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[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

People losing their jobs? Quick, how can I make this about woke stuff?

Didn't you know that DEI stands for "Dont emply Imbeciles"?

/s

 

[Wooxsvan]

"It's okay to kill people in games but omg children plz don't look, there's a gay character in there and an ugly woman that doesn't look like a barbie"

If your kids won't turn out to be killers because of the "influence" of a game, don't worry...chances are they won't suddenly be lgbt as well because of them. If one of them turns out to be one, they would always be without the game. There's plenty of millenials and gen x people out there that aren't straight and guess what? never played games with a single gay character in them.

Seeing so many posts taking advantage of this massive layoff to talk about "woke stuff" is honestly disgusting and makes no sense. One thing is literally no related with the other. People are losing their jobs right now and you guys are worried about that?

you made lots of assumptions there. and they are definitely related because many people voice their distaste for things in their games they don't want and then vote with their wallet elsewhere

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

well, dont be so naive. Bungie has championed such causes which have turned off many of their audience and also on the other hand distracts from actual design/art/programming work being done. time is limited in dev cycles. I dont play their woke games anymore because of the horrible influence on my children for 1 reason. i know many parents who have taken the same route. wake up, dont be woke.

That’s a long fucking post to say that you’re a nazi. There, have your fucking culture war, cuck.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

What i mentioned on my first post here. Not unexpected in any way.

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

I had to double check to make sure this was the same developer that made Combat Evolve back in the day. I loved the first two Halo’s, I would of never imagine two decades later this developer would be washed up like this, that is crazy. This is what came up when I searched-

I have never heard anybody in my circle talk about this Destiny game.

 

[AnotherXOne]

Damn. Why do people simp for bungie anyway with halo. It looks like they would have just make the game as bad as 343 with 4, 5 and infinite.

 

[Mr Moose]

Microsoft killing another studio, destroying industry…..oh wait.

I can taste the salt from here.
Hopefully this affects mostly those with pink hair/DEI shite, like MS just got rid of some.

 

[Snake29]

But I was told only Microsoft is the bad guys.

MS is still the bad guy…so?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What happened to the billion dollar employee retention program handed down by Sony to Bungie? Was that a facade?

I’m going to assume any bonus payouts were paid out by now. It’s been over two years since the acquisition. But you never know. Depends what the terms and timing are, and whether or not payouts are given even if fired (and not quitting on your own).

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Couldn't get a full 3 (well 4) pages before hurt people chiming in about people not keeping the same energy when MS laid off people and others feeling good about this because "but they are woke".

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The fact that Naughty Dog's multiplayer title was advised BY BUNGIE to not move forward is just something i'll never forget.

Imagine saying no to your premium studio that has created Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharter and TLOU, literally the mascots of all your generations and taking the opinion of Bungie. I bet their monetization wasn't even that bad...it simply wasn't as predatory as Destiny...which since then has been failing.

That said...sounds like the CEO is not in a good place:











Not the CEO going private on X right after showing off his brand new cars to the people working for him.

Holy shit...imagine being like this.

He was bragging about cars? Lol.

That’s video game employees for ya. Always weird social media bios and posts.

Now compare that bravado to CEOs working for your typical bank or manufacturing company.

The ceo of my company doesn’t even have a Twitter/X account. And if he does it must be some obscure account just for boring family stuff. Any company news is done with your usual earnings reports or Reuters article. No personal agendas or dumb shit like manchildren gaming execs do.

 

[Elios83]

Their Destiny is to be progressively fully fused into PlayStation Studios.

 

[semiconscious]

Thats like one huge studio. I hope Sony finds them jobs.

So Bungie only working Destiny and Marathon confirmed?

& that's just about my only response to this news...

 

[LimanimaPT]

What? 220 employees is only 17% of the workforce? How can this be sustainable?

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Sounds like being bought by Sony isn't what they thought it would be...

 

[NEbeast]

I kept saying when the acquisition was announced with non-standard PR about how independent Bungie would be that it was most likely (or rather obviously) a timed thing.

Nobody buys a company and gives them indefinite freedom.

They might have had it if they didn't fuck Destiny up so bad. TFS was great but after years of bad decisions it could only do so much. Marathon got delayed because of play testers not liking it. Pete parson has ruined Bungie, he should be the first to go.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Sounds like being bought by Sony isn't what they thought it would be...

They knew what they were doing. The execs mind you. Not the regular employees.

Bungie is a mercenary company who’ll partner up or sell out to the highest bidder. And Sony is that company offering $3.5B. It seemed the second the buyout happened then magically bungie financials came crashing down at the same time. The execs cashed out sweetly. Perfectly timing selling at peak value.

