kunonabi
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I don't see anybody posting about it and everything is so scattered I figured I'd make a more dedicated thread. Feel free to close if unnecessary.
So I just got back from the movie and it was ok. It has a ton of issues and mostly gets by on Jackson to be honest.
The movie does a mostly terrible job of trying to take inspiration from 90s action flicks and Robocop. The 90s setting is mostly just cheap gags as are the feminist beats which feel bolted on at the last second as the ones in WW did. There are some subtext and themes you could see as feminist but you could just as easily not as their fairly universal to be honest. There may be some stuff I missed since its been awhile since my feminist theory coursework and feminism has changed quite a bit since those days. Regardless, I don't think the feminist elements are the biggest problem with the movie by a long shot and the early Ms. Marvel stuff and the current Captain Marvel comics incorporates stuff like that anyway.
The movies structure is one of the biggest issues. It has a fairly action packed opening and some action at the end but the middle is very low energy and not that interesting. I could see that working if the middle was filled with the kind of great character work that the directors' had in their previous films but their imprint is basically nonexistent much like the score.
Speaking of music the song selection is super on-the-nose and gimmicky. If they were going for 90s fanmade music videos then they nailed it.
Performances are kind of all over the place. Jackson and Mendelsohn are highlights and everyone else is serviceable aside from Larson and the girl playing Monica. Brie has the most personality in the beginning and it just sort of fades as it goes on. She'll have sparks here and there but she doesn't have any chemistry with the rest of the cast and she severely underplays the big emotional moments. Not that those are all that well setup to begin with. It doesn't hurt that most of what makes Carol interesting just isn't in the movie so her growth never helps her to become any less flat of a character. To be fair those traits are really more apparent in Carol's Ms. Marvel days but they're still sorely missed here.
There are some continuity things I found kind of problematic and I'm not a huge fan of how they handled a certain comic character or her origin but whatever.
If I had to rank it after one watch I'd put it in my Tier 3 which includes Thor: the Dark World, Thor: Ragnarok, and Iron Man 2. For the record the only movie I have lower than those is The Incredible Hulk.
So I just got back from the movie and it was ok. It has a ton of issues and mostly gets by on Jackson to be honest.
The movie does a mostly terrible job of trying to take inspiration from 90s action flicks and Robocop. The 90s setting is mostly just cheap gags as are the feminist beats which feel bolted on at the last second as the ones in WW did. There are some subtext and themes you could see as feminist but you could just as easily not as their fairly universal to be honest. There may be some stuff I missed since its been awhile since my feminist theory coursework and feminism has changed quite a bit since those days. Regardless, I don't think the feminist elements are the biggest problem with the movie by a long shot and the early Ms. Marvel stuff and the current Captain Marvel comics incorporates stuff like that anyway.
The movies structure is one of the biggest issues. It has a fairly action packed opening and some action at the end but the middle is very low energy and not that interesting. I could see that working if the middle was filled with the kind of great character work that the directors' had in their previous films but their imprint is basically nonexistent much like the score.
Speaking of music the song selection is super on-the-nose and gimmicky. If they were going for 90s fanmade music videos then they nailed it.
Performances are kind of all over the place. Jackson and Mendelsohn are highlights and everyone else is serviceable aside from Larson and the girl playing Monica. Brie has the most personality in the beginning and it just sort of fades as it goes on. She'll have sparks here and there but she doesn't have any chemistry with the rest of the cast and she severely underplays the big emotional moments. Not that those are all that well setup to begin with. It doesn't hurt that most of what makes Carol interesting just isn't in the movie so her growth never helps her to become any less flat of a character. To be fair those traits are really more apparent in Carol's Ms. Marvel days but they're still sorely missed here.
There are some continuity things I found kind of problematic and I'm not a huge fan of how they handled a certain comic character or her origin but whatever.
If I had to rank it after one watch I'd put it in my Tier 3 which includes Thor: the Dark World, Thor: Ragnarok, and Iron Man 2. For the record the only movie I have lower than those is The Incredible Hulk.
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. Still going to see it this weekend. If it’s a B or better great. Sam Jackson don’t let me down.
