China's influence in Africa grows as more young people learn to speak Mandarin

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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/mandarin-language-courses-africa-intl/index.html


(CNN) — Inside a brightly-lit classroom, around 20 schoolchildren are enthusiastically singing the Chinese national anthem.
That song is followed by another tune in Chinese -- one typically sung during the Lunar New Year.
But this scene is not taking place in a Chinese school but at Lakewood Premier school, thousands of kilometers away in Nairobi.
Here, schoolchildren are learning Mandarin, a language spoken by nearly 1 billion people almost 8,000 kilometers away from their home.


China's growing influence in Africa
China has become increasingly powerful and prominent across Africa over the past two decades.
Through President Xi Jinping's flagship Belt and Road Initiative, China has loaned money to African countries to build highways, dams, stadiums, airports and skyscrapers. The Asian powerhouse has given out more than $143 billion in loans to African countries since 2000, according to the Johns Hopkins SAIS China-Africa Research Initiative.

Kenya is not the only country teaching its youngsters Chinese; in South Africa, Mandarin has been an optional language course for students since 2014, and in December 2018, Uganda introduced Mandarin to secondary students in selected schools.
Henry Adramunguni, a curriculum specialist at Uganda's National Curriculum Development Centre, said Mandarin was included in the curriculum because it is one of the United Nations' languages of work. Ugandan students also have the choice of learning French, Arabic and Latin or German in school.
"We want to give the opportunity for our young Ugandans to have access to jobs, education, and business beyond our borders. That's why we've given them this opportunity to learn Chinese," he said.






 

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Why are these student being forced to learn Chinese?

Isnt that African have their own original language?

This is a cultural invasion ffs
 
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This is colonialism. The Africans don’t care, cause they don’t have communist groups ran by non-blacks telling them how bad it is.
 
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Why are these student being forced to learn Chinese?

Isnt that African have their own original language?

This is a cultural invasion ffs
Africa is a continent, there is no singular language that is shared among the inhabitants. Almost all african nations were colonized by european powers, as such, there are places where french, english, and german (etc) are the common shared language. There are also some native tribal languages, but those are largely uncommon tongues to the majority of the populace in the average african nation. There are also instances of mixing languages, such as the case with Swahili.

What I mean to say is that Africa is a multi-lingual continent and adding different languages to the mix isn't something new. Which, btw, doesn't even seem to be happening here.

This doesn't appear to be a forced cultural integration, as @Rentahamster says, it is an elective. No one is being colonized by the Chinese or losing their ways of life with this program.

China (though a horrid place due to it's government) is a major world power on the rise. Preparing the next generation by teaching them some chinese makes sense for future trade relations. Trade with China is an unavoidable affair.
 

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When the Chinese start their mass exploitation of Africa's natural resources they will not be gentle with the native population.
Yeah those poor Africans, being oppressed by newly built roads, school, hospitals, train stations, bus stops etc.

China to build 100 hospitals and clinics in Africa
https://bhekisisa.org/article/2015-10-07-china-to-build-100-hospitals-and-clinics-in-africa

Already built, that was 3 years ago.

U.S. politicians get China in Africa all wrong
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/04/12/china-africa/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a02a6ea9083
 
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Yeah those poor Africans, being oppressed by newly built roads, school, hospitals, train stations, bus stops etc.

China to build 100 hospitals and clinics in Africa
https://bhekisisa.org/article/2015-10-07-china-to-build-100-hospitals-and-clinics-in-africa

Already built, that was 3 years ago.

U.S. politicians get China in Africa all wrong
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/04/12/china-africa/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a02a6ea9083
Oh my, I suppose I'm beyond the pale to be suspicious of a nation that is currently in the process of ethnically cleansing a troublesome minority among its own citizens when they come to the richest landmass in the world bearing gifts.
 
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Except that's made up nonsense and you know it. nobody is being cleansed. Uighurs are having more babies than Han.

Hypebole, it's a hell of a fake news starter.
 

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When the Chinese start their mass exploitation of Africa's natural resources they will not be gentle with the native population.
They have already started.
 
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Africa's problem have already started, the continent and its countries sadly, traded one evil (occupation by white external population) for another evil of the same.

China sees where the Anglozionistic empire retreats and moves to capitalize, China already is sending 1 million Chinese in Africa, with much more to come...

SAfrica (regardless of the wrong way it handled it) has fought to expel its whites, will she do the same with a country and populous that has 0 ounce of white guilt in it and does not see them as equals?

We shall see, but I think most of us won't be alive to see how it will finally take shape.
 

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Chinese attitudes towards people with darker skin tones in general tends to be problematic to put it mildly. Don't see how that will change as they become more influential in Africa.
 

