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Can Battlefield 2042 be saved?

Hestar69

Member
not really, the other games were broken because of bugs, underneath were good games.

with bf2042, you have technical bugs and a poorly designed game. If they fix the bugs you’re still going to be stuck with a boring game that has some absolutely terrible design decisions that no one wanted

EA could fix this if they wanted to be pretty much Dice would have to spend another year on it.

They’re first content update will tell us a lot.
I don't remember bad company 2,but since BF3 ppl have been complaining how broken and bad the games have been at the start. They can easily turn it around and make the game great.

-Add more guns ASAP (seriously the choice in guns is pathetic)
-Add more maps to portal ASAP
-Fix the hit reg and gun bloom
-Remove the xp limit on portal servers
-Keep adding more game modes
-Add levolution to maps/redesign the maps
-Add ingame scoreboard
-Let people join/pick SQUADS

That's just off the top of my head.

Will see what happens,I really hope they turn it around.Especially since I bought the gold ed..
 
I played the game for the first time in weeks today, it felt better but I just got frustrated and quit after one game. The game has no soul BF is pretty much dead to me.

I will give it one more chance in like 6 - 12 months but I don't expect them to change the things that ruin it for me. BF4 was the last BF game that I played and and I didn't play it as much as the previous installments. I'm either too old with bad eyesight and reflexes to enjoy competitive FPS games anymore. I just don't think these type of games are for me anymore.

Though I still enjoy playing BF4 somewhat...

People saying the game is broken just like the past games were and that's true they were all broken but honestly the fundamentals just aren't there - I was one of those people expecting it to be borked at launch but I'd still love playing it like I did the other modern BF games. Specialists, balance, maps designed around 128 players poorly, skill ceiling, missing key features... these things I don't think they will fix and at the moment they're game breaking for me. No server browser, no community, the time it takes between matches even the time between death and spawn I'm not really very good and I spend more time just waiting. My way to play BF is to find a good player or squad, team up and support them, ammo, spawn beacons, medic, reps and gun for a good vehicle player. There is basically no way for me to play the way I like to play because if I just happen to randomly find someone I'd like to continue playing with and supporting within 5 minutes the match is over I've lost them and I just feel disappointment. It is NOT fun.

I want to refund but I've played 50 hours so far so I have no chance of that.
 
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Starfield

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They'll be ok.

I played a bunch today and finally played some of the other modes and the game is actually in great shape for a BF title only 1 month in. Fully playable, a few issues here and there like the scoreboard and normal performance stuff you see early on, but nothing game breaking.

In terms of specialist, I can see it simply put on optional and on the main games they just have all the classes to the other BF titles and put the rest of the 75 weapons in, but tbh, I wish that was the main problem lol That isn't shit to me. I still fucking revive, give out health, ammo etc Not much has change with my style of play and I feel the overreaction on it is a bit silly and way too hyperbolic.

The hit detection, scoreboard and performance should be the focus as nothing is fucking stopping anyone from just playing in Portal..... They literally put a whole ass mode in for people to PLAY HOW THE FUCKING WANT TO PLAY, to even still cry over this shit is crazy as it sounds like the gaming community simply loves complaining about shit. Someone literally could have told people that they wish Poral was a thing and explained its core concept and I'm 100% most would literally not shut the fuck up about how THAT is what they should have included, and they would have bought it day 1, and old DICE would have done it and they'd loooooove it if it was that etc

Yet.....when they do, folks would actually just focus on other things to complain about. So its hard to even gauge what is a real complaint. Look back at the BF4 complaints about "small" maps and how its Call Of Duty now cause Team death match and Metro map from BF3 lol Even look back at people crying about the BFV maps...


but hey, we are suppose to believe those maps are bad, but also big maps are bad, more people is bad, more options to play is bad.

The more I look at this, the more I realize Portal makes more sense for BF as the community literally has so many ways they want to play and have others play etc. That makes more sense for the future of the IP imho as many seem to want to ignore Portal exist, so they can complain about optinoal things....=)

The fact that BFV with all the hate that it got, low sales and all was able to even move almost 9 million units and get years of support, I believe faster updates, Portal and the free maps that can come to not just 2042 time frame, but PAST BF titles, will keep it alive and it will do just fine.

its already doing several times better then BFV that was suppose to flop based on neckbeard youtube screaming. lol

Being mad doesn't mean everyone feels that way folks and we've been down this road before with so many games. Wasn't Call Of Duty suppose to flop cause someone was downvoting on Youtube? OH yea low steam numbers, Call Of Duty is donez everyones /s lol
how much
 

Ironbunny

Member
Played again few matches of conquest after not playing it over a week. Had endless reload sound bug, hit regs still not registering all the time. Died behind barriers couple of times due the low tick rate. Game runs somewhat smoother and the sounds of the game are way better then it was at start. Gameplay still feels booring and theres mostly no teamplay. Lets try again after week or two.
 

BadBurger

Gold Member
It's gonna be funny revisiting this thread in six or so months.

 

Boomalla

Member
BF2042 devs took a huge swerve in the wrong direction and it didn't work, removing classes plus 128 players on maps that are too big just sucked the fun out the game.
 
