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Capcom's Svensson on AA Investigations 2 localization
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Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I hope it happens, I love the series amd it's one of the few times where I want to play every game/spin-off of a franchise. I also sincerely hope the game to be way much better than the mediocre AAI.
Hours Left
Member
The general fan reaction is that it improves on the first AAI in every way.
ShockingAlberto
Member
They probably correctly realized that AAI2 would be incredibly hard to get out to retail by the time the localization was done.
The problem is that admitting that makes them look bad and greedy. So they lie. They lie and they lie and they like. And this can apply to basically...well, anything Capcom USA has said in the last two years.
More to the point, any claim that they are trying to get the game ported to 3DSware or something, even if it's 100% true, would absolutely fall on deaf ears. Capcom Japan won't do it because Capcom USA asked. Even if we assume that Capcom USA has been truthful for so long, it means they are at best massively misinformed and at worst incredibly incompetent. That is, as I said, assuming they are not lying.
At this point, just telling the truth of "It was a generational transition, no store would have taken it, direct orders would not have justified the cost, we're sorry but these are special circumstances that do not affect the future of the series," would be a smart move. But they won't, because they've dug in and they'd rather give a dismissive handwave of "We're still trying!
" than the truth and a few weeks of furor over it.
I'm not going to say it's because they're assholes, but I will say they do their jobs badly whether they're lying or not.
The problem is that admitting that makes them look bad and greedy. So they lie. They lie and they lie and they like. And this can apply to basically...well, anything Capcom USA has said in the last two years.
More to the point, any claim that they are trying to get the game ported to 3DSware or something, even if it's 100% true, would absolutely fall on deaf ears. Capcom Japan won't do it because Capcom USA asked. Even if we assume that Capcom USA has been truthful for so long, it means they are at best massively misinformed and at worst incredibly incompetent. That is, as I said, assuming they are not lying.
At this point, just telling the truth of "It was a generational transition, no store would have taken it, direct orders would not have justified the cost, we're sorry but these are special circumstances that do not affect the future of the series," would be a smart move. But they won't, because they've dug in and they'd rather give a dismissive handwave of "We're still trying!
" than the truth and a few weeks of furor over it.I'm not going to say it's because they're assholes, but I will say they do their jobs badly whether they're lying or not.
PigSpeakers
Member
The translation never happen.
They probably correctly realized that AAI2 would be incredibly hard to get out to retail by the time the localization was done.
The problem is that admitting that makes them look bad and greedy. So they lie. They lie and they lie and they like. And this can apply to basically...well, anything Capcom USA has said in the last two years.
More to the point, any claim that they are trying to get the game ported to 3DSware or something, even if it's 100% true, would absolutely fall on deaf ears. Capcom Japan won't do it because Capcom USA asked. Even if we assume that Capcom USA has been truthful for so long, it means they are at best massively misinformed and at worst incredibly incompetent. That is, as I said, assuming they are not lying.
At this point, just telling the truth of "It was a generational transition, no store would have taken it, direct orders would not have justified the cost, we're sorry but these are special circumstances that do not affect the future of the series," would be a smart move. But they won't, because they've dug in and they'd rather give a dismissive handwave of "We're still trying!
I'm not going to say it's because they're assholes, but I will say they do their jobs badly whether they're lying or not.
Atlus got stores to take Devil Survivor 2 and you're telling me Capcom wouldn't have been able to get stores to carry this? Pretty much every store I go into still has a bigger DS than 3DS section.
They would have already had it out if they started translating it back when the game came out in Japan.
Hours Left
Member
They probably correctly realized that AAI2 would be incredibly hard to get out to retail by the time the localization was done.
The problem is that admitting that makes them look bad and greedy. So they lie. They lie and they lie and they like. And this can apply to basically...well, anything Capcom USA has said in the last two years.
More to the point, any claim that they are trying to get the game ported to 3DSware or something, even if it's 100% true, would absolutely fall on deaf ears. Capcom Japan won't do it because Capcom USA asked. Even if we assume that Capcom USA has been truthful for so long, it means they are at best massively misinformed and at worst incredibly incompetent. That is, as I said, assuming they are not lying.
At this point, just telling the truth of "It was a generational transition, no store would have taken it, direct orders would not have justified the cost, we're sorry but these are special circumstances that do not affect the future of the series," would be a smart move. But they won't, because they've dug in and they'd rather give a dismissive handwave of "We're still trying!
I'm not going to say it's because they're assholes, but I will say they do their jobs badly whether they're lying or not.
You think they'll just keep saying that they're still trying and to "be patient" indefinitely? It's been almost a year.
And Sven still makes a point to post in the AAI2 thread on the Capcom-Unity forums saying he's tracking the topic. It seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to if he's just prolonging some eventual let down. Especially when he's been so blunt before regarding other games.
IC_Champion
Member
If localization was a problem for Capcom, why not just hire the fans who are working hard who are translating this to localize it?
Professor Beef
Banned
Fuck off, Sven. You're one of the biggest goddamned liars this generation, so fuck you for trying to give people false hope.
