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Caucaphobia: The Fear or Hatred of White People

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I posted this in the ‘We’re All Tired of Being Called Racists’ thread but I wanted to start a separate conversation about this subject. I am interested in how this contrast in racial language has reached the point it has. I have a feeling that the reason that there is a word for fear of black people but there isn't a term for fear of white people is ironically because the writers (and sculptors of our language) were predominately white. That is just a theory but I want to hear from others about this subject.

I don't really like labels but I do like beating someone else at their own game and if that is what it takes to point out the absurdity of the current Identitarian movement and bring it to an end then let's do it.

This morning I was curious what the term is for the fear of white people. I could be wrong but after some cursory research (Goooooogle) it seems one doesn't exist. So I am coining the term now.

Caucaphobe: one who strongly dislikes or fears black white people

Ok, so now that I have coined the term Caucaphobe, I would like to say to all the Caucaphobes that we aren't bad people. We're just like you and only want the best for our friends and loved ones. There are bad white people and ironically a lot of them are Caucaphobes too.

Now to the most interesting part of my research, a simple google query:




Now this is just Google which I am well aware is heavily manipulated but really what does it matter. This is what most people will see with this search I imagine. Not only is there nothing about fearing white people but every article can basically be boiled down to white fragility.

How is it that there is a dictionary defined word that has been around since 1900 for the fear or hatred of black people but there has never been a word for the fear or hatred of Caucasians, especially in this day and age of identity politics? There is a clear fear of white people with all this talk of White Supremacy and racism.

To all the Negrophobes and Caucaphobes and all the Otherphobes in general I would advise you to take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out exactly why you feel the way you do so strongly. Take some time for introspection because you certainly need it.
 
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Anti-Europeanism is probably a better term to start with.
The reason it doesn't exist in common discourse is not because there isn't a deep seated anti-European sentiment within Media/Academia, but rather because Europeans aren't allowed to recognize themselves as a unique group with shared interests of their own despite being apparent when looking at voting patterns and areas they live.
Europeans, instead of being considered a group, are considered a commodity, Access to European Communities, Cities, Countries is considered a "right" and denying others access to them is considered hateful. If a group of European Americans banded together to form a community for Europeans at the exclusion of others there would be hell to pay in the media and legal sectors. How dare they not grant other people access to their families, taxes, communities?
 

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Some of the talk of white supremacy is because it has reared its ugly head. The el paso shooter said he wanted to stop the browning of texas. He was not vague about his convictions.

Go on any chan site and you will find plenty of genuine white supremacists. Not just nationalists who happen to be white, but genuine ethnostate supporting white supremacists. 8chan has been linked to 3 shootings this year because it serves as a place for them to congregate. Basically the white version of how ISIS would spread its propaganda online. What may have started as a tongue in cheek shitposting culture became a real threat.
 
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Europeans aren't allowed to recognize themselves as a unique group with shared interests of their own despite being apparent when looking at voting patterns and areas they live.
This is definitely true from my perspective which is why I find the complete skewing of language (which consistently supports and even enables the White Supremacy argument) towards the one direction so baffling.

The idea of us being a commodity is quite profound too. I hadn't looked at it like that exactly but the current immigration crisis we have here in America along with the different immigration issues all over Europe definitely seem to support this idea.
 

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Some of the talk of white supremacy is because it has reared its ugly head. The el paso shooter said he wanted to stop the browning of texas. He was not vague about his convictions.

Go on any chan site and you will find plenty of genuine white supremacists. Not just nationalists who happen to be white, but genuine ethnostate supporting white supremacists. 8chan has been linked to 3 shootings this year because it serves as a place for them to congregate. Basically the white version of how ISIS would spread its propaganda online. What may have started as a tongue in cheek shitposting culture became a real threat.
They post their manifestos to 8chan because, due to the sheer number of boards and a stark lack of mods, it’ll take longer to be taken down.

Zero shootings have been planned on 8chan or 4chan.
 
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Some of the talk of white supremacy is because it has reared its ugly head. The el paso shooter said he wanted to stop the browning of texas. He was not vague about his convictions.