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the only good thing they've made since BF 4, is this Portal thing. If they just abandon 2042 and put all their resources into Portal. They will become a success story and ppl will play it.

but it sounds like they are doubling down on 2042's horrible core. BFV gameplay wasn't good, BF1 gameplay wasn't good. 2042's gameplay isn't good. It would take a herculean effort to turn this into a good BF game. Something they aren't capable of. Which is admitting fault and scorch earthing this thing
Ehhh i agree except with BF 1. Bf 1 gameplay was fine. I get not liking it esp with the weapons and vehicles but It was their biggest release for a reason. It was diffrent but that was understandable given the WW1 time period. 2042 is dumpster fire of bad ideas and rushed expiriments.
 

squarealex

Member
or is it too far gone.

Releasing a broken and unfinished Battlefield game is something we know since Battlefield 3 atleast, however this time around its not even the bugs and performance problems that is making this new installment a chore to play. This time the very fundamentals of the game itself are completely broken. From the game forcing you to play as so called "specialists" with the abundance of normal classes to boring map design, "hero shooter" vibes where people who play good don't get appreciated bc "everyone's a winner"....its just a mess.

Can DICE really fix this game this time around?

My own opinion is that its really too far gone this time, they will never make changes to their hero shooter styled gameplay imo.

What do you think?
Is already saved... 64vs is great, rush mode is pretty cool, major issues was fixed. Portal mode give much possibility (BF3, BF1942, BFBC2) if you want "classic" BF (playing BF3 Character on map of 2042)


Just playing and stop listening random twich player/youtube hater.
 
Stop it...major issues arent fixed. Just because some of you are easily pleased by just going "pew pew" at each other doesn't mean this game is actually worth spending time on. The UI is the worst in the series. The social aspect (chat & squad customization) of the game is non-existent. Theres horrible vehicle balance. Disappointing low amount of weapons and their customizations(attachments). The worst audio/music/sound mixing in the series. The Specialists and their loadout setup completey throws off balance and class purpose. (Not too mention just outright cringe) The maps are poorly designed open spaces of death. The weather events are a gimmick that do nothing . Portal mode is only a slight taste of the classics. Its quite evident somethings not right with the newest game modes... because 64 player Rush mode using last gen maps IS alot more fun. Ive been playing this since Day One Early Access. Everyone is entitled to enjoy whatever game they want but stop trying to make it seem that the game just has some server issues and its being overblown. IS social media dogpiling on BF 2042? Yes. Is it unwarranted? NO! Theres plenty wrong with Battlefield 2042 and EA/DICE made that bed. Let them lie in it.
 
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SJRB

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Is already saved... 64vs is great, rush mode is pretty cool, major issues was fixed. Portal mode give much possibility (BF3, BF1942, BFBC2) if you want "classic" BF (playing BF3 Character on map of 2042)


Just playing and stop listening random twich player/youtube hater.

The fact that you point out the option to play older Battlefields in this game as a pro kinda sums it up, no?
 
Thank God we finally have a thread to discuss BF2042 so the usual suspects can circle jerk once again, was worried the other ones wouldn't be enough to sustain them.

To answer your question what does "save" mean? Cause my short answer would be yes but by my context it'd simply mean the game would get to a good place where I could easily recommend it and enjoy it. But if being saved means it becomes the dominant #1 mp game in the market then no I don't see that happening regardless of its condition.

People forget that the mp market didn't use to be so saturated and where before people tend to play one game now people are spread across multiple, me included. I play Warzone, Destiny 2, and BF2042 with friends, sometimes I go days without playing any one of those games but it's more due to time than anything.

Speaking of Destiny, like BF if you went by the same people who on here like to spew the same one liner nonsense over and over you'd think Destiny is dead and never got a sequel. But even after it's terrible start its doing quite well and has great player retention.

People love to shit on things, they love to dogpile and be part of the mob, that's why it's called mob mentality and it's also why they rarely can interject any actual credible or intelligent response to a post like this beyond a quick drive by post or gif response so they can get their reacts and bounce out sapping up any chance of real conversation. This happens with so many games/topics it's tiresome.

I said it in another thread, if you truly don't like something simply move on, there are enough good things to occupy your time with then to allow a shitty thing to absorb a single second of it, and yet every single time it's the same people "LoLzzz not worth the bandwith", "they'd have to pay me", "call me when it's free".

BF so far has received great updates and if it continues on that path it will not only get better but be one of the better BF games. Some maps need to be addressed for sure and there are still some minor bugs to iron out but at this point I remain optimistic, but it's up to EA to make good on their word about being all in and supporting this game moving forward knowing the blowback they received from the fans already.
 
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nothing is fixed on this piece of crap. nothing.
Then you have post like this, so you're not even attempting to argue in good faith, just straight up spout nonsense. I'm well aware of the issues BF had before the patches and still has post patches (which I've bitched about).

Think before you post, don't start a thread if you just want to vent, should be a place for discussion, not this bs. Go to the official reddit page for that garbage.
 

Starfield

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Then you have post like this, so you're not even attempting to argue in good faith, just straight up spout nonsense. I'm well aware of the issues BF had before the patches and still has post patches (which I've bitched about).

Think before you post, don't start a thread if you just want to vent, should be a place for discussion, not this bs. Go to the official reddit page for that garbage.
I don't see how specialists with their cringe voicelines are fixed. I don't see how performance is fixed (only than reducing player numbers, wow!). I don't see how the terrible map design is fixed either where you have almost no cover and have to sprint for miles to get from one objective to the other if you can't call in transport. I don't see how that lame ass Hazard Zone mode is fixed, its basically dead now on every platform. XP and progression in Portal isn't fixed either. There is nothing of value in this Battlefield game and people like YOU are part of the problem, telling "complainers" to give them a pad on their shoulder, "good faith" blablabla. Are you Santa Claus?

