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CDC warns against vaping after mysterious spike in lung illnesses

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Most likely, but the reality is that there are at least 9 million people in the country who use these products including a lot of children. Are we ready to go the route of Michigan and ban them altogether? Will that create a black market? It's a scary scenario.
Think of those figures - 100s of illnesses out of millions. I guarantee that lettuce has a worse record for illnesses. Not that we shouldn't try and figure out the issue, but people can't wait to jump all over any negative news.
 

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I’ve been off the cigs for 2 weeks thanks to vaping. Lungs are already feeling better now. Living in the UK where e-cigs are heavily regulated gives me some reassurance, the NHS says they carry some risk but at a fraction of what smoking carry’s.

If this is the same article that I read earlier today than in most cases it was because people were vaping THC. Regulation is very much needed in the US.
 
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I’ve been off the cigs for 2 weeks thanks to vaping. Lungs are already feeling better now. Living in the UK where e-cigs are heavily regulated gives me some reassurance, the NHS says they carry some risk but at a fraction of what smoking carry’s.

If this is the same article that I read earlier today than in most cases it was because people were vaping THC. Regulation is very much needed in the US.
I'm in the UK too and vape heavily. It helped me quit smoking and calms my anxiety down.

But this news is still worrying even if the UK does regulate it more.

I'm concerned and not sure what to do with this news as I do really depend on it.
 

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I'm in the UK too and vape heavily. It helped me quit smoking and calms my anxiety down.

But this news is still worrying even if the UK does regulate it more.

I'm concerned and not sure what to do with this news as I do really depend on it.
I hear ya dude and as a new vaper it is a worry, most cases involved vaping thc and lack of regulation in the US.

Obviously vaping still isn’t great for you but much better than smoking so start reducing your nicotine and feel assured that the NHS has been doing lots of research into it and they do say it is a good alternative to smoking.

I smoked for years knowing it could give me lung cancer, heart problems etc as with everything in life there’s always a element of risk.
 
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Wish there was a way to test my carts but I’ve been using them every day for a month and I haven’t felt sick or anything...
 

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Give it a few more years and we will see what real effects vaping has on the body.
It obviously isn't good for you.
 

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i wasted like $100 on some stupid ass vape cause i wanted to casually puff on fruity no nicotine shit when i was bored. it really felt awful on my lungs (they are extra sensitive due to asthma) and made me feel like i was drowning. i stick to smoking weed and vaping with the volcano
 
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I agree, can't help but feel this is the tip of the iceberg.
Yes, I agree.
There is also a condition known as popcorn lung that has been linked to vaping. Originally factory workers at popcorn plants making microwave popcorn would get it from breathing in the dust. Same stuff used to flavour the glycerol in ecigs or something.
 
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Idk why kids do this nowadays everyone wants to be cool but next thing you know death acting bad is only can gonna bring bad later in life because of the vaping and smoking
 

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Give it a few more years and we will see what real effects vaping has on the body.
It obviously isn't good for you.
People have been vaping for a long time. I suspect some of these incidents might be because of all the new shit people are trying to mod their formulas and whatnot. Especially if it introduces inorganic oils into your lungs.
 
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People have been vaping for a long time. I suspect some of these incidents might be because of all the new shit people are trying to mod their formulas and whatnot. Especially if it introduces inorganic oils into your lungs.
You don't go over 10yrs of something being on the market and suddenly nearly 300 cases of people having respiratory issues in teenagers and young adults pop up from nowhere; there was clearly something different happening. A bad batch of some flavour, a mod using different material, a poorly controlled run of product; but it looks more and more like this is the result of bootleg CBD carts. I'm not even sure why people buy cartridges as someone that uses RDAs in a squonking device but considering this has been the main means of vaping for the better part of the decade they are atleast a better known quantity.

I would never suggest someone take up vaping as anything other than a device for cessation of smoking ciggarettes but the hysteria about vaping lately is out of control.
 

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Show me the juice bottle. This just seems like some bootleg street juice and now people are crying that they're lungs hurt.

People were vaping for 10 and more years and suddenly there's so many cases, seems pretty weird to me.

Don't start vaping tho if your not a smoker.
 
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The ONLY weed carts going through my neck of the woods are those terrible Dank ones, and I'm not touching those things again.
I'd go get a card, but I really feel like weed is pretty close to getting decriminalized federally, and once that happens the floodgates will open.
Until then, I'll stick to the flower.
 

