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C64 channel coming to Virtual Console - Europe exclusive at the moment :P
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Never played C64 apart from maybe as a kid over friend's houses... then again, I have a faint recollection of it at best. This would be cool to try but what are some interesting games that actually hold up well? I hope we'll get some of the Ultima ports, at least...
Monkeylord
Member
Wasn't "ELITE" on C64? (think there was a NES version too, can't remember).
ELITE... NOW!
ELITE... NOW!
Phife Dawg said:
Exactly. I would've bought a lot more VC games if the prices were lower. 500 points for an average 8-bit game is a joke. Of course, if someone thinks NES games are priced decently and C64 games are overpriced, they're jokers too. As someone already said: C64 > NES (and Amiga > SNES btw).
That pricepoint of 500 points stings a little bit. I'd have preferred 100 points less, to differentiate C64 and NES games in the minds of people. It's certainly not cheap, but I can live with the price. Five bucks certainly ain't small change, but I can live with allowing myself some "luxury" from time to time. Clearly outside of the impulse buy range though.
Oh, and please: Cracktros and awesometastic Loading screens. That would be so awesome. I'll begrudgingly
take the originals, too, but somehow it wouldn't give me the same sense of nostalgia. I never owned a C64, mind you, but I mooched off friends with C64s (and Schneider CPCs, for that matter).
Next on the wishlist: Amiga.
Anyway...
Please, Nintendo, give me a non-stupid storage solution. I want to give you money, but currently I have no space left and do not want to do the SD/download shuffle every time I want to play a different game...
Oh, and please: Cracktros and awesometastic Loading screens. That would be so awesome. I'll begrudgingly
take the originals, too, but somehow it wouldn't give me the same sense of nostalgia. I never owned a C64, mind you, but I mooched off friends with C64s (and Schneider CPCs, for that matter). Next on the wishlist: Amiga.
Anyway...
Please, Nintendo, give me a non-stupid storage solution. I want to give you money, but currently I have no space left and do not want to do the SD/download shuffle every time I want to play a different game...
Union Carbine
Member
Yes!pubba said:
I don't get Nintendos price strategy.. I haven't bought a VC game in months, because I could often get the original cartridge for the same price. The result is that I'm not purchasing any Wii points and that I'm not even checking out the Wii shop channel.. if prices would be let's say half or a third of what they are now, I would propably already have purchased 20 or more games... and I can't imagine that I'm the only one.
I think part of the problem is stanard pricing by platform, rather than variable pricing by title. I'd have no problem paying 500 points for something like Crystalis, but stuff like Mappy or Tennis? No way.ethelred said:
The only limited variance seems to be in higher premiums too (for licensed properties or imports). I think VC sales would benefit greatly of all platform pricing allowed for more of a sliding scale based on a by title basis (ie: 300-600 points for 8bit, 600-900 points for 16bit, 900-1200 points for 32bit+).
ethelred said:
Based on what?
Value is totally subjective after all. When i see NES games outta here in Montreal selling at around 10$ on stores, i prefer to pay 5$ on the Wii, save money and also benefit from Component Cables clarity. SNES games and N64 games are also WAY MORE expensive than on the VC in stories here too.
Diablohead
Member
I think there are some games worthy of 500 points, but not probably half of what we will get will be.
*edit* On the VC they are around £7-8.
Where abouts are you? here in the UK I've picked up games like goldeneye, mario 64 and OOT for £5 each, original carts.Ranger X said:
*edit* On the VC they are around £7-8.
Maybe the Spectrum/other platform ports. Most Native C64 games were too bloody low res to be ahead of anything in terms of graphics ;PMarconelly said:
Ok now that I made my inner Sinclair troll happy:
To be fair though - one thing that I noticed when replaying most of those C64/Spectrum games from my childhood is that they were really, Really short. When people talk about few hours being short, what about games that you can play to completion in 10-20minutes (of course, those kind of designs were heavily influenced by arcades of the era - repeating often after dying gives the length, but total content is not much).