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Chinese attitudes towards people with darker skin tones in general tends to be problematic to put it mildly. Don't see how that will change as they become more influential in Africa.
It will change gradually as more chinese men sent to africa breed with african women and as business relationships form between chinese and african people. The more chinese investment in africa, the more they share a mutual interest for africa to do well.

Of course in chinese mainland, attitudes against blacks will persist, but those people arguanly need jesus regardless.
 

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It will change gradually as more chinese men sent to africa breed with african women and as business relationships form between chinese and african people. The more chinese investment in africa, the more they share a mutual interest for africa to do well.

Of course in chinese mainland, attitudes against blacks will persist, but those people arguanly need jesus regardless.
Personally, I don't think Chinese men will be forming families with African women. The negative association, while not exclusive to China, with dark skin, is strong. When you also consider things such as filal piety and family honour etc, which are often at the forefront in Chinese culture, it's hard to see how lots of Chinese guys will be making families with African women – especially when the negative attitudes continue to persist back in China.
 
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Personally, I don't think Chinese men will be forming families with African women. The negative association, while not exclusive to China, with dark skin, is strong. When you also consider things such as filal piety and family honour etc, which are often at the forefront in Chinese culture, it's hard to see how lots of Chinese guys will be making families with African women – especially when the negative attitudes continue to persist back in China.
I don't disagree with what you wrote, but I believe that China has a serious shortcoming of women, men might never get a chance to form a relationship in China.
And a male force that numbers in the millions that can't accomplish nothing, family-wise is a societal wave of disruption. So many of them, most of them China's undesirables, will bite the bullet and form families in China's newer colony.
 

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Yeah, its all roads and infrastructure, until the chinese start buying ports on 99 year leases
 

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I don't disagree with what you wrote, but I believe that China has a serious shortcoming of women, men might never get a chance to form a relationship in China.
And a male force that numbers in the millions that can't accomplish nothing, family-wise is a societal wave of disruption. So many of them, most of them China's undesirables, will bite the bullet and form families in China's newer colony.
The shortfall of females in China is down to female infanticide and the traditional desire to have sons to carry the family name on. They would have more females if they stopped killing them.
The other thing to think about is will men brought up in China and its culture actually find African women sufficiently attractive to form a family? I don't think they will. I mean even in the Western world, you rarely see Western-born Chinese people dating outside of their ethnic group – and even when you do, it's almost always a white European or American. That whole “descendents of the dragon” honour culture stuff is strong among the Chinese.
 
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China is being smart and they know what they’re doing.

Africa has tremendous resources and the Chinese want all of it for the next generation.

By building ties with African countries, and building hospitals and facilities for their host nations, they will slowly build their way into African society.

The Chinese are smart. They don’t care about the people in Africa. They just want the resources.
 
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Personally, I don't think Chinese men will be forming families with African women. The negative association, while not exclusive to China, with dark skin, is strong. When you also consider things such as filal piety and family honour etc, which are often at the forefront in Chinese culture, it's hard to see how lots of Chinese guys will be making families with African women – especially when the negative attitudes continue to persist back in China.
You underestimate the power of butts.
 
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It will change gradually as more chinese men sent to africa breed with african women and as business relationships form between chinese and african people
The way you wrote "breed" sounds very cold and animalistic to me. I understand your meaning as relations between China and the African continent is growing and thus there will be more opportunity for individuals from different cultures to meet, fall in love, and build families together. I'm just personally bothered by your word choice, animals breed, while people make love. Not calling you a bad guy, just thought the way you wrote that was weird.

Anyway, I don't get why some people see this article as the Chinese encroaching African territory as some sort of pseudo-colonialism. I am aware that China is investing in Africa, but there is no invasion going on here. I think you can probably be weary of China (because they are China) but I don't see this interest as anything malicious.
 

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As China transitions into the next United States, Africa will become the next China. Africa will be one of the last centers of cheap labor left. And that will eventually create a middle class there over the next 30 years. This is all predictable. Sounds like it's good for both parties involved.
 

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The way you wrote "breed" sounds very cold and animalistic to me. I understand your meaning as relations between China and the African continent is growing and thus there will be more opportunity for individuals from different cultures to meet, fall in love, and build families together. I'm just personally bothered by your word choice, animals breed, while people make love. Not calling you a bad guy, just thought the way you wrote that was weird.