Go on any chan site and you will find plenty of genuine white supremacists. Not just nationalists who happen to be white, but genuine ethnostate supporting white supremacists. 8chan has been linked to 3 shootings this year because it serves as a place for them to congregate. Basically the white version of how ISIS would spread its propaganda online. What may have started as a tongue in cheek shitposting culture became a real threat.
I hear you and I think actual White Supremacy ideals like this guy supported are wrong. We also had an rape fetishist antifa shithead commit a mass shooting yet all I seem to be seeing from MSM and even Obama are calls to fight White Supremacy. It is maddening quite frankly.

When we all get lumped into White Supremacy simply because of our skin color is where I get so upset. It upsets me when the same thing is done to black folks too. I grew up arguing with my dad and uncles about how they talked about black people because I found it repugnant. This is no different.
 

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They post their manifestos to 8chan because, due to the sheer number of boards and a stark lack of mods, it’ll take longer to be taken down.

Zero shootings have been planned on 8chan or 4chan.
Didnt say they were literally planned there. I said they were linked to the shootings. Its where white supremacists go to congregate and spread their propaganda.

Go on those sites and see how they talk about jews, blacks, or mexicans. Its there in plain view for everyone to see. You dont even need tor; anyone here can see it right now on their phone.
 
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Some of the talk of white supremacy is because it has reared its ugly head. The el paso shooter said he wanted to stop the browning of texas. He was not vague about his convictions.

Go on any chan site and you will find plenty of genuine white supremacists. Not just nationalists who happen to be white, but genuine ethnostate supporting white supremacists. 8chan has been linked to 3 shootings this year because it serves as a place for them to congregate. Basically the white version of how ISIS would spread its propaganda online. What may have started as a tongue in cheek shitposting culture became a real threat.
Telling people that they can’t be proud of their heritage and that it is racist to be causes them to take on more radicalized beliefs. News at 11...

Tack on the fact that the hip new thing to do is blame all the problems in the world on one group and we we act like it’s shocking that those same people would start telling the ones blaming them to get out if they don’t like it.

Everyone wants to come be a part of western civilization and take credit from those who built it and blame the builders of it for making it work best for them. Talk about cultural appropriation.

It’s like squatting in someone’s home and bitching that they didn’t paint the walls to match your furniture.
 

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Didnt say they were literally planned there. I said they were linked to the shootings. Its where white supremacists go to congregate and spread their propaganda.

Go on those sites and see how they talk about jews, blacks, or mexicans. Its there in plain view for everyone to see. You dont even need tor; anyone here can see it right now on their phone.
You see plenty of insane opinions on there, all across the political spectrum. However, leftist insanity is encouraged on places like Tumblr and Twitter, where the only place right-wing insanity is allowed is on sites with little to no moderation like /pol/ board on 4chan and 8chan. So of course there’s gonna be more JQ, more Q cultists, more white supremacy, etc.

You will never get rid of those people. You should be thankful that they congregate in a place that you personally don’t care to visit, instread of having that level of activity everywhere.
 
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Didnt say they were literally planned there. I said they were linked to the shootings. Its where white supremacists go to congregate and spread their propaganda.

Go on those sites and see how they talk about jews, blacks, or mexicans. Its there in plain view for everyone to see. You dont even need tor; anyone here can see it right now on their phone.
You can go on facebook and twitter right now and basically see people doing the same towards white people. You don't have to go and hide your hatred of white people from the public sphere. Not you personally but anybody that wants to shit on white people. It is completely socially acceptable while doing the same towards any other skin color/race/ethnicity is treated as a sin against humanity.
 
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Telling people that they can’t be proud of their heritage and that it is racist to be causes them to take on more radicalized beliefs. News at 11...

Tack on the fact that the hip new thing to do is blame all the problems in the world on one group and we we act like it’s shocking that those same people would start telling the ones blaming them to get out if they don’t like it.

Everyone wants to come be a part of western civilization and take credit from those who built it and blame the builders of it for making it work best for them. Talk about cultural appropriation.

It’s like squatting in someone’s home and bitching that they didn’t paint the walls to match your furniture.
"More radicalized beliefs" that is putting it lightly. Ethnic cleansing is a bit radical, yes.

The majority of the white guilt nonsense ironically comes from other white people, so no need for the persecution complex. It doesn't give the people on those sites any justification to go online and spew their vile hatred at other races. Even they realize this since they do it anonymously.
 