Actually, on average VC pricepoints are below used even (far below for TG16 especially). You might think prices need to be slashed universally, but market forces generally indicate otherwise.ethelred said:
Er... so how else should we arrive at pricing exactly? I don't see another solution really?loosus said:
Per title pricing seems like (by far) the best route imo.
jarrod said:
That's not exactly what market forces indicate. An honest attempt to do a market comparison would also look at comparable digital distribution services -- and whether it's Xbox Live Arcade, PSN, or a rental service like GameTap, the Wii's price range is far above the norm. And while it's true that it's offering a greater quantity of options than, at least, the first two, that's not exactly a reality that gives the system carte blanche to be so high over the others in pricing. The fact that Virtual Console's sales are so anemic compared to these others is grounds in support of this. And sales are the ultimate arbiter of what the market is saying.
There's really absolutely no reason why the Virtual Console couldn't be offering the best lineup and still maintain a competitive pricing value (which it is absolutely not doing right now). But the service has, generally, been handled ineptly from the start... which is unfortunate given how much promise it had and still has. Hey, I've bought plenty of Virtual Console games myself, so I'm no stranger to the service... but I'd have bought even more if the prices were reasonable, and I'm sure many others would be, too. And I'd have bought more if there was a half-decent storage solution in the works. And if there were a greater variety/quantity of games being released regularly. Or if there were demos. Or if online play was made an option for multiplayer games (something possible in just about any emulator). And actually advertising the service wouldn't hurt for all the people who aren't even that on top of it.
I dunno...maybe just cut the motherfucking prices altogether? At least with, for example, the NES games all being cheaper than SNES games, there's a darn-near-objective reason (i.e., NES games are generally older, generally have less content, generally have worse graphics, etc.).jarrod said:
What you're proposing is ridiculous. Whereas the current system has SOME objectivity, your system would basically be "Well, I like this game, so make it a higher price."
From a person at the VC-Reviews (The site I work on) forums who's apparently on the team working on VC C64:
http://www.vc-forums.com/showpost.php?p=51900&postcount=27
!!!!!
This is badasss and everything but I wonder how the emulation would work. I mean the loading screen should be there but I'm guessing they'll find a way to just bypass it.
Yeah, I don't recognize alot of these names, but I agree somewhat. A lot of these games were pretty cheap back in the day and even today most of them have been considered abandonware. $3 would have been an ideal pricepoint but $5 isn't that bad either. I would gladly pay $5 for Myth only if it still has its loading screen music intact.
This is badasss and everything but I wonder how the emulation would work. I mean the loading screen should be there but I'm guessing they'll find a way to just bypass it.
Apenheul said:
Yeah, I don't recognize alot of these names, but I agree somewhat. A lot of these games were pretty cheap back in the day and even today most of them have been considered abandonware. $3 would have been an ideal pricepoint but $5 isn't that bad either. I would gladly pay $5 for Myth only if it still has its loading screen music intact.
Man, I don't know how old you guys are but back in the 80's (I'm 33) friends of mine used to have hundreds of c64 titles. None of them were bought from the store. Now, I don't know how they got them, but everyone I knew who owned a c64 never, ever, bought titles. They just had boxes and boxes full of floppys. Old pirates I guess.
There was one title I do remember and would buy in a heartbeat. It was a pretty cool boxing game where you could even use a Kangaroo as a character.
There was one title I do remember and would buy in a heartbeat. It was a pretty cool boxing game where you could even use a Kangaroo as a character.
Flakster99
Member
Ohhhh shit. Awesome, just awesome news! The C64 and me go way, way back, and the amount of software and good times we shared are absolutely priceless. There were many fun, genuine gaming experiences to be had, and I am greatly looking forward to replaying some of them with my feet up, chilling on my comfy couch. The Amiga can't be to far behind.
Capndrake said:
PLEASE!!!!!!
Bruce Lee(summers spent in the house on this game me and my cousin).