Don't start me on simple things such as server browsers, scoreboard, UI design, stats, and on and on and on and ooon.
 
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Tams

Member
If they wanted to do this shit, they should have resurrected Battlefield: Heroes. Even if it would have been late to the party.

I'd have actually played that (again) and even shelled out some money for some shitty worthless microtransaction for a sheep hat or something.

If Battlefield 1 could be saved.
I believe this game can be saved.

By the time the game gets its first major content drop and/or hits EA Play it needs to be near completely sorted.
That influx of players will stick with it if when they jump in at that time the game is actually worth while.

As is right now a couple serverside patches arent going to be doing much.


Im so disappointed in DICE, I was really looking forward to Battlefield 2042, the product they gave us just isnt up to snuff.
Battlefield 1 was never bad.
 
I don't see how specialists with their cringe voicelines are fixed. I don't see how performance is fixed (only than reducing player numbers, wow!). I don't see how the terrible map design is fixed either where you have almost no cover and have to sprint for miles to get from one objective to the other if you can't call in transport. I don't see how that lame ass Hazard Zone mode is fixed, its basically dead now on every platform. XP and progression in Portal isn't fixed either. There is nothing of value in this Battlefield game and people like YOU are part of the problem, telling "complainers" to give them a pad on their shoulder, "good faith" blablabla. Are you Santa Claus?

Don't start me on simple things such as server browsers, scoreboard, UI design, stats, and on and on and on and ooon.
Game is really good and 100 times more fun than BFV

Fuck the haters. Seriously. People praising BFV have no clue how V was when it launched, missing half of its features, broken maps, broken systems, broken gameplay and bugs bugs bugs

This game feels more polished (albeit still a buggy mess but when it comes to Battlefield launches this one has been the smoothest so far)

The two real problems right now are server stability and performance.

I see many people not being able to play the game rn bc its poorly optimized and servers like to die often, especially in Breakthrough when the entire server is focused on one zone.

I suggest to stay away from Breakthrough until devs fixed that server issue

This post right here is exactly the reason why we will continue to get shitty AAA releases at launch, cause customers will willingly hand over their money and then defend the broken product funnily enough against their own former WORSE shitty product, can't make this shit up.
This is a comment you made in the BF2042 review thread at its launch and also my response to which you never responded.

But of course NOW you're the white knight going to battle against this terrible product on behalf of all those who should never have to suffer a second playing any terrible game, give me a fucking break. See the problem is YOU are 100% the EXACT reason why the very thing you apparently hate exist in the first place, cause you blindly blow your load for these games before ever allowing them to actually have to prove themselves to you first. I waited for a handful of patches, I played my 10 hour trial first, I waited for a half off sale, and THEN and only then I jumped in and justified my purchase. You parachuted in like a brainless child on day 1 and defended it like a grunt on the battlefield taking orders from EA themselves and now you want to make a thread as if you want to have a genuine conversation when really its just you wanting to vent your buyers remorse.

The game has been out for a month, neither one of us have ever made a videogame, they are well aware of the multitude of issues the game has and if you want to pretend that the things they have addressed in the short time the game has been out is not commendable then have at it but its more than most developers have done. I have not once given them a pass like YOU or many others on this forum have for the shitty state the game launched in and even when I give them praise I still mention the MANY issues I have with the game, the problem is I can actually discuss the game with more than one brain cell unlike yourself and don't go into full retard mode and flip flop each week. I talked shit on this game at launch and as time went on I have back tracked on things as patches went live and I have given it more time, which shocker, makes actual sense, that is a normal trajectory for stepping back and judging a product. Maybe actually understand that next time cause again YOU are the reason EA and other companies feel they can continue to keep forcing developers to release games in this state cause you will continue to blindly defend them until you finally break and realize its a broken product.


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Ehhh i agree except with BF 1. Bf 1 gameplay was fine. I get not liking it esp with the weapons and vehicles but It was their biggest release for a reason. It was diffrent but that was understandable given the WW1 time period. 2042 is dumpster fire of bad ideas and rushed expiriments.
BF1 was their biggest release because of the success of BF4 and it was their first time going back to the World War setting in decades.
It did not have the staying power or core fanbase love. It was only praised by gaming journalists and the type of ppl that will like anything. Actual BF fans that loved BF4 didn't like it and had the same complaint that it felt like a reskinned Star Wars Battlefront, which itself was a dumbed down version of Battlefield.

It looked great. Had a cool setting aesthetic, and i did enjoy the DLC maps, single player and Operations. But actual core BF conquest and the general gameplay was a miss, and an obvious step down
 

EDMIX

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Thank God we finally have a thread to discuss BF2042 so the usual suspects can circle jerk once again, was worried the other ones wouldn't be enough to sustain them.

To answer your question what does "save" mean? Cause my short answer would be yes but by my context it'd simply mean the game would get to a good place where I could easily recommend it and enjoy it. But if being saved means it becomes the dominant #1 mp game in the market then no I don't see that happening regardless of its condition.

People forget that the mp market didn't use to be so saturated and where before people tend to play one game now people are spread across multiple, me included. I play Warzone, Destiny 2, and BF2042 with friends, sometimes I go days without playing any one of those games but it's more due to time than anything.

