SonGoku
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Crapcom said:
Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/annual/2018/annual_2018_01.pdf
YIKES I really hope the fu7ur3 isn't the smartphone model
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Capcom switching their games from "one time purchase" model to "continuous recurring revenue" model
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Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/annual/2018/annual_2018_01.pdf
YIKES I really hope the fu7ur3 isn't the smartphone model
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
You can fuck right off, Capcom, if all you care about is corporate value.
Hudo
Member
I can understand this from a business point of view. I mean, EA make around 800 million with one game alone (FIFA) by applying a "continuous recurring revenue model". But as someone who only has bought 3 DLCs in his life and does own 90% of his games in physical form, I sincerely hope that Capcom's games don't become balanced towards this... Otherwise, I will wait for some "complete edition" or something or not play Capcom games at all, I guess.
That being said, if it takes shit like this to get Mega Man Legends 3 to happen, then just do it...
That being said, if it takes shit like this to get Mega Man Legends 3 to happen, then just do it...
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
It makes sense business-wise to have such games in your portfolio as it ensures regular revenue but I do hope that they don't do this with all their games and keep making classic Resident Evil games for instance.
masterwizy
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TheDuskwalker
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Capcom never learns, they just don't have enough whales like EA and Ubisoft, which is why there fighting game sales are in the toilet compared to what they once were. DMCV's microtransactions are a testing ground just like all of us with common sense assumed.
Spukc
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STOP buying AAA games day 1 ffs
There are way way way to many games to play anyway
ArnoldSewerby
Member
I'll wait for gold editions when they are on sale.
Resident evil just hit it's stride again, I hope they don't bugger it back up.
Resident evil just hit it's stride again, I hope they don't bugger it back up.
The Strifer
Neo Member
Man... this is really disheartening. Just as they were bringing themselves back into the spotlight too.
Silent Duck
Member
Well, that’s a coincidence... I was thinking about switching from the transactional model of purchasing Capcom games to the recurring method of NOT purchasing Capcom games.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
YIKES is the correct response.
I saw glimmers of this with the season pass in MvC Infinite (where it was built for the idea of a steady flow of characters and stages, but I think the licensing hurdles threw too many wrenches into those infernal gears).
Oh well. It was a good game, so was MHW, so was SF5 (eventually), and I've heard RE7 was also good. Maybe if we're lucky we can get some more remasters of their old arcade titles and maybe a Darkstalkers 4 before they fully commit to this nonsense.
I saw glimmers of this with the season pass in MvC Infinite (where it was built for the idea of a steady flow of characters and stages, but I think the licensing hurdles threw too many wrenches into those infernal gears).
Oh well. It was a good game, so was MHW, so was SF5 (eventually), and I've heard RE7 was also good. Maybe if we're lucky we can get some more remasters of their old arcade titles and maybe a Darkstalkers 4 before they fully commit to this nonsense.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
This is just code for micro transactions right?
DonF
Member
I truly don't get this statements. Its not like they can just remove features of a game and b00m, sell that.
Like the monetization of Resi 7. You can buy a coin that makes you more powerful, a coin that makes you tougher and a coin that makes both. Who the fuck thunk of that?!?! its the most stupid thing I've seen in a singleplayer game. I would love to have data of that, how many people got it. Its just so dumb.
I don't trust capcom on this regard.
Like the monetization of Resi 7. You can buy a coin that makes you more powerful, a coin that makes you tougher and a coin that makes both. Who the fuck thunk of that?!?! its the most stupid thing I've seen in a singleplayer game. I would love to have data of that, how many people got it. Its just so dumb.
I don't trust capcom on this regard.
AlexxKidd
Member
My ERA post:
SFV does this the RIGHT way. The ONLY purchases that are not cosmetic in SFV are the DLC characters, which by the way most fighting games nowadays will charge you for DLC characters. Welcome to 2018. Every other update in SFV is free. Anyone who purchased the base SFV back in 2016 is enjoying the Arcade Edition package and can play online with someone who just bought the "Arcade Edition" package yesterday. This is much better than segmenting the player pool by releasing "Super Hyper Turbo Alpha" updates where some people will buy the update, and some will not, thus chopping the players in half.
Like it or not, the Street Fighter V model is a thing a beauty (much like the game), and it is here to stay because it makes sense. Arc System Works could have learned from this before they chopped up the Guilty Gear Xrd pie three different ways with -Sign-/-Revelator-/Rev 2. That's bush league thinking these days. Maybe Street Fighter could withstand that because its Street Fighter but a niche title like Guilty Gear slowly kills off its already small userbase.
