and probably not from anyone anybody has heard of. The highest of those 3 reviews is a 7.9/10 followed by a 68% and a 40%...kudos to them (Chicas Gamers, NoobFeed, and Entertainment Geekly) for actually reviewing the game as it is though.

I don't know much about each games release but an important missing factor is review copies for these 2 games. What kind of time were reviewers given before release day? Were they given any advanced playtime? How much for each game.

 

[Nydius]

Destiny was a 5 at best until VOG. After I'd give it a 9.

You must live in a completely different timeline. Destiny 1 was still absolute mediocre trash even AFTER Vault of Glass, especially because the barrier to entry for VOG was so high only a tiny fraction of the playerbase got to experience it. All of the complaints about the core game experience remained even within the raid.

Destiny didn't have its turn around moment until The Taken King dropped. That's when it went from middling shit to an actual decent game.

 

[clarky]

You must live in a completely different timeline. Destiny 1 was still absolute mediocre trash even AFTER Vault of Glass, especially because the barrier to entry for VOG was so high only a tiny fraction of the playerbase got to experience it. All of the complaints about the core game experience remained even within the raid.

Destiny didn't have its turn around moment until The Taken King dropped. That's when it went from middling shit to an actual decent game.

Disagree, but hey we can all have a different opinion. Ran Vault for countless hours, it absolutely saved the whole franchise.

 

[adamsapple]

edit:

first couple of reviews are out, not enough to form an aggregate so far.

 

[Arsic]

edit:

first couple of reviews are out, not enough to form an aggregate so far.

I've never heard of any of these publications.

Feels like there's so many nowadays and most if not all are such crap.

I wonder what casual players use for "on the fence" to buy pushes? I assume it's streamers or a YTer they like.

A hardcore gamer would likely come to a place like this to see impressions. Steam reviews can often be misleading and meme shit or volatile bombing if the game doesn't work on their 1060.

I think this will average at a 7/10 for journalists but it seems to be a strong 8/10 for those who bought it already.

 

[L*][*N*K]

I am just gonna ask, how is this an acceptable practice?! At this point they are deliberately keeping consumers in the dark to sell copies of this game

18 days.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

A bunch of sites wont even bother. The interest in the game tanked so some sites will skip it. Last time I saw it, highguard still had in progress reviews not finished sitting there for a month. And that was before they announced shutting it down.

Give Sony and Bungie credit. They knew dragging it on would get sales. Any reviews now will probably be better than a launch review for the laggards waiting for more reviews. The rest already bought it

 

[Guardian Monkey]

I am just gonna ask, how is this an acceptable practice?! At this point they are deliberately keeping consumers in the dark to sell copies of this game

18 days.

No one was forced to delay the review. It's a GAAS it doesn't happen all on day one. How is someone suppose to review a game that everyone has access to on the same day beforehand?

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

It's fair to now say they spent $3,600,000,000 for a GaaS flop.

Where are the Sacred Symbols, Kinda Funny, IGN etc. know-it-alls?

 

[L*][*N*K]

No one was forced to delay the review. It's a GAAS it doesn't happen all on day one. How is someone suppose to review a game that everyone has access to on the same day beforehand?

How did they do Destiny? Arc Raiders? Overwatch? Bro you can eat their load of crap with a spoon if you choose to but don't force us to watch.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Sure jan.

? ok