Speaking of Destiny, like BF if you went by the same people who on here like to spew the same one liner nonsense over and over you'd think Destiny is dead and never got a sequel. But even after it's terrible start its doing quite well and has great player retention.

People love to shit on things, they love to dogpile and be part of the mob, that's why it's called mob mentality and it's also why they rarely can interject any actual credible or intelligent response to a post like this beyond a quick drive by post or gif response so they can their reacts and bounce out sapping up any chance of real conversation. This happens with so many games/topics it's tiresome.

I said it another thread, if you truly don't like something simply move on, there are enough good things to occupy your time with then to allow a shitty thing to absorb a single second of it, and yet every single time the same people "LoLzzz not worth the bandwith", "they'd have to pay me", "call me when it's free".

BF so far has received great updates and if it continues on that path will not only get better but be one of the better BF games. Some maps need to be addressed for sure and there are still some minor bugs to iron out but at this point I remain optimistic, but it's up to EA to make good on their word about being all in and supporting this game moving forward knowing the blowback they received from the fans already.

This 1000x. I believe they can very much turn things around as what I'm playing right now is way better then launch week and the fixes are coming faster then any BF I've seen before it, we literally waited months for BF4 to be fixed and thats a great BF. 2042 has some option to literally remove a feature in real time, so I'm not too worried about their capability to fix it, its already happening at a very fast pace.

I also agree with your point about this whole mob mentality thing, I haven't seen much real discussion about real features or things that need to be patched, simply mindless bashing for the sake of it.

Like... well...

nothing is fixed on this piece of crap. nothing.

This adds "nothing" to the thread and for god sakes, you are the one that made the fucking thread. Why did you make it to ask this only to attack and bash people and spread false statements when an answer is given that you don't like? I don't buy that you even care if "it can be saved" you want to simply have a hate thread to bash it. Who is going to believe this shit when your reply is "nothing is fixed"


So ignore 300 plus fixes, but we should believe you when you say "nothing" yet you act shocked that 4 million plus bought it in a week?

When you keep lying to folks to be hyperbolic or for shock value or to mindless zombie bash a game, it starts to work against you when those comments exaggerate a bit too much. 300 fixes is a bit different then "nothing"...

I don't see how performance is fixed

Nah, you don't want to see it. Thats it. That is a on going thing in any MP game that will see it patched and updated over time, but I don't that is why you are here tbh.

things such as server browsers, scoreboard, UI design, stats

I want those things patched and corrected too, but I don't think you even care. You seem to only want to state it, cause its not in the game...not cause you care, but to bash it.


How the fuck do we know that when those things get updated in the game you just state "nothing is fixed" and then proceed to goal post some other shit? do you not see how someone might not take this shit seriously and just buy the game? Do some you really not get THIS is why Battlefield and Call Of Duty literally were at the top of the UK and NPD charts?

Have real discussions with real criticisms, relax on lying, hyperbole and exaggerating shit and people might listen, but if every year its this whole "THE SKY IS FALLING" and or "ohhh dear NOTHING is fixed" all it takes is for one person to just google it, look it up, play it themselves to realize you are lying about this, thus they buy the game and ignore that mob mindset.

Its why once again both games are at the top of NPD and UK charts....

If you can bring up what is needed to be fixed, you can acknowledge what was fixed too. Its not saying the game is perfect, far from it and it needs lots of updates, but lying about patches and updates doesn't make anyone really buy that you even want to discuss how it can be fixed.

You made this thread to attack users that like the game and to bash the game. (not even sure how long this thread will stay up tbh) As to why 300 fixes = nothing in this thread to you as your goal is to ignore that to attack users.
 
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Starfield

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This 1000x. I believe they can very much turn things around as what I'm playing right now is way better then launch week and the fixes are coming faster then any BF I've seen before it, we literally waited months for BF4 to be fixed and thats a great BF. 2042 has some option to literally remove a feature in real time, so I'm not too worried about their capability to fix it, its already happening at a very fast pace.

I also agree with your point about this whole mob mentality thing, I haven't seen much real discussion about real features or things that need to be patched, simply mindless bashing for the sake of it.

Like... well...



This adds "nothing" to the thread and for god sakes, you are the one that made the fucking thread. Why did you make it to ask this only to attack and bash people and spread false statements when an answer is given that you don't like? I don't buy that you even care if "it can be saved" you want to simply have a hate thread to bash it. Who is going to believe this shit when your reply is "nothing is fixed"


So ignore 300 plus fixes, but we should believe you when you say "nothing" yet you act shocked that 4 million plus bought it in a week?

When you keep lying to folks to be hyperbolic or for shock value or to mindless zombie bash a game, it starts to work against you when those comments exaggerate a bit too much. 300 fixes is a bit different then "nothing"...



Nah, you don't want to see it. Thats it. That is a on going thing in any MP game that will see it patched and updated over time, but I don't that is why you are here tbh.



I want those things patched and corrected too, but I don't think you even care. You seem to only want to state it, cause its not in the game...not cause you care, but to bash it.


How the fuck do we know that when those things get updated in the game you just state "nothing is fixed" and then proceed to goal post some other shit? do you not see how someone might not take this shit seriously and just buy the game? Do some you really not get THIS is why Battlefield and Call Of Duty literally were at the top of the UK and NPD charts?