Learn from CapGOD.
(I'm speaking specifically for Street Fighter and fighting games. Don't know and don't really care how this plays in to their other titles)
SFV does this the RIGHT way. The ONLY purchases that are not cosmetic in SFV are the DLC characters, which by the way most fighting games nowadays will charge you for DLC characters. Welcome to 2018. Every other update in SFV is free. Anyone who purchased the base SFV back in 2016 is enjoying the Arcade Edition package and can play online with someone who just bought the "Arcade Edition" package yesterday. This is much better than segmenting the player pool by releasing "Super Hyper Turbo Alpha" updates where some people will buy the update, and some will not, thus chopping the players in half.
Like it or not, the Street Fighter V model is a thing a beauty (much like the game), and it is here to stay because it makes sense. Arc System Works could have learned from this before they chopped up the Guilty Gear Xrd pie three different ways with -Sign-/-Revelator-/Rev 2. That's bush league thinking these days. Maybe Street Fighter could withstand that because its Street Fighter but a niche title like Guilty Gear slowly kills off its already small userbase.
Learn from CapGOD.
(I'm speaking specifically for Street Fighter and fighting games. Don't know and don't really care how this plays in to their other titles)
Yep, game industry turning movie industry.
But with i think even less security for the workers.
I keep bumping into this persistent problematic view where the best of intentions run contrary to personal freedom and personal responsibility.
Let the market do its thing.
If this is what people want from Capcom, the new model will succeed. And if this is what people do want, what arguments do you have that might persuade them that what they want isn't what they should want but rather what you have in mind? And would that be just your opinion, or would it be something more substantial, say, objective? Because if it's just a matter of opinion, you have yours, they have theirs, and, by all means, to each his own.
And if this isn't what people want, if competition has elucidated them that there are better models out there, models offering more value per buck, then in the long run this new paradigm will have crashed and burned and the lesson will resound though the ages like no annoyed insular post would ever manage to.
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lukilladog
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They lost me with SFV.
iconmaster
Banned
Everyone in software wants to move their app, game or service to a subscription model.
People are only going to tolerate so many recurring subs.
People are only going to tolerate so many recurring subs.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I really hope capcom doesn’t embrace this new direction in their games because I think it could violently backfire on them in the long term when it seems they are gaining some ground again. They can try it with a few games, but if all of their games implement these tactics, then I feel it might be detrimental to some of their franchises.
Something like sf5 or marvel could work, maybe but I don’t want to see that for resident evil or mega man. People could be much more selective or wait on the inevitable complete edition later also.
Something like sf5 or marvel could work, maybe but I don’t want to see that for resident evil or mega man. People could be much more selective or wait on the inevitable complete edition later also.
Mr Hyde
Member
Everytime I read something like this, I´m more and more inclined to go full retro. The majority of the gaming biz seems to go in a direction that´s not suited for me. This generation has been really good, with some spectacular games to boot, but the warning signs are all there to what´s in store for the future. And those signs are nothing but trouble.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
There won't ever be a better time. This generation will probably be my last since my current + retro collection will be over 1,000 titles by the time PS5 and X2 come out.
decisions
Member
They've already been doing this for a long time. Could mean every game needs a special edition just like the majority of their games have. Also not buying DMC5, the most relatively feature-complete game they will probably release in the next five years upon launch, will only motivate them to put out more games like MHW and mobile games, and less single-player focused games with a beginning and end. Mostly the same could be said for RE2, but I expect that to have more DLC than DMC5.
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AdmiralMikey
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This seems like an unusual turn after the success of Monster Hunter World, now the best selling title in Capcom history, which was a single-purchase game that had tons of free updates and events. I hoped MH World would show Capcom that there is value left in just putting out a great product at $60.
Horsemama1956
Member
This is the direction things are going, Capcom may as well get a fairly early start on it.
Thiagosc777
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Retrogaming is the future.
Handy Fake
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"Games as a service".
cartman414
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If this means freemium or subscription they need to be bopped in the face.
ipukespiders
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SonGoku
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Bu bu bu but the orbs don't affect progression they said lol
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in the future all videogames will be netflix
Space Runaway
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Ugn. Well they better make a good SF6 first as SF5 is not the base model for SF I want to see continued indefinitely.