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That good ol' DNA test will tell me which European Ancestors I best match with. "American" is a meaningless moniker when describing trangressions that are particularly aimed at European Americans.
Perhaps before the mid-20th Century, being Anti-American could have been conflated with Anti-European since Europeans were so core to US identity and demographics.
 
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"More radicalized beliefs" that is putting it lightly. Ethnic cleansing is a bit radical, yes.

The majority of the white guilt nonsense ironically comes from other white people, so no need for the persecution complex. It doesn't give the people on those sites any justification to go online and spew their vile hatred at other races. Even they realize this since they do it anonymously.
Who is committing ethnic cleansing? This type of hyperbole is the problem. Even the most hardcore of White Supremacists here in America aren't actually committing any form of ethnic cleansing or genocide. It is all just appeals to emotion.

Of course there are isolated incidents of hate crimes and those occur by and against all races.
 

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"More radicalized beliefs" that is putting it lightly. Ethnic cleansing is a bit radical, yes.

The majority of the white guilt nonsense ironically comes from other white people, so no need for the persecution complex. It doesn't give the people on those sites any justification to go online and spew their vile hatred at other races. Even they realize this since they do it anonymously.
It’s a vicious cycle. Humans have a strong ingroup preference, and demanding that the majority population forego their preference in favor of multiculturalism has lead to two paths of radicalization. One against the outgroup and one against themselves. The cringey whites hating themselves and calling for elimination of their own race are just as bad as the ones calling for genocide of other races.

Forcing people to like things or face social ostracization isn’t healthy.
 
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It’s a vicious cycle. Humans have a strong ingroup preference, and demanding that the majority population forego their preference in favor of multiculturalism has lead to two paths of radicalization. One against the outgroup and one against themselves. The cringey whites hating themselves and calling for elimination of their own race are just as bad as the ones calling for genocide of other races.

Forcing people to like things or face social ostracization isn’t healthy.
Combine that ingroup preference and the eternal fight for survival with a lack of actual physical enemies to fight and this is what we get. It is almost as if there needs to be some kind of middle ground for civilization or we are just going to burn ourselves out.

I can't remember or find it right now but there is a theory about teh consistent acceleration of technology and how it will inevitably lead to our demise if we don't stop. Probably has something to do with fractals and history repeating itself or something.
 

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Who is committing ethnic cleansing? This type of hyperbole is the problem. Even the most hardcore of White Supremacists here in America aren't actually committing any form of ethnic cleansing or genocide. It is all just appeals to emotion.

Of course there are isolated incidents of hate crimes and those occur by and against all races.
lol... What is with these posts?

Seriously, White people with a persecution complex? Get real, White people control most of the country, stop acting like they are being oppressed. The fact they have so much control is why there is no "whitephobia" that people speak of, because a person being afraid of White people isn't equal to a White person being afraid of any other minority and that is due to the power they have.
 

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Seriously, White people with a persecution complex? Get real
In a country built by Europeans, maintained by Europeans, and currently a country where Europeans aren't far from being politically disaffected and dispossessed through demographic change, Do you think the future majority minority populace is going to vote along the interests(demonstrable through voting patterns and political surveys) of the European Populace in America?

My money is on "no", given the stability of voting patterns.
I suspect they're going to vote for greater amounts of socialism which paid for largely by the largest populace who produces more Taxable Capital than they take out in services, the European populace. It's not about social conservatism, Europeans in America are less conservative than Minorities, but group Economic interests take primacy over social policies which is why minorities vote primarily Social Democrat. If you can have your progeny subsidized by other people's taxes, why wouldn't you?
 

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In a country built by Europeans, maintained by Europeans, and currently a country where Europeans aren't far from being politically disaffected and dispossessed through demographic change, Do you think the future majority minority populace is going to vote along the interests(demonstrable through voting patterns and political surveys) of the European Populace in America?

My money is on "no", given the stability of voting patterns.
I suspect they're going to vote for greater amounts of socialism which paid for largely by the largest populace who produces more Taxable Capital than they take out in services, the European populace. It's not about social conservatism, Europeans in America are less conservative than Minorities, but group Economic interests take primacy over social policies which is why minorities vote primarily Social Democrat. If you can have your progeny subsidized by other people's taxes, why wouldn't you?
Built by Europeans and maintained by Europeans? lol....