Have real discussions with real criticisms, relax on lying, hyperbole and exaggerating shit and people might listen, but if every year its this whole "THE SKY IS FALLING" and or "ohhh dear NOTHING is fixed" all it takes is for one person to just google it, look it up, play it themselves to realize you are lying about this, thus they buy the game and ignore that mob mindset.

Its why once again both games are at the top of NPD and UK charts....

If you can bring up what is needed to be fixed, you can acknowledge what was fixed too. Its not saying the game is perfect, far from it and it needs lots of updates, but lying about patches and updates doesn't make anyone really buy that you even want to discuss how it can be fixed.

You made this thread to attack users that like the game and to bash the game. (not even sure how long this thread will stay up tbh) As to why 300 fixes = nothing in this thread to you as your goal is to ignore that to attack users.
You seem to be able to write alot of words that accumulate to nothing. Congrats.

Keep fighting the fight soldier, I'm sure EA is very proud of you...or they probably don't care.

In the first 10 hours or so I was thinking, hey this could be a good game, but once the pink glasses are gone and honeymoon's over you'll notive very quick how shallow and bad this game is and not just riddled with bugs and glitches, as a BF player you're used to that. However that game is broken in its core and I'm not sure how they ever going to fix that. Hence this thread. I want people to give their opinion if they think it can be fixed or if it can't.

Seems like it won't be.
 
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You seem to be able to write alot of words that accumulate to nothing. Congrats.

Keep fighting the fight soldier, I'm sure EA is very proud of you...or they probably don't care.

In the first 10 hours or so I was thinking, hey this could be a good game, but once the pink glasses are gone and honeymoon's over you'll notive very quick how shallow and bad this game is and not just riddled with bugs and glitches, as a BF player you're used to that. However that game is broken in its core and I'm not sure how they ever going to fix that. Hence this thread. I want people to give their opinion if they think it can be fixed or if it can't.

Seems like it won't be.
I adore that you completely ignored my response to you above AGAIN, but nevertheless it's there for everyone to see your hypocrisy. You are 100% the thing you keep claiming everyone else is, I think that's why you're so pissed, you're lashing out at everyone else as if it'll make up for all your bull shit from before.

Here is YOUR words to anyone who criticized BF2042 at launch in the review thread just in case you have some sort of memory loss:

"Game is really good and 100 times more fun than BFV

Fuck the haters...

This game feels more polished (albeit still a buggy mess but when it comes to Battlefield launches this one has been the smoothest so far)"

Go buy a mirror, look into it, and point and repeat "I am the problem" until it sinks in.
 

Starfield

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It's good they're fixing bugs and glitches but even if this game were completely bugfree it would still not be a good BF game. Hence why I say they fixed nothing so far. It is still the same thing and knowing EA they won't change a single thing. I hope they do. The only way REAL fixes happen is when the game gets abandoned by most. Wouldn't it be for the free weekend it would have sunk below 20k players already and keep dropping.

And if you believe the rumours that there is no new content going to be until March...well then, without fixes and content this is game is basically dead.


I don't even bother replying to you bc I can't be bothered to replying to someone who goes through a list of past comments, something what has been said during launch were opinions weren't 100% manifested yet.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

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I adore that you completely ignored my response to you above AGAIN, but nevertheless it's there for everyone to see your hypocrisy. You are 100% the thing you keep claiming everyone else is, I think that's why you're so pissed, you're lashing out at everyone else as if it'll make up for all your bull shit from before.

Here is YOUR words to anyone who criticized BF2042 at launch in the review thread just in case you have some sort of memory loss:

"Game is really good and 100 times more fun than BFV

Fuck the haters...

This game feels more polished (albeit still a buggy mess but when it comes to Battlefield launches this one has been the smoothest so far)"

Go buy a mirror, look into it, and point and repeat "I am the problem" until it sinks in.
Wholy shit, what a clown!
 
Battlefield as we know it needs a complete redesign. It's past wont save it. The current version is garbage.

They need to go back to the drawing board and make something new.

I'm fairly certain "making something new" is why this situation is playing out the way it is. All I know is I'm almost done farcry and I'm not sure if I should still hold off for more patches or what.
 
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spons

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Dime a dozen shooter released in a pathetic state. Ignore and move on. Hopefully the developer talent can be used for more interesting products in the future.
 
I don't even bother replying to you bc I can't be bothered to replying to someone who goes through a list of past comments, something what has been said during launch were opinions weren't 100% manifested yet.
It was one comment and I only knew of it because I responded to it directly, I didn't "go through a list", but you're just further confirming what I already knew, you're a 🤡
 

EDMIX

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I want people to give their opinion if they think it can be fixed or if it can't.
no you don't... you want to bash folks for liking the game. You only want a view that bashes it.
write alot of words that accumulate to nothing. Congrats.
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I'm sure EA is very proud of you
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Doesn't sound like anything of anyone fucking wanting people to give their opinions...=)

300 fixes were made, but its

"nothing"

Thus, you don't want any view that supports the game, there is no point to this thread where you only want to bash, attack users, personal attacks etc.

It's good they're fixing bugs and glitches but even if this game were completely bugfree it would still not be a good BF game. Hence why I say they fixed

Nah, thats not how that word is used even remotely. Fixed as in objective issues that need to be corrected, if you don't like the design that is a whole nother thread and I have nothing against that btw, but its like me making a thread like "can Breath Of The Wild be saved and or fixed" and as soon as someone list the patches and updates given I say the following..

