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so i kinda played zombies for the first time ever..
I don’t know what the fuck happened to me.
But i suddenly woke up 2 days later.
With that purple diamond shotgun skin.

zombies is legit CRACK man
Fuck demon souls
Fuck miles morales...

That zombie mode makes me want to go back to past COD games and try out those too.

the gameplay flow of kiting zombies turned me into some outer worlds zen machine.

only diablo 3 did that to me.

and the unlockables.. oh my god the unlockables... this game is a giant carrot on a stick..

i didnt even play the campaign yet on ps5
All i fing do is play zombie mode
 

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so i kinda played zombies for the first time ever..
I don’t know what the fuck happened to me.
But i suddenly woke up 2 days later.
With that purple diamond shotgun skin.

zombies is legit CRACK man
Fuck demon souls
Fuck miles morales...

That zombie mode makes me want to go back to past COD games and try out those too.

the gameplay flow of kiting zombies turned me into some outer worlds zen machine.

only diablo 3 did that to me.

and the unlockables.. oh my god the unlockables... this game is a giant carrot on a stick..

i didnt even play the campaign yet on ps5
All i fing do is play zombie mode

i gotta check zombies soon.
Weird, with BLOPS 4 i exclusively played zombies. maybe touched the multiplayer 4 - 5 times.
With CW I have been playing multiplayer, and played zombies maybe twice.
It was laggy as fuk when I did try it out.
 

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i gotta check zombies soon.
Weird, with BLOPS 4 i exclusively played zombies. maybe touched the multiplayer 4 - 5 times.
With CW I have been playing multiplayer, and played zombies maybe twice.
It was laggy as fuk when I did try it out.
Playing on ps5
That 120FPS mode is something else man.

smooth as hell. It just feels so good. Everything just feels amazing gunwise.

like destiny 2 came really close
 
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I was having lag issues in the last few weeks of zombies so I put that on hold but agree it's crazy addicting. I never played it more than a little bit but this one really grabbed me.
 
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After watching a video on the "skill-based matchmaking" I am more annoyed with it than ever. It's not like a ELO ranking or something. It's literally just, "Did you win a few games recently? Ok, prepare to get fucked over by the other team being stacked with people who have twice your overall K/D for 2-3 games in a row."

According to what people are saying, it's only based on your recent batch of games, whether it's 5 or 10 or whatever. And it's designed just to manipulate you on a phycological level to keep you playing and grinding with highs and lows. It has almost nothing to do with skill at all other than the game purposely finding people of a way higher skill you should never play against to bend you over and pack your shit in.
 
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After watching a video on the "skill-based matchmaking" I am more annoyed with it than ever. It's not like a ELO ranking or something. It's literally just, "Did you win a few games recently? Ok, prepare to get fucked over by the other team being stacked with people who have twice your overall K/D for 2-3 games in a row."

According to what people are saying, it's only based on your recent batch of games, whether it's 5 or 10 or whatever. And it's designed just to manipulate you on a phycological level to keep you playing and grinding with highs and lows. It has almost nothing to do with skill at all other than the game purposely finding people of a way higher skill you should never play against to bend you over and pack your shit in.
it's called getting gud
to make an omelet you need to break some eggs,

Just stop playing MP PVP if you can't stand losing honestly.
i stopped playing that shit years ago.
 
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I don't get it, I'm no CoD monster but I've been tearing it the fuck up on Nuketown.

The grenade launcher is my shit. The flak jacket is fucking BS though, sometimes I've hit guys with 2 direct hits, plus a semtex area blast, and they still don't fucking die. Gimme a fucking break man they're point blank grenades, it wouldn't be so bad if there were other perks worth using in that category, but basically they want you to take the grenade/flash/stun protection, so everyone is eating grenades like candy.
 

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After watching a video on the "skill-based matchmaking" I am more annoyed with it than ever. It's not like a ELO ranking or something. It's literally just, "Did you win a few games recently? Ok, prepare to get fucked over by the other team being stacked with people who have twice your overall K/D for 2-3 games in a row."

According to what people are saying, it's only based on your recent batch of games, whether it's 5 or 10 or whatever. And it's designed just to manipulate you on a phycological level to keep you playing and grinding with highs and lows. It has almost nothing to do with skill at all other than the game purposely finding people of a way higher skill you should never play against to bend you over and pack your shit in.