If bungie is able to split off from Sony, they’ll go indie for a bit then try to buddy up with EA or Nintendo. They’ve already done their deals with MS, Activision and now Sony. But we’ll see. Maybe Sony will keep them forever.

 

[Ogbert]

Just get rid of all the DEI land whales and clown shoes.

 

[Wooxsvan]

That’s a long fucking post to say that you’re a nazi. There, have your fucking culture war, cuck.

Bungie actually hires and celebrates race/sex etc instead of practicing real meritocracy. stuff needs to go. be colorblind. run from evil. turn from it. Nazi? no way, they were even worse.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

What? 220 employees is only 17% of the workforce? How can this be sustainable?

clearly is not

 

[LordCBH]

That’s a long fucking post to say that you’re a nazi. There, have your fucking culture war, cuck.

Oh fuck off. You and everyone else needs to stop misusing the fucking word Nazi. Jesus titty fucking Christ.

 

[TheUsual]

Brutal stuff but the band-aid had to come off at some point.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Just get rid of all the DEI land whales and clown shoes.

Same company who comped employee cooking and knitting classes. And when they ditched them, employees complained.

 

[Draugoth]

Spoiler: spoiler

They drop this bombshell right after i have surgery, cant even leave bed to participate in this disscussion because of pain

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[Punished Miku]

They knew what they were doing. The execs mind you. Not the regular employees.

For sure. The main thing the execs want is to get bought over and over again. They've made out like bandits at MS, Activision and now Sony. Must be a hell of a salesman.

It was never about being forced to make Halo. They've made the same shit pretty much this whole time. It's $$$ for the top execs.

 

[Mortisfacio]

MS is still the bad guy…so?

"Only". So given what I said and what you replied with, I'm assuming firing staff is only bad when Microsoft does it, per you?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

LOL. We're not talking about Ghost of Tsushima 2, ND's next project and Gran Turismo 8 flopping back to back. You're truly delusional.

Seriously, how can someone survive if 4-5 studios flop?? It's an epic fail, regardless of the others's success. A summary:

- Haven: uncertain, likely to flop.

- Media Molecule: pretty much dead.

- Neon Koei: who?

- Bungie: chopped up piece by piece.

- Firewalk: soon to burn in a pyre.

Add Firesprite, London Studio and Deviation to this, plus the negative impact on Naughty Dog, Sony's flagship studio.


Hermen isn't fit for the job.

 

[Daniel_Mallorca1985]

 

[clarky]

Whats your point? The have been working on a highly successful GAAS for the last ten years. As per the "plan".

Thats coming to an end so they started up a couple of other projects a few years ago so???

 

[tmlDan]

Seriously, how can someone survive if 4-5 studios flop?? It's an epic fail, regardless of the others's success. A summary:

- Haven: uncertain, likely to flop.

- Media Molecule: pretty much dead.

- Neon Koei: who?

- Bungie: chopped up piece by piece.

- Firewalk: soon to burn in a pyre.

Add Firesprite, London Studio and Deviation to this, plus the negative impact on Naughty Dog, Sony's flagship studio.


Hermen isn't fit for the job.

how is it Hermens fault, is he making the games? its the studios and devs in those studios you weirdo. He just took over in 2019 too and only got a real leadership role with real power this year.

 

[Punished Miku]

Seriously, how can someone survive if 4-5 studios flop?? It's an epic fail, regardless of the others's success. A summary:

- Haven: uncertain, likely to flop.

- Media Molecule: pretty much dead.

- Neon Koei: who?

- Bungie: chopped up piece by piece.

- Firewalk: soon to burn in a pyre.

Add Firesprite, London Studio and Deviation to this, plus the negative impact on Naughty Dog, Sony's flagship studio.


Hermen isn't fit for the job.

Head of production already fired. CEO shown the door. I don't know if Sony Japan knows who to put in charge at this point, and probably had to go with Herman just out of necessity for now.

 

[pasterpl]

"Only". So given what I said and what you replied with, I'm assuming firing staff is only bad when Microsoft does it, per you?

Isn’t that obvious ?

 

[Von Hugh]

Just bury Bungie already. Such a shell of its former self.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Oh fuck off. You and everyone else needs to stop misusing the fucking word Nazi. Jesus titty fucking Christ.

Well, when dealing with wokespotters…

Edit: needlessly inflammatory

 

[Estocolmo]

This is simply not true!
Impossible!

Everybody knows that Sony don’t have studios that fires employees!
Only Microsoft and other evils does that!
Never could this happen to a Sony studio, just never!!!