"NOTHING has been fixed with this piece of shit...NOTHING" and or "I'm sure Nintendo is very proud of you" and or "its good Nintendo is fixing bugs and such, but what had happen waz, evnez with no bugz, its still not a good Zelda game, das why I sayz they fixeded nothing" In order to fix Breath Of The Wild, it needs to be small like OoT, dungeons, bring back N64 controlz, rolls.

So....this isn't a real fucking thread talking about objective fixes, updates, patches, its you being mad its not designed like this or that and starts to get into a fanfiction area. It means you can just argue against any response, goal post, back peddle, ignore patches, updates etc. Nothing can be done to address the issue you personally have with the game sir.

Here is YOUR words to anyone who criticized BF2042 at launch in the review thread just in case you have some sort of memory loss:

"Game is really good and 100 times more fun than BFV

Fuck the haters...

This game feels more polished (albeit still a buggy mess but when it comes to Battlefield launches this one has been the smoothest so far)"

lol that makes this even worse...

I waited til I played a good bit before giving a view on what I played. MP games are played over time, they are dynamic as one day the Mcom station was here and you could put C4 on a fucking atv lol, then its moved and a glitch is fixed etc, but you remember the time where it wasn't patched and it becomes part of community identity as one should take the good with the bad with this type of thing. Its everything as a whole, the crazy launch, patches and fixes, new maps etc. Thus, I can't tell someone how the fuck I'll feel over 400 hours of this game, I donn't know 100% what that will be like. I didn't for BF4 or BFV or any BF for that matter, I never knew Bad Company 2 would be one of my favorites or even BFV day 1, it was after patches, new maps, hundreds of hours etc. So I'd say that few of 2042 being um "100 times more fun than BFV" is what I caution people about from ANY FUCKING SIDE.

Good or bad. Have a fucking measured response, this is a forum about discussion of gaming and I feel the community does a horrid job at that. Its this hyperbolic good vs bad, evil vs righteous, THE WORSE, DA BEST lol Like holy fucking shit, take the hours needed to FULLY get that game and come back to us. Its why i can't rate a MP game from 1 fucking week after release as BF4 would be a no go and the worst, yet its my favorite based on what was done after, not based on the first 6 months or first few weeks.

We don't need those hyperbolic, hot takes, exaggerations. I like the game and I'm not saying this shit is 100x better then BFV, BFV is deeply underrated as people just jumped on that hate bandwagon instead of just focusing on what the game did well.

So I like 2042, I like the patches its getting thus far at the pace its getting and believe at this rate, it is one of the smoothes of the BF titles at this date compared to past BF titles. 100x more then BFV? This is where I don't jump on hot takes for exaggerative responses lol

who goes through a list of past comments

Its relevant. It shows you have a hyperbolic nature and generally can't be trusted to give a measured response. Its either the worst in history, 100x better then xyz lol come on man. Take the time to play, give a solid response after and know I'll have no issue reading it and responding vs personal attack, bash etc.
 

BLAUcopter

Gold Member
I suppose we should've all known better based of previous releases and their disastrous launches.

I'll keep playing this because I love the franchise and there's little else out at the moment that scratches the chaos of battle itch. If it gets better with patches then great, but I don't think many people will be coming back to this game any time soon and the franchise itself will struggle in future iterations.

You can't keep releasing games in this state and just expect people to be happy.
 
Thank God we finally have a thread to discuss BF2042 so the usual suspects can circle jerk once again, was worried the other ones wouldn't be enough to sustain them.

To answer your question what does "save" mean? Cause my short answer would be yes but by my context it'd simply mean the game would get to a good place where I could easily recommend it and enjoy it. But if being saved means it becomes the dominant #1 mp game in the market then no I don't see that happening regardless of its condition.

People forget that the mp market didn't use to be so saturated and where before people tend to play one game now people are spread across multiple, me included. I play Warzone, Destiny 2, and BF2042 with friends, sometimes I go days without playing any one of those games but it's more due to time than anything.

Speaking of Destiny, like BF if you went by the same people who on here like to spew the same one liner nonsense over and over you'd think Destiny is dead and never got a sequel. But even after it's terrible start its doing quite well and has great player retention.

People love to shit on things, they love to dogpile and be part of the mob, that's why it's called mob mentality and it's also why they rarely can interject any actual credible or intelligent response to a post like this beyond a quick drive by post or gif response so they can get their reacts and bounce out sapping up any chance of real conversation. This happens with so many games/topics it's tiresome.

I said it in another thread, if you truly don't like something simply move on, there are enough good things to occupy your time with then to allow a shitty thing to absorb a single second of it, and yet every single time it's the same people "LoLzzz not worth the bandwith", "they'd have to pay me", "call me when it's free".

BF so far has received great updates and if it continues on that path it will not only get better but be one of the better BF games. Some maps need to be addressed for sure and there are still some minor bugs to iron out but at this point I remain optimistic, but it's up to EA to make good on their word about being all in and supporting this game moving forward knowing the blowback they received from the fans already.