The Last Ninja(isometric adventure game never finished because of bad disk).
Impossible Mission(Destroy him my robots/Stay a While, Stay Forever)
BCs Quest for Tires
Sex Games(I can dream can't I)(the one with multiple people screwing each other, strip poker & the masturbation one). GOOD TIMES!!!
Summer, Winter & California Games(Weight Lifting, Surfing, etc.).
Maniac Manison, Zak McCracken, etc.
I also had hundreds of games that were never bought, never remember how I got them and a lot of 'em were "cracked" by someone.
Those were the days, loading games from tape cassettes.
Also remember a little bit of programming making sounds using poke & peek.
Damn I'm old.
Bruce Lee(summers spent in the house on this game me and my cousin).
The Last Ninja(isometric adventure game never finished because of bad disk).
Impossible Mission(Destroy him my robots/Stay a While, Stay Forever)
BCs Quest for Tires
Sex Games(I can dream can't I)(the one with multiple people screwing each other, strip poker & the masturbation one). GOOD TIMES!!!
Summer, Winter & California Games(Weight Lifting, Surfing, etc.).
Maniac Manison, Zak McCracken, etc.
I also had hundreds of games that were never bought, never remember how I got them and a lot of 'em were "cracked" by someone.
Those were the days, loading games from tape cassettes.
Also remember a little bit of programming making sounds using poke & peek.
Damn I'm old.
The Faceless Master
Member
it was always out of hand.ethelred said:
people will always point out how they're just milking roms anyone with some brain capacity can get 'for free' and with save states, pause, rewind, fast forward, replay files, 2xSAI, SuperEagle, etc.
and it's true.
most of the stuff i recall fondly would either be a sad gameplay shock (Alternate Reality - stay in the happy nostalgia zone where you belong), or would be really hard to play without a keyboard.
i might be tempted by a controller friendly version of Ultima 2, Legacy of the Ancients, or Seven Cities of Gold... but i'm not sure how easily they could be translated to a handful of buttons.
...and get back to me when the vc amiga is ready.
i might be tempted by a controller friendly version of Ultima 2, Legacy of the Ancients, or Seven Cities of Gold... but i'm not sure how easily they could be translated to a handful of buttons.
...and get back to me when the vc amiga is ready.
Union Carbine
Member
Don't forget Spy vs. Spy!TiVo said:
djtiesto said:
I guess not many people here realize that the LOAD"*",8,1 thread is actually a C64 tribute thread. You can find plenty of game suggestions and much more information there.
Diablohead said:
I'm in Canada. Specifically in Montreal. There's alot of game stores around and they are all fucking crooks with the prices on used games. Seriously, i wanted to buy some original games but i couldn't ever convince myself to pay those outrageous prices.
Thing is, you might find here and there a game that is at a good price on Ebay or something but most of the time when you add shipping and whatnot, you end up paying at least what you pay on the VC here.
At equal prices i also chose VC because i own an SDTV that can take Component Cables and honestly it makes the games look better than when i play them on their original consoles so...
At least 50% of the worthwhile Amiga titles are owned by Sony.SovanJedi said:
If there's anything to get annoyed about (on top of pricing, usage, and all the other various flaws of VC), it's that the already sluggish release schedule is going to get even more bogged down with trash and we'll never see Pilotwings.
Classic_Gs
Member
500 Wii Points ?!?! Oh hell no.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Nintendo always finds a way to turn good news into shit.
$5? Call me back when these are $1.99 (never).
$5? Call me back when these are $1.99 (never).
I'll withhold judgment on the pricing of C64 until I've gone and researched the library to figure out what I would buy and compared that to what I would buy if the games were at a lower price; I don't know much of anything about the system right now. But without having done that yet, I'm guessing that C64 will be more par for the course to me: the great games will be worth it, the bad and mediocre games won't, and it's mostly the "good" games that'll suffer from the pricing because I won't get off the fence. (This is generally my thinking for all games across the board, downloadable or retail.)