I see, you are a lost cause already. Stop calling White Americans "Europeans"... Like seriously. Vast majority of them don't even relate to Europeans beyond blood.
 
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An interesting part is that the fragile/afraid white people are getting played by white people, but still blame it on minorities.

If there were no minorities you'd still be fucked under our serve the rich brand of capitalism.
 

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An interesting part is that the fragile/afraid white people are getting played by white people, but still blame it on minorities.
When Europeans are no longer the majority in the country and don't hold enough political power, do you believe minorities will vote in European American interests or will they vote primarily in their own in-group's self-evident interests(again through voting patterns and surveys)?

The Marginalizing and Political Disaffection of Europeans in the countries they built can't be understated as a bad thing and a marked turn towards an unsustainable pattern of Socialism by people who aren't footing the bill for these policies.
 
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When Europeans are no longer the majority in the country and don't hold enough political power, do you believe minorities will vote in European American interests or will they vote primarily in their own in-group's self-evident interests(again through voting patterns and surveys)?

The Marginalizing and Political Disaffection of Europeans in the countries they built can't be understated as a bad thing and a marked turn towards an unsustainable pattern of Socialism by people who aren't footing the bill for these policies.
The rich whites will thrive, while the broke ones suffer the same fate that they do right now.

You could worry about all white people, or you could worry about yourself.
 
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That good ol' DNA test will tell me which European Ancestors I best match with. "American" is a meaningless moniker when describing trangressions that are particularly aimed at European Americans.
Perhaps before the mid-20th Century, being Anti-American could have been conflated with Anti-European since Europeans were so core to US identity and demographics.
In a country built by Europeans, maintained by Europeans, and currently a country where Europeans aren't far from being politically disaffected and dispossessed through demographic change, Do you think the future majority minority populace is going to vote along the interests(demonstrable through voting patterns and political surveys) of the European Populace in America?

My money is on "no", given the stability of voting patterns.
I suspect they're going to vote for greater amounts of socialism which paid for largely by the largest populace who produces more Taxable Capital than they take out in services, the European populace. It's not about social conservatism, Europeans in America are less conservative than Minorities, but group Economic interests take primacy over social policies which is why minorities vote primarily Social Democrat. If you can have your progeny subsidized by other people's taxes, why wouldn't you?
Did you immigrate to the US from Europe? Did your parents?

If no... You aren't a daggone European. You're a Caucasian person of the American persuasion.

White nationalists and supremacists call themselves Europeans.
 

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Good intention i guess but dumb sounding word and the funniest thing about it is that it would apply at least in the west heavily to middle class whites and muh whity lefty tech companies.. lol
 
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Only a few do. White people suffer just as much from what gigantic corporations have done to America like everyone else.
Dont be daft...

Obviously White people suffer (just as much is debatable) as well, but those ones that suffer, still vote to uphold the power of the ones that oppress them out of fear/hatred of minorities along with thinking minorities do nothing but drain the system. So no, not a "few", because they are putting these people into power out of their ignorance.

I know our school systems are a failure, but this is something one can easily know if they did a bit of research into U.S history from 1940s and onward.
 
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Dont be daft...

Obviously White people suffer (just as much is debatable)
You say this while a big opioid epidemic is happening its like you genuinely have no clue what is even going on which begs the question why open your mouth and eliminate any doubt?
 
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You say this while a big opioid epidemic is happening its like you genuinely have no clue what is even going on which begs the question why open your mouth and eliminate any doubt?
I am well aware of the opiod epidemic, I actually discussed this several times on resetera and its a symptom of a dying livelihood (rural living) and over-prescription of drugs. However, it is they themselves that are blocking ways to remedy their issue, its actually pitiful.

I find saying White people suffer just as much when they didn't go through slavery and Jim Crow in U.S to be insane. Why are you even trying to argue specifically with that statement you quoted?
 
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When Europeans are no longer the majority in the country and don't hold enough political power, do you believe minorities will vote in European American interests or will they vote primarily in their own in-group's self-evident interests(again through voting patterns and surveys)?

The Marginalizing and Political Disaffection of Europeans in the countries they built can't be understated as a bad thing and a marked turn towards an unsustainable pattern of Socialism by people who aren't footing the bill for these policies.
You don't even need to wait that long.