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I vaped cbd liquid for a month or two but I got throat infections.

I’m just vaping real stuff with a pax instead now and I don’t have the problem anymore.
Is the PAX any good?

I've tried a few herbal vapes before and they all sucked but I keep that Pax is really good and the best on the market but with it been £130 (uk here) I'm not sure I wanna risk that much for something that might suck.

Does it get you high af? if so how much herb do you need to hit that high?
 

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yeah federalization is def looming, i don't think parents want to deal with bootleg carts that nuke virgin lungs from orbit
 
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Hope it hurries up. Carts were great when they first popped up, but the bootlegs quickly flooded the market, and now that's all I see down here.

Those Dank ones are particularly horrid, they have a terrible chemical taste to them, you can tell you got a shit cart from the first toke.
 

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Is the PAX any good?

I've tried a few herbal vapes before and they all sucked but I keep that Pax is really good and the best on the market but with it been £130 (uk here) I'm not sure I wanna risk that much for something that might suck.

Does it get you high af? if so how much herb do you need to hit that high?
maybe .5 to 1 gram+ I guess it depends how tightly you want to really pack in there.

it most certainly gets you high af but it’s not as quick to do so as larger vaporisers like the volcano, which gives you a huge bag full of vapor very quickly.

With the pax, you don’t just suck really hard and get a huge lung fulls of vape. It’s more of a slow ramp up as the weed drys I guess but then it gets to the big clouds of vape. If you pack the chamber it’s like never ending. it’s ridiculously easy to clean as well.

I had a really cheap penshaped vape that had a screen mesh on the mouth peice and after even one use it was clogged and gunky.
 
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Fucking vapours are everywhere.

fcking bran the broken


I only take a thc vape hit every other week or so on avg....but intrigued to know the facts behind it all. I demand more science!

smoking flower is just inconvenient at this point
 
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maybe .5 to 1 gram+ I guess it depends how tightly you want to really pack in there.

it most certainly gets you high af but it’s not as quick to do so as larger vaporisers like the volcano, which gives you a huge bag full of vapor very quickly.

With the pax, you don’t just suck really hard and get a huge lung fulls of vape. It’s more of a slow ramp up as the weed drys I guess but then it gets to the big clouds of vape. If you pack the chamber it’s like never ending. it’s ridiculously easy to clean as well.

I had a really cheap penshaped vape that had a screen mesh on the mouth peice and after even one use it was clogged and gunky.
Thanks for getting back to me. I'm really tempted to give it a go but I'll buying a Pax 2 not the 3. I'm not really bothered about blue tooth lol and the higher price tag is a real turn off.

Just as long as I can get high without the actual combustion then I'll be good with that.
 
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Wish there was a way to test my carts but I’ve been using them every day for a month and I haven’t felt sick or anything...
What kind of cart are they? If they have any sort of trademarked character or flavor (bart simpson, backwoods, smarties, trix, etc.) then it is a fake. All of the dank carts are fake. Only the packaging is sold and who knows fills them with bootleg oil.

Those Dank ones are particularly horrid, they have a terrible chemical taste to them, you can tell you got a shit cart from the first toke.
Yes, all the bootleg carts are horrid. Now it's coming out that some of the cutting agents (clearcut, honeycut, etc) are being raided. So this means all the bootleg makers are going to start using their own cutting agents. The whole thing is messed up. Vitamin E acetate is the culprit in some of these cases and the agents mentioned above use that.
 

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As long as vaping continues to make an extensive amount of money, then the government won’t do anything about it.
 

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Now please somebody explain to me what exactly IS vaping???
When you smoke you are using combustion to turn the plant into smoke which you inhale this contains all the tar, co2, nicotine and all the other nasty ingredients that cause health conditions. It is the combustion part which is mainly bad for you.

When using a vaporiser you atomise the e-liquid into a vapour which you in-hale because it doesn't use combustion it is considered safer for smokers to use then traditional smoking and it lacks all the other nasty stuff that tobacco contains.
 
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People have been vaping for a long time. I suspect some of these incidents might be because of all the new shit people are trying to mod their formulas and whatnot. Especially if it introduces inorganic oils into your lungs.
Do you believe people think past hyped up sensationalized articles?
 

