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[Mozza]

Can we stop with this weak argument. switch 1 has a freaking user base of near 50 million in the US. of course it was gonna have a huge launch, comparing it to switch 1 which coming off 3ds and wiiu which were both had very weak sales in the US. the nintendo brand was at its weakest, and switch 1 was still sold out. having healthy stock should not be a excuse for weak sales during the holidays especially when you consider it was up against dead xbox and a expensive ps5 while switch 1 was up against ps4 and xbox that both 199$ both did amazing numbers during the holidays. launch buyers are enthusiasts for a console that did 155 million and took 8 years to come out it should have little effect on holidays. its pretty clear that the gaming market is declining, and yes consoles are more expensive but so is everything else.

You seem to be solving your own arguments.

 

[onQ123]

it's the right platform if you wanna entertain more than yourself at home.

Sir that is not how you use a Joycon

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

PS5 is practically the only console in history that launched under the absolute worst economic conditions imaginable. Two full years of COVID-driven shortages, global supply-chain bottlenecks, volatile material costs that inflated the BoM and even forced a rare mid-gen price hike, and now a global RAM crunch

Somewhere far off, the sound of the world's smallest violin...

 

[Radical_3d]

You're saying this happens because of Sony's success, but that's not necessarily true. It happens to Microsoft, and it happens to every major publisher — successful or not.

At the end of the day, most closures come down to the financial performance of the games being developed. I don't agree with many of these decisions, but people love to frame it as a black-and-white issue with zero nuance. No grey area whatsoever.

Take Sony, for example: they funded Fumito Ueda's game for nearly ten years. Ten years. Not a single nerd gave them credit for that. They're one of the few publishers willing to back lesser-known studios until they get their footing, and they don't even demand exclusivity — look at Stellar Blade, Kena, even Kojima's projects. Yet you barely see any praise for that on gaming forums.

And of course, like any publisher, they're not innocent or free of mistakes. But at the very least, we should balance criticism by acknowledging the positives as well — something that rarely happens here or on gaming forums in general, which tend to drown everything in negativity. And again, this applies to everyone, not just Sony.

What I'm trying to say is this: as a consumer, Sony has given me a great platform. One that gets all the big games, has solid online services, future-proof tech, VR support, and so on. People even mocked them for using a standard M.2 drive instead of a custom solution — meanwhile they're the only console maker still offering physical media on all their systems. They're selling their hardware cheaper than every equivalent option on the market: PS5 Pro vs Series X, PS5 vs Series S, even compared to Switch 1/2.

So yes, they're not perfect. None of them are. But in terms of overall value, features, and consumer-friendly decisions, they're the best of the big three.

They didn't founded Thr Last Guardian for 10 years. The game was on pause and Fumito canned until they had the hardware to move it. And arrive to exclusivity deals with safe bets like Kojima and cheap productions like Stellar doesn't give them credit either. Those are business decisions that benefit the brand, not the players.

Of corse no company is perfect but Sony used to be decent until the PS5.

 

[thismeinteil]

So much for that Switch 2 streak people were talking about

 

[NeburW]

¡Dios mío!

¡Ave María Santísima!

 

[mckmas8808]

Im going to say 20 million and fairly decent amount of Pros versus amateurs. I could see Pro perhaps being hard to find depending on how many Sony has available in the channel. Maybe they'll have pre-orders for pro+gta6 to gauge demand.

I wish I could know the price of the PS5 and PS5 Pro this November. I'm very curious how Sony views total sales numbers versus profit margins. To me, it's foundational to grow your total number of gamers. That should ALWAYS come first. 100 million consoles sold per generation at minimum is a must now!