You make reasonable points, but I believe the game is fundamentally broken and while you say go and play something else I'm seemingly hard to please these days and none of those other FPS games appeals to me. I am no good with aim and I don't have enough time to play games like I did when I'm younger to 'git gud' enough to have fun playing online. I play for the team aspect, to be able to support my team. This part of the game is completely gone from 2042 so there is literally nothing for me to enjoy, I try to play but I just die and die and that is not fun. I can go back to BF4 and enjoy myself even if I'm not king dick at the top of the scoreboard I can do things that feel like I contribute to the team. 2042, nope. So many of the missing features might seem like little things but they add up to just make the game feel completely soul-less and not like Battlefield at all. The way it was marketed sucked me right in, I even enjoyed the beta. I feel like a sucker for buying the Gold edition at full price. I will not make that mistake again, I felt like EA had ruined things back in the BF4 days and stopped buying their games after that. I should have remembered how I felt back then but enough time passed that I forgot. I will not make that mistake again.

Sure you could say play in Portal but Portal is also broken for me with no persistence. Sure it's cool to have the old game modes in there but I can play those games by playing those other games, without being able to find custom servers worth playing and with no XP on custom games I see very little reason to try. I had fun playing BC2 rush but I was also disappointed because I'd done it all before for many hundreds of hours.

I will give it another chance in 6 - 12 months but I doubt I will enjoy it and I expect that BF is something that is in my past games wise now and I find that sad to think about since it's been such an enjoyable part of my life so far.
 

Urban

Member
So there was a free weekend and its still only 26k players on steam. Ill guess nobody even plays battlefield on steam even if its a free weekend...

Cant wait for the Damage Control fanbase response :D
 
How quickly they forget....


BF4 was a good game that you couldn’t play because of bugs. 2042 is a bad game. Smoothing out the servers is not what needs fixing with 2042.
 
You make reasonable points, but I believe the game is fundamentally broken and while you say go and play something else I'm seemingly hard to please these days and none of those other FPS games appeals to me. I am no good with aim and I don't have enough time to play games like I did when I'm younger to 'git gud' enough to have fun playing online. I play for the team aspect, to be able to support my team. This part of the game is completely gone from 2042 so there is literally nothing for me to enjoy, I try to play but I just die and die and that is not fun. I can go back to BF4 and enjoy myself even if I'm not king dick at the top of the scoreboard I can do things that feel like I contribute to the team. 2042, nope. So many of the missing features might seem like little things but they add up to just make the game feel completely soul-less and not like Battlefield at all. The way it was marketed sucked me right in, I even enjoyed the beta. I feel like a sucker for buying the Gold edition at full price. I will not make that mistake again, I felt like EA had ruined things back in the BF4 days and stopped buying their games after that. I should have remembered how I felt back then but enough time passed that I forgot. I will not make that mistake again.

Sure you could say play in Portal but Portal is also broken for me with no persistence. Sure it's cool to have the old game modes in there but I can play those games by playing those other games, without being able to find custom servers worth playing and with no XP on custom games I see very little reason to try. I had fun playing BC2 rush but I was also disappointed because I'd done it all before for many hundreds of hours.

I will give it another chance in 6 - 12 months but I doubt I will enjoy it and I expect that BF is something that is in my past games wise now and I find that sad to think about since it's been such an enjoyable part of my life so far.
I totally get where you're coming from. I'm 37yo, my first competitive shooter game was SOCOM and it's varied since then but for awhile now I really just play coop stuff. BF2042 been the first game in awhile where I have played consistently on the competitive side of things. Granted I played Warzone but me and my friends played that more casually. I had the gold edition pre-ordered, played the beta, and cancelled no joke before midnight when the beta ended, that is how much I hated the beta lol. I then proceeded to absorb as much launch info as I could cause I held out hope that maybe the launch product would somehow be much different but as we all know that wasn't the case.

Now here I am and I just got done playing for the last hour or so on a few conquest matches and dare I say...had a good time? I waited though which I have mentioned before, I didn't use my 10 hour trial until the first big patch so I had the benefit of a few fixes, then shortly after I believe it was 3.0 that released and that really fixed some of my personal issues I had and then I purchased the game which was around $40, now I am around 85 hours in.

I'd ask what type of role you like to play cause it sounds like we play the same style, I am either chasing after vehicles or reviving/resupplying my squad. The last two patches have really helped the later with marking medics around downed players and allowing medics to tag downed players so they know a medic is making their way over. Since patch 3.1 I get revived like crazy and there never seems to be a shortage of ammo. There is always an issues it feels of people not helping with vehicles but I feel that has been an issue in every BF game but this game for sure has roadblocks in the way that exacerbate the issue.

All in all like you said even with its warts and issues there isn't really another shooter that offers the same experience like BF. Halo is fun for what it is but it is more of an arena shooter, CoD is more of a twitch shooter, and I am not personally a fan of battle royale games outside of Warzone so I am kinda left with BF2042 filling a void even if the game itself has quite a few issues to iron out moving forward.
 

Leyasu

Member
Reading the first page of this thread makes me sad.

I was all up for getting BF this year, until I played the beta and started the free trial on GP. I still had 5hrs of my 10 left when they dropped the Halo MP, I uninstalled BF and never looked back. I was thinking about getting it half price, now I don't even think that I will bother.
 
ppl need to let go of the "buggy games can be fixed" scenario. This isn't a good game hindered by bugs. Its a bad game with poor design choices under a buggy game.

If you are truly honest, u understand that every design decision DICE has made since 2014 has been wrong. If u think the Star Wars games they made or BF1 & BFV are good, u just need to accept that ur wrong. These ppl aint made a good game since BF4.

Portal is its only saving grace. Because its a remaster of sorts of the actual good games they made decades ago. They need to sell that as a standalone product. And put all its resources into making Portal successful. Thats where the money is. Thats where the only fun is.
 