 

[Bartski]

The fact that Naughty Dog's multiplayer title was advised BY BUNGIE to not move forward is just something i'll never forget.

Imagine saying no to your premium studio that has created Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharter and TLOU, literally the mascots of all your generations and taking the opinion of Bungie. I bet their monetization wasn't even that bad...it simply wasn't as predatory as Destiny...which since then has been failing.

That said...sounds like the CEO is not in a good place:











Not the CEO going private on X right after showing off his brand new cars to the people working for him.

Holy shit...imagine being like this.

imagine the disaster it must have been if they chose to bin it over Concord

 

[nial]

Seriously, how can someone survive if 4-5 studios flop??

Shuhei Yoshida did fine black in the day.

- Haven: uncertain, likely to flop.

"likely", but ok, I'll give you that.

- Media Molecule: pretty much dead.

No, and it's why they're giving them another chance with what's probably a low-risk project. MM's shortcomings were its own doing, and long before Hermen Hulst became president of WWS.

- Neon Koei: who?

We don't even know much about them to form any substantiated opinion.

- Bungie: chopped up piece by piece.

Nice try sneaking them on the list. Hermen Hulst had nothing to do with Bungie until June of this very same year, and even then they still remain with the independent leadership. We'll talk again when the full SIE takeover happens.

- Firewalk: soon to burn in a pyre.

Fair.

Add Firesprite, London Studio and Deviation

Not even owned by Sony, be fucking real here.

plus the negative impact on Naughty Dog, Sony's flagship studio.

And no actual proof of that being the case.

Hermen isn't fit for the job.

 

[BigBeauford]

That’s a long fucking post to say that you’re a nazi. There, have your fucking culture war, cuck.

Leave the kids alone.


NAZIIIIIIIIII

 

[nial]

Head of production already fired.

Connie Booth was not 'head of production', she was head of internal production at WWS America, hence her not being that important to begin with once they started to make operations more global. Very same reason as to why Kazuo Kato from WWS Japan Studio is not there anymore.

CEO shown the door.

Never happened.

I don't know if Sony Japan knows who to put in charge at this point, and probably had to go with Herman just out of necessity for now.

First of all, just say Sony, we all know it's a Japanese company, and second, this is some dumb shit that you have no idea of. You know that they could have given his responsibilities to Hideaki Nishino instead, right?

 

[skyfinch]

Wtf?! First Song copies Microsoft's Kinect by adding features and calling it PSVR. Now they're trying to one up them by firing people?! What's next, a Madame Web controller with a big booty?

 

[bender]

First Song copies Microsoft's Kinect by adding features and calling it PSVR.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Wtf?! First Song copies Microsoft's Kinect by adding features and calling it PSVR. Now they're trying to one up them by firing people?! What's next, a Madame Web controller with a big booty?

have you seen Dakota's booty?

 

[thismeinteil]

I kept saying when the acquisition was announced with non-standard PR about how independent Bungie would be that it was most likely (or rather obviously) a timed thing.

Nobody buys a company and gives them indefinite freedom.

Not really a timed thing. Pretty sure it had to do with hitting profit goals. If they hit them, they stay completely free. But if they miss them, Sony was stepping in to right the ship before further damage was done.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Didn't you know that DEI stands for "Dont emply Imbeciles"?

/s

 

[cormack12]

Ehhhh, sounds like most are senior management, which would be obvious tbh. Two people don't go into one job. Sucks but pretty standard practise.

 

[Bry0]

The bungie of old already felt dead and buried but this feels like that definitive nail in the coffin in a way. It makes me sad. They seemed like a really cool tight knit group of people that just wanted to make the coolest game possible back in the day. Halo releases were like nothing else at the time.

Hopefully those people can find another job quickly and drama free.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Not really a timed thing. Pretty sure it had to do with hitting profit goals. If they hit them, they stay completely free. But if they miss them, Sony was stepping in to right the ship before further damage was done.

Generally profit goals also have a time component though.

So it likely could be both.

 

[fudgybrownie]

Time to bring back Factions 2.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

He was bragging about cars? Lol.

That’s video game employees for ya. Always weird social media bios and posts.

Now compare that bravado to CEOs working for your typical bank or manufacturing company.

The ceo of my company doesn’t even have a Twitter/X account. And if he does it must be some obscure account just for boring family stuff. Any company news is done with your usual earnings reports or Reuters article. No personal agendas or dumb shit like manchildren gaming execs do.

Seems like braggin about cars is just a typical day for him...look at this:



Also...here's the CEO's list of cars purchased on BAT. I just said "holy shit" out loud actually: