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Can you see the difference between 60 and 30 fps? Test your ability inside!
- Thread starter Alo81
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Why does it suck for them (me)? Imo that would be preferable, since I don't get annoyed when a game is 'only' 30 frames per second.
I messed up in interpretting it, and had trouble noticing a difference at all between left and right. So I focused on the left, and noticed the bottom was definitely NOT as smooth, so I sorta passed?
But I don't believe Dark Souls is the greatest example, that was one that had to have 60 FPS hacked out of it, not as easily as something like a locked UE3 game anyway, and it doesn't look quite right compared to other games. There even seem to be frames missing even in the smoother ones.
But I don't believe Dark Souls is the greatest example, that was one that had to have 60 FPS hacked out of it, not as easily as something like a locked UE3 game anyway, and it doesn't look quite right compared to other games. There even seem to be frames missing even in the smoother ones.
It'd be best to just not get too upset at 30 FPS, and honestly after a brief readjustment period I usually don't care unless it's a genre begging for it (and even then I have leeway for certain racers) or the frame rate is erratic rather than a smooth 30, which bugs me way, WAY more.
shinobi602
Member
I don't even need to take that test, I can tell in an instant if a game I'm playing is 30 or 60fps.
Betta Lines
Member
No, you're right. If you cover one up and look at the other for a while, and then switch to looking at the other, it's far more obvious.Yeah the difference is pretty big. Only thing is that the gifs were very close together and could "trick" you as they seem to be the same scene. (blend to the same scene) Did take a couple of seconds per gif to see it.
Maybe a little more spacing between the comparisons gifs would differentiate the fps more.
But that is just me, may be wrong
Psychoward
Banned
The first one was too short for me to judge, but I got the last two right. Go me.
I had difficulty seeing this at first, but I can easily tell the difference in actual gameplay if something if something's 15, 30, or 60 FPS. Kind of a difficult test when they're side by side in a .gif. A video would be better (outside of YouTube due to the FPS cap).
60 FPS will always be better in my eyes.
60 FPS will always be better in my eyes.
Incendiary
Banned
Yeah I agree. I'm glad I don't have the problem of telling the difference.
I wonder if people's eyesight plays a factor. My vision is so bad that I'm close to legally blind without my glasses/contacts, and so maybe that matters.
baphomet
Member
Because if 60fps looks the same as 30fps then you're missing out on 60fps. 30fps games don't automatically look smoother to you, 60fps games look more sluggish.
Betta Lines
Member
Have you been to see The Hobbit in 'High Frame Rate'?
Broder Salsa
Banned
Yeah that was easy as fuck.
Yeah and it was a bit confusing with another right next to it, of another FPS.
Yeah and it was a bit confusing with another right next to it, of another FPS.
Yeah the difference is pretty big. Only thing is that the gifs were very close together and could "trick" you as they seem to be the same scene. (blend to the same scene) Did take a couple of seconds per gif to see it.
Maybe a little more spacing between the comparisons gifs would differentiate the fps more.
But that is just me, may be wrong
That's the issue I had.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Got them all. Seemed pretty easy.
That said, I don't really care if a game is 30 or 60 as long as its consistent.
That said, I don't really care if a game is 30 or 60 as long as its consistent.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Who can't see this? It's like 480 vs 720. Strange endeavour.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Ah, this is much easier. I got them after that.
Just took a glance to get all three right. For me, it's like seeing the difference between color and black/white. Night and day.
But the fact that so many in this thread didn't see the difference suggests that devs are right. I guess there's no reason for them to push for 60fps if many the most dedicated gamers can't spot the difference.
But the fact that so many in this thread didn't see the difference suggests that devs are right. I guess there's no reason for them to push for 60fps if many the most dedicated gamers can't spot the difference.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I just wish everyone could taste that sweet 60fps. When you can't tell, every game is just "Ehh, looks okay." But when you can tell it's "MY GOD THIS GAME IS MOVING LIKE BUTTER."
But I don't have an issue with 30 fps. Hell, I'd much rather a dev lock it at 30 frames instead of a variable 30-60 where the jumps distract the hell out of me.
