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Chained Echoes - Chrono Trigger like 16bit JRPG releases Dec. 8th for PC, PS4/5, Switch and Xbox (Gamepass). Please Be Good....
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SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
The art is a mixed bag
Character and monster design are horrible
I appreciate the attempt and effort, but this is not enough.
Even something that has less detail such as DQ3 for SNES/Android manages to look more interesting because of the nice art direction
Character and monster design are horrible
I appreciate the attempt and effort, but this is not enough.
Even something that has less detail such as DQ3 for SNES/Android manages to look more interesting because of the nice art direction
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Let’s hope the devs actually understood what made Chrono Trigger good, too many of these indie devs are hacks and they try and say they can make a game like Chrono Trigger, when in reality the easiest way to describe their issue is Gaming Dyslexia, they don’t understand the first thing that made the original title good.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
i mean yeah but you could also just play chrono trigger
Rykan
Member
There's just something about these Western "JRPG" like games that's just off putting. You can tell it's trying to be like a JRPG, but something about it is just off that instantly gives it away that it's a Western game. Whether it's in the art, writing or just the style of the game. It looks like a knock off instead of an "Authentic" product.
I kind of feel the same way about Sea of Stars, although that game still looks really good in its own right.
I kind of feel the same way about Sea of Stars, although that game still looks really good in its own right.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
personally i think there's more stuff you can do than get hyped for a game youre questioning will even be good or not anyways. Like maybe instead of hoping for chrono trigger esque rpgs you just play chrono trigger because that game is still great (and other rpgs of the time period like FF6 and Tales of Phantasia)
Nautilus
Banned
Yeah, carachter art and models either look bad or generic.The art is a mixed bag
Character and monster design are horrible
I appreciate the attempt and effort, but this is not enough.
Even something that has less detail such as DQ3 for Android manages to look more interesting because of the nice art direction
But the areas, background, and the art overall is great.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Wow that sure is uh... a lot of stuff. And hey look guys, it's got like SNES boxes, isn't that so cool and retro? You guys like retro games right?
Oh and look! The boxes are different colors depending if you get it on Switch or PS4. Well, that settles it, gonna have to buy both so I can complete the collection.
Oh and look! The boxes are different colors depending if you get it on Switch or PS4. Well, that settles it, gonna have to buy both so I can complete the collection.
Paltheos
Member
Sometimes these actually work out. IIRC Radiant Historia was hyped as a Chrono Trigger-like game and it turned out really good. I like it more than Chrono Trigger!
Generally I agree with the sentiment though. You're better off just doing something else than worrying about whether or not x game may be good. Plus these imitators are usually shades of what they're drawing inspiration from. Unless it's from a trusted developer, I wait until the impressions are out.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
This game looks like they had a budget of $7 and are just using the term “retro” as a gimmick/excuse. Radiant was an incredible game that deserves another remaster.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Game looks terrible. There are so many jRPGs that you can be playing right now instead.
Dynasty8
Member
Yup, one guy worked on it for many years. Hopefully it can be decent at the very least. I've played my fair share of shitty indies that try too hard to replicate 90s RPGs, but I'm intrigued by this one for some reason.
That’s a SNES game with an Android controller overlay slapped onto it though. You should probably mention that in your post. I agree with your other statement.The art is a mixed bag
Character and monster design are horrible
I appreciate the attempt and effort, but this is not enough.
Even something that has less detail such as DQ3 for Android manages to look more interesting because of the nice art direction
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Had no idea about it
But you see, this is why solo developers shouldn't tackle complex projects like RPGs on their own.
An RPG takes not only a lot of time to develop and create content for, but also an equal amount of time to polish it and make it fun.
Probably should have started with small projects, taken his time and then with a small team attempted to make his dream project.
Croga
Member
"Choices with impacts": an interview with Matthias Linda, developer of Chained Echoes | GodisaGeek.com
Chained Echoes looks like a wonderful JRPG to end the year with, and we got to talk to the developer Matthias Linda all about it.
www.godisageek.com
Nice quick interview with the dev of the game here. 7 years he's been working on this, clearly a huge amount of work went into it from that lad, fair dues to the guy to be honest.
I'll certainly be giving it a fair shot anyways myself.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Why would anyone spend the money for those collector’s editions of a game that has astronomically little chance of becoming a sought-after classic?
anthony2690
Banned
X gonna give it ya digital and you will like it
Tbh, I'm not really seeing Chrono Trigger when I watch the trailer, art style doesn't have the same charm, looks more like Pier Solar imo.
I will give it a try though and hopefully be pleasantly surprised.
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Rhazer Fusion
Member
I think it looks pretty good from what I can see on a small phone screen especially for one guy. I know how difficult and time consuming solo projects can be and 7 years is some serious dedication. Looks like a cross between Xenogears and a little bit of Chrono Cross to me. I’ll try it out.
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German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
This could potentially be my GOTY.
Belthazar
Member
Because people want to have it? Not everyone buy collectors editions because it'll skyrocket in price later... In fact, most people who buy those don't even think about selling them
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Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
GP best deal in gaming.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Looks nostalgic.
No reason not to try it cause of GP.
No reason not to try it cause of GP.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Do these “I grew up playing X so I made a game that targets people’s nostalgia for X” type games ever end up being great?
Yes. Many of these are well-received and got high rated reviews.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Expectations are as low as they can get but I'll try it. Some things in the trailer look like RPG maker, other things look pretty good. Good game for GP. Hopefully its cool.
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Fuz
Banned
It's like western manga.
There's always something off.
Yumi
Member
I think the game is better served without being compared to Chrono Trigger.
Worth watching the video, the combat mechanics seem to have depth, and there’s what looks to be something similar to FF12 license board going on.
The character models are the only part of the art direction that look off to me.
I love and miss world maps in my RPG’s. Most interested in how much in depth the turn based rpg mechanics are. Turning into giant dark knights might be interesting too.
Worth watching the video, the combat mechanics seem to have depth, and there’s what looks to be something similar to FF12 license board going on.
The character models are the only part of the art direction that look off to me.
I love and miss world maps in my RPG’s. Most interested in how much in depth the turn based rpg mechanics are. Turning into giant dark knights might be interesting too.
LazyParrot
Member
Undertale, Shovel Knight, Stardew Valley... You might not personally think they're all that great, but lots of people do.
Fuz
Banned
It was a perfect storm.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
91 on opencritic
opencritic.com
Chained Echoes Reviews
Chained Echoes is rated 'Mighty' after being reviewed by 56 critics, with an overall average score of 90. It's ranked in the top 1% of games and recommended by 96% of critics.
opencritic.com
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Didn't see that coming. Doesn't look like a ton of reviews yet but thats promising still.91 on opencritic
Chained Echoes Reviews
Chained Echoes is rated 'Mighty' after being reviewed by 56 critics, with an overall average score of 90. It's ranked in the top 1% of games and recommended by 96% of critics.
Sadly this game suffers from one of the main issues plaguing these "retro" releases: No CRT/Scanlines for a pixel art game. Downright criminal. I am assuming that if you get to the point of learning how to code and pursue the titanic endevor of releasing a video game, you are an enthusiast. An enthusiast would know that pixel art looks like absolute dogshit without CRT/Scanline filters. Same issue happened with the new TNMT release.
poodaddy
Member
Modern pixel art isn't arted with CRT's in mind, and as such all those filters do is blur the high resolution sprite work. I never mind the option being included, but I only use those filters for older games where the art was specifically made with CRT and scanlines in mind, such is not the case now so the filters are superfluous.
PhaseJump
Banned
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Ill give it a whirl on gamepass but these modern takes on 16 bit JRPGs stink 100% of the time
TheDarkPhantom
Member
I've had my eye on this ever since a trailer randomly popped up on my YT feed, that 16 bit style and elements of Xenogears caught my attention. Will pick it up at some point but what's up with the main character's name, Glenn? Really? Talk about dull and uninspired as fuck lol.
poodaddy
Member
Probably a reference to Frog but your point is valid.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I love the "Please be good...." in the thread title, lol. Nice touch OP.
Game looks cool, might have to check this out. Thanks!
Game looks cool, might have to check this out. Thanks!