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When you smoke you are using combustion to turn the plant into smoke which you inhale this contains all the tar, co2, nicotine and all the other nasty ingredients that cause health conditions. It is the combustion part which is mainly bad for you.

When using a vaporiser you atomise the e-liquid into a vapour which you in-hale because it doesn't use combustion it is considered safer for smokers to use then traditional smoking and it lacks all the other nasty stuff that tobacco contains.
I see, thank you for the explanation ;)
 
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When you smoke you are using combustion to turn the plant into smoke which you inhale this contains all the tar, co2, nicotine and all the other nasty ingredients that cause health conditions. It is the combustion part which is mainly bad for you.

When using a vaporiser you atomise the e-liquid into a vapour which you in-hale because it doesn't use combustion it is considered safer for smokers to use then traditional smoking and it lacks all the other nasty stuff that tobacco contains.
Exactly. And it was never advertised as being healthy or unharmful. It was originally advertised as being healthiER than smoking tobacco, but still not as good as doing nothing at all.
People seem to have lost sight of that.
 

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You don't go over 10yrs of something being on the market and suddenly nearly 300 cases of people having respiratory issues in teenagers and young adults pop up from nowhere; there was clearly something different happening. A bad batch of some flavour, a mod using different material, a poorly controlled run of product; but it looks more and more like this is the result of bootleg CBD carts. I'm not even sure why people buy cartridges as someone that uses RDAs in a squonking device but considering this has been the main means of vaping for the better part of the decade they are atleast a better known quantity.

I would never suggest someone take up vaping as anything other than a device for cessation of smoking ciggarettes but the hysteria about vaping lately is out of control.
I've read that its always people who are new to vaping that are getting sick. I've been heavy on the old douche flute for about 4 years.

I suspect a lot of the people getting lung problems are also trying to vape heavy THC oils .
 
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Welp, i have a friend who vapes all day. I would bet that he vapes more than he breathes air, except when he is asleep. And i'm thinking, even if vaping was completely harmless, wouldn't this shit make it dangerous? I mean, even water could kill you if you drink enough.
 
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Thanks for getting back to me. I'm really tempted to give it a go but I'll buying a Pax 2 not the 3. I'm not really bothered about blue tooth lol and the higher price tag is a real turn off.

Just as long as I can get high without the actual combustion then I'll be good with that.
I've got a Pax 2 and it's great. The amount it holds is actually closer to .3g - .4g.

It will definitely get you baked, no need to worry about that.
 

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Welp, i have a friend who vapes all day. I would bet that he vapes more than he breathes air, except when he is asleep. And i'm thinking, even if vaping was completely harmless, wouldn't this shit make it dangerous? I mean, even water could kill you if you drink enough.
he's probably at the point where he's stable, most of the cases are kids toking whole carts in one day
 
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I suspect a lot of the people getting lung problems are also trying to vape heavy THC oils .
You're right. But they're black market carts. And they are not regulated. These black market dealers are cutting the oil with agents like Vitamin E. There were actual agents on the market that were sold with the explicit purpose of extending the oil while not diluting it. Now these companies are shutting down so who knows what the black market will use to cut the oil.

Stay away from all black market THC carts and you should be ok.
 

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Just ordered more juice too! I'm not panicking until I know exactly what was being used by these people, none of these articles are even stating basic facts about the products used. Not all vapes are the same, people have been vaping basic ejuices with the FDA approved food additive flavourings + nicotine for well over a decade now. Obviously this is not proof of anything, but it does make me wonder now that the drug vapes are becoming popular if that has something to do with it. I have no idea what is being used in liquid drug vapes, and I hear people buy homemade ones off the street and shit.

I don't know, I want more information, not more articles just telling me to stop. I get it, but it's not that easy.
 

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Like I don't get this stuff

An unidentified Kansas resident, over the age of 50 and with a history of underlying health issues, died from a “vaping-related lung disease” after being hospitalized with rapidly progressing symptoms, according to the Kansas Department of Health and Environment.
It’s unclear what vaping or e-cigarette products the person had been using.
So history of underlying issues, and they don't know what products he was vaping, but they've identified it as vaping-related. I need more than this.

Just pulling this stuff from articles I'm finding on google, here's a better quote

"She had some underlying medical illnesses, but nothing that would have foretold the fact that within a week after starting using e-cigarettes for the first time, she developed full-blown acute respiratory distress syndrome and died," Dr. Lee Norman, secretary for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, told NBC News.
 
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