In a thread discussing the topic of why the AfroFuture Fest event were charging tickets at higher price to "non-POCs" than "POCs", this argument was presented:

Plus, this is an AfroFuture Fest. Wouldn't it make sense to focus on small black businesses than ALL businesses?
This kind of blithe rhetoric is enabled by time-travel reliant, context-free, selective logic arguments such as:
I find saying White people suffer just as much when they didn't go through slavery and Jim Crow in U.S to be insane.
It's really very simple.
You are either against racism or you are for it. There is no middle ground.
Once you centre your justifications based on race, you are standing on the line.
Once you endorse them you have crossed it.
 
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I am certainly of European heritage but honestly I don't know my ancestry and I am American. I don't see anything from a European perspective but when I visited Europe during my time in the Army it was nice. This is also why I don't need to be lumped in with Europeans that think like this:

May I refer to me earlier post calling Americans kinda retarded
lol... What is with these posts?

Seriously, White people with a persecution complex? Get real, White people control most of the country, stop acting like they are being oppressed. The fact they have so much control is why there is no "whitephobia" that people speak of, because a person being afraid of White people isn't equal to a White person being afraid of any other minority and that is due to the power they have.
I do believe that black people have been targeted in our country's past by laws, regulations and of course (some) white people. I also believe those things have set many of their communities up for failure and I would like to see that changed. But no, broad spectrum White Supremacy isn't a real fucking thing.

And what does control have to do with fear? That is the most idiotic thing I have heard. You're really all over the place and I am not sure I should have even bothered to reply.

So spending 5 minutes doing some light research on how language on race has been cultivated in this country and trying to have a conversation is a persecution complex?

 
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Dont be daft...

Obviously White people suffer (just as much is debatable) as well, but those ones that suffer, still vote to uphold the power of the ones that oppress them out of fear/hatred of minorities along with thinking minorities do nothing but drain the system. So no, not a "few", because they are putting these people into power out of their ignorance.

I know our school systems are a failure, but this is something one can easily know if they did a bit of research into U.S history from 1940s and onward.
DON"T BE DAFT...

Proceeds to be completely daft.
 

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Your question is answered easily. It's because you're searching in english. A predominantly white language.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uso_del_término_«hombre_blanco»_en_Estados_Unidos

Here is a spanish wiki about documented speech about the "whites". If you'd search in namibian or swahili you will find lots of white devil stuff on google.

Asian have this text too. Arabs have tons of it. Turkish people have a word for whites too I heard me be call it under people's breath when I worked with them.

Welcome to USA and english is not the world. And that's why you can't find info.
 
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An interesting part is that the fragile/afraid white people are getting played by white people, but still blame it on minorities.

If there were no minorities you'd still be fucked under our serve the rich brand of capitalism.
This is my biggest problem with the concept of White Supremacy. Its a complete lie. There are more white people in poverty in this country than any other race. It isn't a white thing at all, its a rich thing. I've got nothing in common with the 1% but my skin color.

To me it has always seemed obvious that all this race stuff is to keep us distracted from the real issue which is finding a way to more evenly distribute the profits these corporations are raking in so that the people putting in the sweat get some of the reward. Its a really fucking slow process but revolution would only ensure none of us would have that in our lifetime.
 
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Your question is answered easily. It's because you're searching in english. A predominantly white language.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uso_del_término_«hombre_blanco»_en_Estados_Unidos

Here is a spanish wiki about documented speech about the "whites". If you'd search in namibian or swahili you will find lots of white devil stuff on google.

Asian have this text too. Arabs have tons of it. Turkish people have a word for whites too I heard me be call it under people's breath when I worked with them.

Welcome to USA and english is not the world. And that's why you can't find info.
I figured this was part of it, I even stated so in my third sentence in the OP regarding our language being mostly cultivated by white people. Internalized white guilt has been snowballing for some time it seems.

I'm an American too and this conversation, while not specifically stated is directed at American race relations and how skewed the language is in regards to it. I always appreciate a little condescension though so thanks for that.

It's good to know that there are Caucaphobes all over the world though. Glad we're finally shining a spotlight on it! These racist scum can't hide forever!
 
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