Call Of Duty: Black Ops 4 Specialist Prophet revealed to be gay.

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I wonder how stuff like this effects peoples choice of the character.

Will there be less people playing as said character because they don't want to play as a gay character.

Or will more people play as them because they want to play as the gay character.

Or

Nothing, nothing at all happens.
 
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Something tells me a lot of people here don't play BO4. People have been calling me gay everytime they get hit with the seeker. Everyone has known this for months.
 

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It matters because people are outraged about it.
But it shouldn't matter, I had zero interest or hint at what the characters sexual preferences was.
He could be call Pamela on weekends for all I know, he might have a thing for Rihanna or Roseanne Barr
Or maybe Brad Pitt
But it doesn't matter because he is a blank slate.
All this does is separate him because it needs to be pointed out.
Is that really what they want?
 
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The only real problem is the "need" to say this. I mean, who cares, as far as I don't bother you and you don't bother me your sexual orientation is not a big deal.
 
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But it shouldn't matter, I had zero interest or hint at what the characters sexual preferences was.
He could be call Pamela on weekends for all I know, he might have a thing for Rihanna or Roseanne Barr
Or maybe Brad Pitt
But it doesn't matter because he is a blank slate.
All this does is separate him because it needs to be pointed out.
Is that really what they want?
Don’t all the characters have backstories? They don’t want anything other than to tell a story
 
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Why do we even care about the sexual orientation of our characters in games that have an absence of a romantic narrative? Does it need to be spelled out in every form of entertainment? Is it suppose to make me like the character more?
 

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Bunch of virtue signaling corporate BS when an article was just released that a Blizzard employee was bullied and had sexist remarks thrown at his face for 6 fucking years...

Doesn't matter the character's sexual orientation, it just adds nothing of value to the product.

Unless you're into sexual lore/ futanari and other weird shit like that, videogames characters' sexual orientation means nothing.
 
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Don’t all the characters have backstories? They don’t want anything other than to tell a story
They do but they rarely touch on their sexual orientation.
A relationship is often included in a characters back story when it's an important part of the character because it effects the story and ties to other character.
Today there seems to be more focused on sexual tension and drama while pointing out they are LGBTQ
Just watch one of DC's TV shows to see what I mean.
And it's so out of place and there really is no need for it to be pointed out every 20 mins
There cross overs are becoming laughable because the amount characters with LGBTQ sexual tension in situations that are inappropriate.
 
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Why do we even care about the sexual orientation of our characters in games that have an absence of a romantic narrative? Does it need to be spelled out in every form of entertainment? Is it suppose to make me like the character more?
See. here’s the thing.....

Does it need to be spelled out? No I don’t think it does.

Does it make anyone like a character more or less? I have no idea. I imagine for some people yes, for more no.

But now the question that sums up the whole stalemate:

Who do we care?

No one cares unless the character is gay. That’s my problem. For all the side stories, extra vids, lore expansions, in game cutscenes, whatever else that portray a straight person don’t elicit any response to anyone.

No one ever posts “why are they telling me this person is straight.” No one asks “why does it matter if they hero is straight.”

People who post those things after a character is gay.

To me there has to be a reason for that. And I think that reason is kind of crappy.
 
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My response is basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Unless he shouts "I'M THE GAYEST MOTHERFUCKER ALIVE!" everytime he gets a scorestreak or a kill then I don't see the issue. Then again that line would fit the tone of this game pretty well.
 
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See. here’s the thing.....

Does it need to be spelled out? No I don’t think it does.

Does it make anyone like a character more or less? I have no idea. I imagine for some people yes, for more no.

But now the question that sums up the whole stalemate:

Who do we care?

No one cares unless the character is gay. That’s my problem. For all the side stories, extra vids, lore expansions, in game cutscenes, whatever else that portray a straight person don’t elicit any response to anyone.

No one ever posts “why are they telling me this person is straight.” No one asks “why does it matter if they hero is straight.”

People who post those things after a character is gay.

To me there has to be a reason for that. And I think that reason is kind of crappy.
Have they actually come out and specifically said a character is straight?
 
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For those who didn't watch the video, which seems like it could be possibly everyone in this thread, seeing as no one is talking about the details:

1) This wasn't a reaction to Soldier 76. This has been "known" since before the game was released.

2) This doesn't appear in the game at all, and instead comes from a series of comic book stories that were released before Black Ops 4 came out, and designed to introduce you to all of the specialists.