Anyway, I don't get why some people see this article as the Chinese encroaching African territory as some sort of pseudo-colonialism. I am aware that China is investing in Africa, but there is no invasion going on here. I think you can probably be weary of China (because they are China) but I don't see this interest as anything malicious.
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Humans are advanced animals in many ways, but are animals as well. Source: observing the natural world.
Well, technically human beings are animals, but I believe we should understand we are on a higher strata than actual animals (which do not reason and rely on instinct alone). Saying "breed" instead of simply sex or make love sounds odd and almost seems to lower human beings and the sexual act to a purely animalistic level. I can breed dogs, but I can't breed humans. If a man goes to his wife and says "let's breed" does that not seem less natural than just saying "want to have sex/make love/have relations/etc"?

I believe the sexual act between humans is much more special than what animals do. They simply have sex to propragate, humans use sex in often an intimate and loving way to enchance marital relationships.

This goes off topic though.
 

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Well, technically human beings are animals, but I believe we should understand we are on a higher strata than actual animals (which do not reason and rely on instinct alone). Saying "breed" instead of simply sex or make love sounds odd and almost seems to lower human beings and the sexual act to a purely animalistic level. I can breed dogs, but I can't breed humans. If a man goes to his wife and says "let's breed" does that not seem less natural than just saying "want to have sex/make love/have relations/etc"?

I believe the sexual act between humans is much more special than what animals do. They simply have sex to propragate, humans use sex in often an intimate and loving way to enchance marital relationships.

This goes off topic though.
Well, I mean the existence of prostitution and pornography kind of flies in the face of that. You could even argue that sex for the purpose of propagation is a more noble pursuit than grandpa paying an escort to sit on his face, but yeah it’s definitely off topic and I understand your point.
 

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Yeah those poor Africans, being oppressed by newly built roads, school, hospitals, train stations, bus stops etc.
China to build 100 hospitals and clinics in Africa
https://bhekisisa.org/article/2015-10-07-china-to-build-100-hospitals-and-clinics-in-africa

Already built, that was 3 years ago.

U.S. politicians get China in Africa all wrong
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/04/12/china-africa/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a02a6ea9083
You think they're doing that out of the goodness of their heart?
 

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Umm...no. They're doing it to acquire raw resources in the ground. Nobody is making that part secret. This isn't charity. It's positive trade.
 

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China is absolutely right to invest in Africa, Everybody should be doing it. If we really want to help Africans then investing in the countries and building up their infrastructure is the way to go. China aren't doing it to be generous obviously, they're gaining a cheaper workforce , favorable trade and political influence on the region. I read about a Chinese textile plant in Ethiopia and though the labor was cheap for China, the salary was actually quite decent for Ethiopia and was enough to live on. They have to start somewhere, all the first world countries of today went through an industrial revolution and a heavy manufacturing phase.

The US and Europe should invest in Africa as well as to not let China have too much influence. Of course if they do they'll face obstacles like SJWs saying "it's colonialism all over again", "white savior complex", and so forth, but despite all that bullshit, they should do it anyway. It's win-win for everybody involved. If the goal is really to help people you gotta do it there; blindly taking in uneducated African migrants isn't helping anyone.

Overpopulation is a big threat to all mankind and Africa is set to drastically increase its population if things don't change. When you have nothing else to do but fuck, well then you fuck so we need to give these people all the first world benefits and constraints that prevent us from fucking non-stop.
 

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Yeah those poor Africans, being oppressed by newly built roads, school, hospitals, train stations, bus stops etc.

China to build 100 hospitals and clinics in Africa
https://bhekisisa.org/article/2015-10-07-china-to-build-100-hospitals-and-clinics-in-africa

Already built, that was 3 years ago.

U.S. politicians get China in Africa all wrong
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/04/12/china-africa/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a02a6ea9083
Thanks for this. People are so quick to shit on China's practices without looking into what exactly is going on. They've helped Africans more than anybody in the exchange for resources. It seems like the perfect business relationship.
 

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Thanks for this. People are so quick to shit on China's practices without looking into what exactly is going on. They've helped Africans more than anybody in the exchange for resources. It seems like the perfect business relationship.
I have nothing against China, or the Chinese, myself, but I understand that nations have no friends, nations have only interests and there is nothing the Chinese nation that does that does not benefit the Chinese nation, if I am to be surprised pleasantly, then so be it. I would just prefer Africans to have trully their own sovereingity for themselves at one point.
 

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I have nothing against China, or the Chinese, myself, but I understand that nations have no friends, nations have only interests and there is nothing the Chinese nation that does that does not benefit the Chinese nation, if I am to be surprised pleasantly, then so be it. I would just prefer Africans to have trully their own sovereingity for themselves at one point.
You can say that about any business any country does with one another. The difference here is that China is actually putting up infrastructure and things that greatly benefit the people's way of lives there as opposed to just funneling tons of money to the higher ups and hoping the conditions change there which is what other countries have done in the past.