It’s the exact same experience as Modern Warfare, play like a god for 3/4 games, go 40-7 etc, followed by 3/4 games that are all sweat fest 15-14 etc, followed by 3/4 games of getting absolutely owned, then rinse and repeat in a constant cycle, I got fed up of it in MW by February.
 

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it's called getting gud
to make an omelet you need to break some eggs,

Just stop playing MP PVP if you can't stand losing honestly.
i stopped playing that shit years ago.
You clearly didn't understand that and haven't actually looked into this system in any way.

Imagine a game with an actual ranking system. There are tons of them. You're matched up with people in your skill level or slightly above. If you beat the people slightly above, you move up incrementally.

This is a system that wants to train you to have highs and lows. So it matches you with people you will destroy (I get 25-4 games as if I was some COD God) and then it matches you against people who are guaranteed to wreck you. It's not about getting good. It's about you feeling up and down in a cyclic nature to fire off the right neurons to keep you hooked. It's not a skill-based system at all and it's not designed to help you get better.
 
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You clearly didn't understand that and haven't actually looked into this system in any way.

Imagine a game with an actual ranking system. There are tons of them. You're matched up with people in your skill level or slightly above. If you beat the people slightly above, you move up incrementally.

This is a system that wants to train you to have highs and lows. So it matches you with people you will destroy (I get 25-4 games as if I was some COD God) and then it matches you against people who are guaranteed to wreck you. It's not about getting good. It's about you feeling up and down in a cyclic nature to fire off the right neurons to keep you hooked. It's not a skill-based system at all and it's not designed to help you get better.
It's a garbage system. Anyone else find themselves subconsciously easing off during the games where you're wrecking everyone because you know you're going to pay for it a game or two down the line? I do.

The only thing we can do is stop buying the games. Reckon this will be my last one.
 
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It's a garbage system. Anyone else find themselves subconsciously easing off during the games where you're wrecking everyone because you know you're going to pay for it a game or two down the line? I do.

The only thing we can do is stop buying the games. Reckon this will be my last one.
It's a shame because I really like a lot of the maps, the guns, ect. The camo grind is (mostly) fun. It's a good game screwed over by a choice to manipulate people.

Look at how rare it is to have a close game on the objective modes. You're either spawn camping the other team with all the points in Domination or they are doing it to you. I think it would be so much more rewarding to have an actual ranked system, or at the very least, just pair up players in the same skill levels so there are good matches getting played.

But, clearly, they know what they're doing. They hired some psychologist to help them hook teenagers to their product like a drug and they know better than I do.
 
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its a shit game that's stole everything from MW.

I'm going to try the ps5 version but i'll probably go back to MW soon.
 
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same still hooked on zombies

I haven't even played it yet, well I did for 7 minutes. Just finished the campaign a couple days ago, people always bitch about this and everyone said it was only 5 hours, I dunno, took me several casual sessions over like 3 or 4 days to get through it all and do all the optional missions. It was well put together and fun imo.

I do want to dig into zombies because sometimes I don't want that high octane PvP and I just want to chill and shoot things. Is there only that one mode, Onslaught? I thought Zombies was like a campaign of sorts, when I tried it it looked like there was only one mode, Onslaught, and it was multiplayer by default so I had to wait in a lobby, then when I started, I didn't even know where the other players were and I had to follow some orb around that attracted zombies. I did this twice, died before "beating" the level whatever that means, and went back to multiplayer.
 

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I haven't even played it yet, well I did for 7 minutes. Just finished the campaign a couple days ago, people always bitch about this and everyone said it was only 5 hours, I dunno, took me several casual sessions over like 3 or 4 days to get through it all and do all the optional missions. It was well put together and fun imo.

I do want to dig into zombies because sometimes I don't want that high octane PvP and I just want to chill and shoot things. Is there only that one mode, Onslaught? I thought Zombies was like a campaign of sorts, when I tried it it looked like there was only one mode, Onslaught, and it was multiplayer by default so I had to wait in a lobby, then when I started, I didn't even know where the other players were and I had to follow some orb around that attracted zombies. I did this twice, died before "beating" the level whatever that means, and went back to multiplayer.

I really liked the campaign and i think it was one of the best cod campaigns in years.
Zombies can be played in SP no PVP shit at all.
Just start with the shotgun

You have two modes the onslaught is ps4/5 exclusive and is in normal MP maps.
and the new die machine map.

I prefer the die machine map, That is supposed to be the classic ZOMBIES experience.
It's filled to the brim with easter eggs too.
 