I think that Sven would rather climb a tree and lie than stay on the ground and tell the truth.
thetechkid
Member
Because its Capcom.
Stores would carry it, but it would probably sell like crap. Let's be honest here.
When has that ever stopped Capcom in the past? Most games sell like crap.
Mega Man fans are still weeping.
this!
i would love the boxed game, but if that's the only easy way to get it i'm fine with it.
dragonlife
Member
Don't cocktease me, man. Say yes or no, dammit!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Damnit Capcom. Put this shit to rest and release the damn game in some shape or form. I don't care anymore. Put it on cell phones for fucks sake as long as I can just watch it on youtube. I just wanna know what happens to my favorite characters and the story.
I was holding a sliver of hope at a surprise announcement at Captivate but I guess that isn't going to happen. If Sven is a liar like everyone says I hope he is lying about it not coming out anytime soon and are prepping for a surprise announcement.
I was holding a sliver of hope at a surprise announcement at Captivate but I guess that isn't going to happen. If Sven is a liar like everyone says I hope he is lying about it not coming out anytime soon and are prepping for a surprise announcement.
Hours Left
Member
Sven made some new comments on AAI2's chances for a US release during the last "Ask Capcom". Again he said that he's still pushing for it and the talks with Capcom Japan continue and that he's "encouraged" and "optimistic".
Though he did reiterate that it won't be in the near future and that a DS release is still not in the cards. (This is inline with what he had previously said.)
You can see the stream of the Ask Capcom here. (The AAI2 talk starts around 37:20.)
Though he did reiterate that it won't be in the near future and that a DS release is still not in the cards. (This is inline with what he had previously said.)
You can see the stream of the Ask Capcom here. (The AAI2 talk starts around 37:20.)
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Even though I'm obviously not happy we haven't gotten the game, I do really respect that Sven keeps pushing for Capcom to give us the game.
WrenchNinja
Member
Wait, how does that explain Okamiden and Ghost Trick? They were released in the US around the time the 3DS was coming out, the "generational transition". Unless you mean they would never put out a game on the DS after the 3DS launch.At this point, just telling the truth of "It was a generational transition, no store would have taken it, direct orders would not have justified the cost, we're sorry but these are special circumstances that do not affect the future of the series," would be a smart move. But they won't, because they've dug in and they'd rather give a dismissive handwave of "We're still trying!
nckillthegrimace
Member
I don't know what else it could be. Maybe Capcom didn't want to release three DS games in close proximity, so it bet on the two games that didn't have an established, loyal audience.
TheBaldEmperor
Member
Thanks for posting that. I can't watch the video atm, did they say anything else about other localizations or mention MH3G?
Hours Left
Member
I'm listening to the rest of the stream right now, but nothing that interesting so far.
The only things that might be of some interest is that there will be no PC version of the DMC HD collection, and that Alien vs Predator re-release is probably not going to happen due to licensing. (No plans for a 3D Bionic Commando 2 either.)
Edit: I created a thread with a full recap here.
Sammy Samusu
Member
eShop/iOS is their best option.
And I really want to play Ace Attorney 1-3 in 3D. I'd pay $40 for a 3-in-1 value pack. U_U
And I really want to play Ace Attorney 1-3 in 3D. I'd pay $40 for a 3-in-1 value pack. U_U
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Oh man. More non news. At least Sven still chooses to acknowledges it. If he wanted he could ignore it and never speak about it again.
Would it be better or worse if he never spoke about it until it was confirmed? Because he's just going to repeat himself that he's trying until it comes out, which gets more and more unlikely with each day that passes. The Ace Attorney fanbase was really dedicated and they slipped up majorly with this.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Agreed.
Hours Left
Member
Sven did say in the stream that they don't keep just keep telling us to be patient with MH (and other titles in general) just to string us along. He said he'd rather say as much as he's allowed to as opposed to saying nothing at all. (He doesn't like "silence".)
If they actually have no plans to localize it, answers like his serve no purpose. It would be better to just flat-out admit that it's not coming like Sega did with Valkyria Chronicles 3 rather than slowly foster anger and resentment among Ace Attorney fans.
If the game is actually comes out, all will be forgiven.
It's been over a year since the Japanese release, this type of communication isn't really that much better than silence.
Yeah, I agree with this.
Could be, at least they could flat out say that.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are going to ignore the 3DS as well.
BassForever
Member
Just release it on the Eshop and iOS at the same time, that way everyone wins.
It's too bad certain companies prefer not to allow other companies to localize/publish/distribute their titles. I mean, if Nintendo is allowing XSeed to publish The Last Story, why can't Capcom give AAI2 to Atlus/XSeed/whoever??
Red Arremer
Member
Sven really should stop lying through his teeth at every opportunity he gets.
I think a move to the 3DS eShop would be good for everyone.
Femmeworth
Banned
I hate that goddamn pig. >:|we're still trying!
Sven needs to learn that sometimes saying nothing is better than spouting bullshit, to try and keep fans calm.
Me too!