Sidewinder
Member
First two were easy, last one took a little bit longer to figure out. Allthough I can see the difference, I don't really mind playing a game around 30fps.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Got them all right.
Also, were these taken in the Four Kings boss fight? That's clever.
Also, were these taken in the Four Kings boss fight? That's clever.
My hunch is that if you're used to 30 fps, you're less likely to see the difference from a move up to 60 fps. Whereas if you're used to 60 fps, you're more likely to notice the difference when dropping down to 30 fps.
Every game which is 30 fps locked on PC, like most of Double Fine's games and Dark Souls, I can tell immediately as soon as I start playing. I can see individual frames (like a slideshow) instead of a fluid animation.
Every game which is 30 fps locked on PC, like most of Double Fine's games and Dark Souls, I can tell immediately as soon as I start playing. I can see individual frames (like a slideshow) instead of a fluid animation.
Part of the annoyance from some of us though is that if they compromised visuals otherwise they WOULD hit 60 FPS, and I imagine 99% of the time we're not even going to miss those damn special effects that keep it from 60. MGR looks fantastic to me, and that's 60 FPS at a native 720p. In contrast Crysis 2 looks kind of hideous to me on 360, and that can't even hit a stable 30 FPS most of the time while being sub-native resolution, just so they can pump in all those details and effects. But then that IS a reason why my bigger beef is with pushing systems too hard for a stable 30, something like the older Bioshocks look just fine to me on consoles and I prefer the FPS locked just so I don't get insane tearing.
I dunno, this gif isn't the greatest way to see, but I think if most people played a game in 60 FPS they WOULD notice it's just smoother, even if they couldn't put their finger on why. Look at the hypothetical reasons for why CoD is so much more popular than other FPSes, or think back (if you have these memories) of getting to see 60 FPS games after many 30 or less FPS games. I'm sure the smoothness was mind blowing, especially if it was on a PC that was also going way further than consoles (especially in the PS1 generation.)
Game2Death
Banned
One got one right lol
David H Wong
Banned
No difference whatsoever.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
I got them all right but this test is shit. It's too easy to get muddled with them right next to each other - I suppose this is the "point" the blog is trying to make, but it falls to bits if you look at each individually. I already knew I can tell the difference in games.
Besides, the main advantage of 60fps is more controller responsiveness, not smoother looking images.
Besides, the main advantage of 60fps is more controller responsiveness, not smoother looking images.
Betta Lines
Member
It's not just about the look, it's the responsiveness. Many people wouldn't be able to pinpoint the framerate as to why Call of Duty is so fun, but it is absolutely key to its success.Just took a glance to get all three right. For me, it's like seeing the difference between color and black/white. Night and day.
But the fact that so many in this thread didn't see the difference suggests that devs are right. I guess there's no reason for them to push for 60fps if many the most dedicated gamers can't spot the difference.
The first one got me not the next two. It's obvious as they move which one is slower. If you can't see those difference it's not us with the bad eyes.
This less fps means less ability to respond according to what you see. It can be said a million times yet it's ignored. Counter strike 1.6 and recoil is one of the easiest ways to see how fps fucks you in a game that needs response.
This less fps means less ability to respond according to what you see. It can be said a million times yet it's ignored. Counter strike 1.6 and recoil is one of the easiest ways to see how fps fucks you in a game that needs response.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Nope. Only got the bottom right. The first two looked no different to me.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Yay I passed a test!
Anyway, ya I can see the difference. The smoothness man, the smoothness!
Anyway, ya I can see the difference. The smoothness man, the smoothness!
baphomet
Member
It's part of the reason, but far from being the most important reason. I'm expecting the next CoD to be 30fps on current gen and be just as successful as the previous have been. If we believe those Chinese Battlefield rumors that's going to be the same.
David H Wong
Banned
Film isn't smooth for you? You watch movies and think it looks choppy on the screen? How weird.
http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/604633
Really hard to NOT notice the difference...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/604633
Really hard to NOT notice the difference...