3) Even in the comic, it's never outright stated that Prophet is gay, which is why it took so long for someone to even bring up this subject in the first place. Why Driftor is CERTAIN he's gay simply because he holds a dying friend is beyond me. This was either the writer being subtle, or a mistaken inference.

4) This whole topic brings to mind the interesting debate of just when should people consider something canon? Because it's never stated in the comic, but no one seems to be arguing this, even in the comments section of that video. If it's not stated directly, but the author of the comic confirms it over twitter (which I'm not even sure is true in this case), is it canon then?
 
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Have they actually come out and specifically said a character is straight?
Of course they have. Lol at @Nymphae liking your post. Glad I ignored that troll. (All Netflix content is “woke?” LMAO)

I’ll use TLOU as an example.

Joel is a straight man. Wife, daughter.

Could have been a gay man with adopted daughter, but no, just a straight dude. No one has issue, or even mentions anything about Joel being straight in any discussion regarding the game. And they shouldn’t, because it doesn’t matter.

Of course characters are revealed/portrayed as straight in video game lore. Was that even a serious question?

Now, Ellie kisses a girl in TLOU trailer and

REE REE REE REE REE REE

No one ever talks about heterosexuality in video game lore, period. And they shouldn’t. If a creative decision is made to include a non-hetero character in lore then we have blastoff

If you can’t see the hypocrisy than I guess we just disagree. It shouldn’t matter to anyone, either way.

Every gay character doesn’t need a thread on GAF. Gay, straight, bi, anything, IT DOESNT MATTER.
 
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I have no issues with there being gay character. My raised brow comes more from revealing this right after blizzard announced their gay character. So this seems like a reactionary “oh! Oh! We have a gay guy too!”
 
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Do gay characters in your videogames bother you? If sudden reveals of homosexuality are the problem how could developers handle it better in the future?
Ignoring your first question because it’s stupid and moving onto the second, I’m no game developer or writer so I don’t have a solution nor do I care to think of one. I’m just poking fun at this trend lately of developers or shareholders or whoever is doing it announcing one day “Hey btw, that character from that game we released months (or even years) ago? They totally fuck other dudes/ladies when they’re not capturing the objective or getting killstreaks or whatever.”

There have been gay characters in games before and nobody batted an eye. This new thing they’re trying to do just seems forced, like a blatant grab for recognition that they don’t really deserve.
 

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Ok. Maybe it is. So what? What does that change?
Token characters don't help anyone. They just come off as cheap pandering to the lowest demographic. That isn't making gaming "more inclusive", nor is it "progressive". It is a cheap way out to simply appear as caring when they don't actually give a shit.
 
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How can you have a go at someone for posting gaming news 🤷‍♀️ If it doesn’t interest you keep it moving
 
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But it shouldn't matter, I had zero interest or hint at what the characters sexual preferences was.
He could be call Pamela on weekends for all I know, he might have a thing for Rihanna or Roseanne Barr
Or maybe Brad Pitt
But it doesn't matter because he is a blank slate.
All this does is separate him because it needs to be pointed out.
Is that really what they want?
What do you mean pointed out? If you saw him in a hetero relationship you wouldnt think they where pointing out that he is in a hetero relationship?

They're not pointing out anything you are.
 
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What do you mean pointed out? If you saw him in a hetero relationship you wouldnt think they where pointing out that he is in a hetero relationship?
Has CoD ever really concerned itself with the relationships of it's characters? Honest question, outside of this current example, I'm not aware of any games in the franchise that feature any character relationships.
 
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Of course they have. Lol at @Nymphae liking your post. Glad I ignored that troll. (All Netflix content is “woke?” LMAO)

I’ll use TLOU as an example.

Joel is a straight man. Wife, daughter.

Could have been a gay man with adopted daughter, but no, just a straight dude. No one has issue, or even mentions anything about Joel being straight in any discussion regarding the game. And they shouldn’t, because it doesn’t matter.

Of course characters are revealed/portrayed as straight in video game lore. Was that even a serious question?

Now, Ellie kisses a girl in TLOU trailer and

REE REE REE REE REE REE

No one ever talks about heterosexuality in video game lore, period. And they shouldn’t. If a creative decision is made to include a non-hetero character in lore then we have blastoff

If you can’t see the hypocrisy than I guess we just disagree. It shouldn’t matter to anyone, either way.

Every gay character doesn’t need a thread on GAF. Gay, straight, bi, anything, IT DOESNT MATTER.
It sounds to me like you are making assumptions. I know gay man that has dated another gay man that was previously married and had kids. Now again i'll ask. Did they specifically go out of their way to say a character was straight or are we going on just assumptions?