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I really liked the campaign and i think it was one of the best cod campaigns in years.
Zombies can be played in SP no PVP shit at all.
Just start with the shotgun

You have two modes the onslaught is ps4/5 exclusive and is in normal MP maps.
and the new die machine map.

I prefer the die machine map, That is supposed to be the classic ZOMBIES experience.
It's filled to the brim with easter eggs too.

Perfect thanks I will look for that other zombies mode soon, I had no idea.
 

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Zombies mode in Infinite Warfare was really fucking good. Along with the singleplayer campaign it was the best thing about that year's CoD.


 
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Just got Cold War. Wish me luck guys!

Any tips for weapons? Going to go straight to the multiplayer, and planning to play the campaign in the weekend.
 
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Zombies mode in Infinite Warfare was really fucking good. Along with the singleplayer campaign it was the best thing about that year's CoD.


damn i have that game is it included in the base?
need to boot it up then
 
Loving Die Machine zombies.. still trying to figure out all the different easter eggs/missions, but finally figured enough out to be able to do the 20 round extract almost every time (unless I get caught on some random thing). Need to start trying the endless mode.. but I don't know that I ever have time for that.

Love that you can use Zombie mode to level up guns you don't normally use, and get new camo's and reticules.

Finally hit Prestige 3/Level 155 in time for the new season to start. How exactly will seasons work? It says you keep your prestige level, so what actually resets?
 

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Finally hit Prestige 3/Level 155 in time for the new season to start. How exactly will seasons work? It says you keep your prestige level, so what actually resets?

Curious about this myself, I'm at like P2/88 right now would like to hit 100 at least before whatever gets reset is reset.
 

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I've played very small amounts of Zombies in almost every COD game but never felt that hook... what am i missing? I always enjoy SP and MP but zombies never really grabbed me like it does some people.
 
I've played very small amounts of Zombies in almost every COD game but never felt that hook... what am i missing? I always enjoy SP and MP but zombies never really grabbed me like it does some people.

I alternate with playing with a few friends I know (with mics etc) so we can coordinate and that's fun, in a co-op sense of teaming up to tackle objectives, bosses, etc. I also play with randoms, who usually never talk, but that's fun too because you can kinda do your own thing and it really has a sort of ZEN about it, where you're kiting this huge mass of zombies around the map, toss a decoy to get them clustered and the WHAM C4 kaboom! The basic structure of the game, killing zombies to get points, using points to upgrade guns, killing more zombies, getting perks/etc is a fun loop that rewards you pretty fairly I guess. I like the 20 round version because it has a defined end you can strive for. Getting the crystals/etc to upgrade the perks/etc is also nice, and keeps you playing.

TL;DR, it's fun
 

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damn i have that game is it included in the base?
need to boot it up then
Should be yes, unless they've frankensteined it into different parts over the years? I doubt it.

In any case if you enjoy Zombies then deffo give that one a go. Along with the mode in BLOPS3 it was my favourite zombies experience.
 

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Loving Die Machine zombies.. still trying to figure out all the different easter eggs/missions, but finally figured enough out to be able to do the 20 round extract almost every time (unless I get caught on some random thing). Need to start trying the endless mode.. but I don't know that I ever have time for that.

Love that you can use Zombie mode to level up guns you don't normally use, and get new camo's and reticules.

Finally hit Prestige 3/Level 155 in time for the new season to start. How exactly will seasons work? It says you keep your prestige level, so what actually resets?
Curious about this myself, I'm at like P2/88 right now would like to hit 100 at least before whatever gets reset is reset.

I've been holding off adding prestige details to the OP because it's still pretty unclear but I think it goes like this:

At the start of a new season, everyone who has already prestiged will start at Season Prestige level 1. You will keep any prestige "tiers" (I guess you could call it), so if you made it to Prestige level 3 you can rank up to Prestige tiers 4-7 in Season 1. If you only made it to Prestige 2, you'll play for Prestige tiers 3-6. The seasonal prestige emblems you unlock will probably be the same regardless of which tier you started at and which one you get up to.

The real question for me is what exactly will be in the Prestige shop to unlock with the Prestige keys you get at each tier. They've mentioned vintage Prestige emblems from past Black Ops games but it's unclear if you get that from the Prestige Master 1-1000 once you hit max level each season or if emblems is all that's in the prestige shop. I'm hoping there's at least some unique weapon blueprints because if emblems is all it is, then I don't see the point in unlocking multiple keys if all you're going to get is your favorite emblem.
 

