Running one of their new studios, I suppose - though I don't think he'll end up there myself.
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Cliffy B departs Epic - Takes break from industry - GAF writes disturbing fan fiction
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Running one of their new studios, I suppose - though I don't think he'll end up there myself.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Just found out about this. Holy Shit 
4 Possibilities for him quit:
1- Next Xbox and PS4 are craps and weak hardware and he is tired of that...
2- He is making a new studio with other buddies...
3- He is joining Microsoft
4- Epic is turning to be a casual/mobile games and he is sick of this crap...
I really think is number 4...
1- Next Xbox and PS4 are craps and weak hardware and he is tired of that...
2- He is making a new studio with other buddies...
3- He is joining Microsoft
4- Epic is turning to be a casual/mobile games and he is sick of this crap...
I really think is number 4...
The DR's ran out of talent and the will to carry on games development. Cliff still has years of awesome gaming ahead of him and he still loves making games. He should take a break and then come back to shove eye-candy and awesome-sauce into the entire worlds faceholes.
Or the thing he actually said.
5- He has enough money to party for the rest of his life.
mhayze
Member
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Wow. I did not see this coming. Best of luck to him.
specialguy
Banned
most people who quit seem to run off and form some indie or something, not join another large corporation.
lol i love how we're conspiracy theorists about next gen. that makes no real sense anyway, they certainly wont be WORSE than the current gen boxes he's already making games on, and realistically at their absolute worst they'd be 2x as powerful. which we'd consider crap by next gen standards, yet making a game with twice the power you're used to certainly wouldn't be something to cry over. and of course, again realistically, probably 4x current consoles would be the true absolute floor.
I mean in one sense we'd be like "4X current consoles, next gen is garbage!". But in a game dev sense it'd be like hey I'm making games on this thing, now I get this thing thats four times as powerful to make games on. How can that be bad.
I know what you are saying, but I don't think Cliffy's comments were out of the norm during that time frame. In 2008 PC gaming was coming out of the dark ages, and it was basically Valve pioneering the whole platform on their own. Big budget console games were extremely hot and making big bucks. In hindsight, Valve was right about PC and everyone else was wrong. Valve got the last laugh because Steam is becoming PC gaming, that's how big of a market share they have been able to claw out.
I suppose Cliffy could admit he was wrong about what he said, but we all already know that. No need to pound him on the issue. Besides, he had been pushing Fortnite before leaving Epic so it isn't like he completely gave up on the platform.
alexandros
Banned
I agree with everything you just said. Personally though, as a PC gamer, I was disappointed at Cliff for choosing to "go with the flow" at that point in time instead of offering some words of support for the platform. He was an important part of PC gaming in the past and, simply put, I expected more from him. Many people wonder how Valve has managed to gather so much good will from PC gamers while other companies get crucified. Each company's behavior and attitude during the dark ages of 2005-2008 plays a big part in that.
GillianSeed79
Member
I don't know. Have you seen his wife? I would have retired the moment she said "I do". I can see him coming back, but in iOS or something. He's been making games since he was like 13. I think guys like Notch, even though I've never played Minecraft, have gotten rank and file people excited about not working with publishers. Granted 99 percent of those ventures will probably fail, but I'm sure it's more enticing than working 80-hour work weeks for two to three years for the typical "AAA" game.
This, who could blame him for leaving?
Maybe Rod and Cliff got out before the imminent microsoft buyout of epic.
Clay Davis
Member
gears was his baby wasn't it? would he really get sick of working on his creation and striving for a better game? what was stopping him from working on a new game or ip? gears is now in the hands of another developer, isn't it?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Whoa, that certainly came out of left field. Best of wishes, Cliffy. Although I'm still bummed you couldn't get a new Jazz Jackrabbit out the door before leaving
GreggTheGrimReaper
Member
Since he was a supporter of the Oculus Rift at Epic I wonder what will happen now. Are they still going to make Oculus Rift ready games at Epic?
.la1n
Member
Cliffy microbrew? Be still my heart.
GlamFM
Banned
Legendary.
BlockheadBrown
Member
Hironobu Sakaguchui, Greg Zeschuk and Ray Muzyka, Peter Molynuex, Cliffy B...
Now, I realize this trend is nothing new, but I can't help but wonder, if maybe they fear the "next-gen crunch", being that the horror stories surrounding the current-gen crunches were pretty brutal.