Grechy34

Member
They've already started balancing it. My problem with the game is that as an SMG player (who is not very good) the game just doesn't support weapons like this (shotguns are useless) as the maps are vast and sprawling.
 
Maps can be fixed…the fundamental issue is the specialist system which removes any sort of uniqueness to the way you play….some specialists are great but others are completely shit

the game needs to go back and stick with its 4 main class system….if they fix that it’s just a matter of making the maps have more cover points and strategic placement of the points and they can just tweak from there
 

Phase

Member
They should have two simultaneous games running.

-One small dev team for basically reskinning BF3/4 with new maps and better graphics.
-Another dev team (any size) to make a game with deep character lore, etc.

This way you keep your old fans by giving them what they want and keep your expenses low with a smaller team, and you can build out on the Battlefield name with your new direction.
 

EDMIX

Member
Maps can be fixed…the fundamental issue is the specialist system which removes any sort of uniqueness to the way you play….some specialists are great but others are completely shit

the game needs to go back and stick with its 4 main class system….if they fix that it’s just a matter of making the maps have more cover points and strategic placement of the points and they can just tweak from there

Maybe, don't kill me and let me explain lol

I don't agree with the specialist not being unique, by default they are more unique then the default solider we got before. Having played for a good number of hours, I don't hate Specialist, but I do see how it can effect the game, but its very hard to see when thats happening or if the non team play is really solely based on that. Don't hit me lol

let me explain.

Specialist having some ability locked to them is the old class concept, ie you NEED this to do that, so flying that drone, having the robo dog (not sure what the fuck its called lol) sensory gun etc. I have no issue with that btw as that was the old class set up, where it differs is where I feel the issue comes in.

Giving out health, ammo and all the weapons being freely selectable is a double edge sword. As in, one can just be a recon, with the ability to hand out ammo...but ones this happens, who is to say they NEED someone else to do this? Once the can for themselves, you'll see a more greedy player, but a more impowered player. In the no pats concept, I feel it can make sense as the entire structure of the world is different they are more so PMCs or mercenaries without a nation so that entire concept is thrown out the window, conceptually as lore anyway.

It is the the uniqueness of that customization that might effect team play, but that is up to the player like its always been in BF series. Someone just giving out ammo, health etc JUST for themselves would just do that in any other BF anyway, its hard to see if someone is doing that because the specialist set up, or because they are just a piece of shit in general lol

Need I remind folks, you can be a support with a LMG in BF4.....giving yourself ammo lol

So the customization is unique to the point of someone making some set up where they feel they don't need no DAMN TEAM lol I don't see anything here that argues its not unique, I see enough that states its unique enough that it might have players stay with the same setups and do Rambo First Blood things vs need the help of others or seek to help out the team, but again all that is based on the player. First thing I did was spam the shit out of health and revive people when I started playing 2042.


In terms of any update, I'd like to see them stay as I have nothing against the models or features, but I'd like to see weapon classes and ammo and health locked to a class vs just ability. Class system exist, simply not in the format like the last games. Having the characters in the game like in BFV where they are just avatars allows for those that did like them, to still play them, but those of us that want the old school set up are also allowed to have that to boost team play and to have a set up where we all need each other vs John Rambo free for all ala cart weapon set up. I think they could have had a better argument if they made a bigger focus on the world turning to shit and the set up so loose cause the world has no order or something, but that would also mean just having all the 75 weapons the base mode anyway lol Its like not those guns disappeared after 2042 or some shit lol but I digress. conversation for another day.

Phase Phase I agree, but I'm 99% sure that is what they are doing. DICE LA to continue Portal updates with free maps, some other team is working on some lore thing with the story. I think this entire fiasco only supports that Portal should just be the main mode anyway. BF has a deep history of being very different each game, as much as people keep making it sound like this or that is REALLY da change, the series has always been changing as we went from 1942 to 2142 to blowing shit up in Bad Company series with no prone, so the series has always been very aggressive and creative with those changes...fuck it, make Portal a bigger thing as imho 2042's concept should have JUST been about some shit where they are going in the future to save da past lol It would be this whole "man 2042 is sooooo fucked up, we need this time machin....woooooo where are we? bro...WHEN ARE WE" lol and its just all the old BF maps. I've said this theory years ago that I feel the can do that and really no one is going to care that much as the story has always been bad and we debate what should or shouldn't be in BF so much, it makes more sense to just give that over to the player like in past BF with custom servers and be done with it.
 
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Winter John

Member
Thought I'd try the game out again since I've got 9hrs30 mins of my trial left. It was in a better state than it was but that's not saying much. I tried searching for my buddy's Steam and PS gamer tags so we could team up but I couldn't find an option to do that which is fucking astounding, considering how much Dice were banging on about cross platform. As for gameplay just getting across the maps to a battle was a huge pain in the ass. I couldn't figure out how to spawn on my team. Seems like the only option was to spawn on a captured flag, travel for 10 minutes, get sniped and respawn. Fun. I actually had some difficulty finding a full match. A couple of times I was waiting in the menu while it searched for players. That was surprising. The game's just come out, I shouldn't be having to quit out and search again to find a full match. Maybe the servers were screwed or something. To be fair it did have it's moments. Driving around in a tank was fun. There were a couple of decent shoot outs. I reckon it'll be worth the $10- $15 price tag next year
 
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