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The real question for me is what exactly will be in the Prestige shop to unlock with the Prestige keys you get at each tier. They've mentioned vintage Prestige emblems from past Black Ops games but it's unclear if you get that from the Prestige Master 1-1000 once you hit max level each season or if emblems is all that's in the prestige shop. I'm hoping there's at least some unique weapon blueprints because if emblems is all it is, then I don't see the point in unlocking multiple keys if all you're going to get is your favorite emblem.

Yeah I read about emblems somewhere and thought that was pretty boring, they better add blueprints
 

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Should be yes, unless they've frankensteined it into different parts over the years? I doubt it.

In any case if you enjoy Zombies then deffo give that one a go. Along with the mode in BLOPS3 it was my favourite zombies experience.
Yeah man i read online that BLOPS3 is the fan favorite.. shame i can't find it in a sale ever.. i just want to complete version for a decent price.

I have the ps4 PSN version. But the DLC is like 50 euro's or so
 
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Yeah man i read online that BLOPS3 is the fan favorite.. shame i can't find it in a sale ever.. i just want to complete version for a decent price.

I have the ps4 PSN version. But the DLC is like 50 euro's or so

That's in the PS Plus collection I believe
 

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I just hope there is more goodies coming, before playing this I was playing WW2 on PS4 and there were so many unlocks for that it was crazy, you'd get things through supply drops or prestiging weapons, I felt like I barely scratched the surface of the unlockable content and I played a fair bit.

When they updated Cold War the first time, I got a couple operator outfits, 2 weapon charms and 2 blueprints, but I was left wondering where and when we will be able to get more of these, I want better weapon charms, the WW2 ones were decent and there were a lot of them.
 

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took me like 2 days to unlock that purple fuck-cannon .
It's purple like the color of your asshole after i'm done with trusting it into you
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man COD zombies is crack
 
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If I buy the Battle Pass and don't own Cold War do I still level it up playing MW multiplayer as well as Warzone?
 

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Do they not release patch notes like I see with fighting games? Isn't there a detailed list released of what was buffed and nerfed and adjusted and whatnot?
 

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I've been holding off adding prestige details to the OP because it's still pretty unclear but I think it goes like this:

At the start of a new season, everyone who has already prestiged will start at Season Prestige level 1. You will keep any prestige "tiers" (I guess you could call it), so if you made it to Prestige level 3 you can rank up to Prestige tiers 4-7 in Season 1. If you only made it to Prestige 2, you'll play for Prestige tiers 3-6. The seasonal prestige emblems you unlock will probably be the same regardless of which tier you started at and which one you get up to.

The real question for me is what exactly will be in the Prestige shop to unlock with the Prestige keys you get at each tier. They've mentioned vintage Prestige emblems from past Black Ops games but it's unclear if you get that from the Prestige Master 1-1000 once you hit max level each season or if emblems is all that's in the prestige shop. I'm hoping there's at least some unique weapon blueprints because if emblems is all it is, then I don't see the point in unlocking multiple keys if all you're going to get is your favorite emblem.

THis might be a dumb question...but from what I was reading...this is the system they have added to MW as well right?
 

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Battle Pass Trailer:


THis might be a dumb question...but from what I was reading...this is the system they have added to MW as well right?

Yeah, progression is supposed to be synced across all three games now (CW, MW, WZ).
 
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Almost all the SMGs got a range buff.

M16 and AUG nerfs are essentially they slowed down the speed in which you can fire bursts, and the headshot damage lowered to potentially cut down on the one shot kills. It's not a huge nerf but at least its something.

All the shotguns got nerfed

Do they not release patch notes like I see with fighting games? Isn't there a detailed list released of what was buffed and nerfed and adjusted and whatnot?

 
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I know it's the noob tube, but I wish they would make the grenade launcher more effective. Or really, make it so the flak jacket only protects you from one explosive shot. That's fair, you brought a perk for that specific purpose, you get one freebie.

But I'm literally hitting guys with 2 grenade launcher rounds, PLUS getting semtex AOE damage, and they're still not dying I just see the flak jacket damage indicator. Last night I was literally 4 feet from a dude, launched it into his back and needed to finish him off with an assault rifle. Come on, it's not like it's trivially easy to actually hit someone with the grenade and not just the blast.
 
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