They all leave to do "smaller projects", or "brew dank microbraus" (in the case of the Dr.'s), or walk the Earth like Caine in Kung-fu, I'm waiting for a studio head to leave and say he wants to make such a fucking huge and awesome game that he must sacrifice himself in order to accomplish it, and no I don't mean Itagaki.
Basically, are they scurred or what? Isn't this what they love, the pressure, the pain, the swing for the fences attitude?
Reading his posts in this thread; respek. Family life is paramount in this short life we're given. I still want someone to champion the next-gen. We've had enough exits. Maybe Guillermo Del Toro will save us all.
Now, I realize this trend is nothing new, but I can't help but wonder, if maybe they fear the "next-gen crunch", being that the horror stories surrounding the current-gen crunches were pretty brutal.
They all leave to do "smaller projects", or "brew dank microbraus" (in the case of the Dr.'s), or walk the Earth like Caine in Kung-fu, I'm waiting for a studio head to leave and say he wants to make such a fucking huge and awesome game that he must sacrifice himself in order to accomplish it, and no I don't mean Itagaki.
Basically, are they scurred or what? Isn't this what they love, the pressure, the pain, the swing for the fences attitude?
Reading his posts in this thread; respek. Family life is paramount in this short life we're given. I still want someone to champion the next-gen. We've had enough exits. Maybe Guillermo Del Toro will save us all.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
He bought a private island with that Doom money to bang his hot girlfriend on.
Classy!
Gonna listen to this in his honor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnnFFEStA3c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnnFFEStA3c
My hope is that, in time, they will coaslesce into Obsidian-like supergroups and deliver a new generation of games from a design persective.
The reality is that many will fade from anything resembling relevance like American McGee.
Wow. That's interesting. Maybe Epic will focus more on making engines than games in the future.
base shagohod
Member
Are you sure you were dreaming?
This same thing happened to me last week.
Coincidence?
megamerican
Member
It's a shame because he used his clout for good things, and was willing to speak up about things others wouldn't have.
Takamura-San
Member
When will Bungie issue a statement?
He probably said those things about PC gaming dying because UT3, a game from a big franchise and made by Epic, bombed. So its not hard to see why he would say PC gaming was dying at the time. I think its ironic that people didn't buy UT3 at the time for PC yet PC gamers now eats up yearly COD crap which are mediocre UT/QA-lite clones which charges you for content instead of supporting a modding community like Epic did with UT and still does.
He was right because PC gaming died with the release of the original xbox and was reborn as something different. And saying Epic doesn't support PC is bullshit. They've given the PC community the UDK, the best enthusiast tool ever. Epic is still one of the biggest supporters of PC gaming.
I have little respect for most of the PC community who did this. They spend the entire time whining that COD is casual crap and rehashed and when a unique arena shooter game along with full modding support and free DLC they don't buy it.
Epic released an entire expansion pack for the game that added more maps than BF3 premium has. For free.
alexandros
Banned
UT3 bombed on all available platforms because it was a bad game. Edit: Maybe not bad objectively, but certainly disappointing.
How so? Are you talking about the introduction of additional business models and features? If so, does that also mean that console died with the introduction of online multiplayer, DLC and patching? I don't understand your point but maybe we shouldn't talk about it here and go so far off-topic.
I mentioned CliffyB in particular, not Epic as a company in general.
You are way off the mark
I personally don't play Gears anymore but I have some good memories playing through 1 and 2 with my cousin and my brother's friend comes over almost every weekend and plays Gears 3 online. I'll have to break the news to him eventually. It's a little sad to hear but it's understandable. Sometimes you just have do what you have to do. It's not like he's wont be able get a job in the industry if he wanted to. Best of luck, Cliffy.
Cuban Legend
Member
Idk but I wish I were a fly on the wall at Epic to see exactly what built up and got a man to up and leave his own company after 20 years....
... and especially when you're nearing the next console generation, where your company's console games might finally see the next generation of graphics to take advantage of your baby (Unreal 4).
Unrealistically I'd like to see him start a new PC-centric team with the 2 Bioware guys who just left but that's wishing for an impossibility.
Its obvious that CliffyB supports PC. He was one of the top dogs at Epic. Where they produce and provide great support for a free development kit.
MrCunningham
Member
He's not dead
B.J. Blazkowicz is the main character from Wolfenstein 3D
Cliffy didn't create Halo
Every statement here is wrong.
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B.J. Blazkowicz is the main character from Wolfenstein 3D
Cliffy didn't create Halo
Every statement here is wrong.
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alexandros
Banned
Yet, "PC gaming is in disarray", CliffyB 2008. Not cool.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Hmmmm...