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[CLOWN WORLD + Juristocracy ] Brazilian Supreme Court annuls sentence execution after appeal court upheld conviction, releasing corrupts

Dane

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Yesterday our shitty STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), the country Supreme Court, decided that the sentence execution after the appeal court uphelds its conviction is no longer valid again, that means rich criminals (especially corrupt politicians) can exhaust appealing for their lives or until they go bankrupt, making the system again in a paradise for them.

And what's the result? More than four thousand criminals being released today, including the former president Lula, who embezzled billions and gave our money to communist countries like Venezuela and Cuba for their infrastructure projects.

What a Clown World, the South America was going into the right direction, now Argentina is going to be fucked up by the Kirchner again and Chile have lots of lefties that gave support to the communist students protests, sounds even like a international plan against us (tin foil hat not needed).

 

lock2k

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Yesterday our shitty STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal), the country Supreme Court, decided that the sentence execution after the appeal court uphelds its conviction is no longer valid again, that means rich criminals (especially corrupt politicians) can exhaust appealing for their lives or until they go bankrupt, making the system again in a paradise for them.

And what's the result? More than four thousand criminals being released today, including the former president Lula, who embezzled billions and gave our money to communist countries like Venezuela and Cuba for their infrastructure projects.

What a Clown World, the South America was going into the right direction, now Argentina is going to be fucked up by the Kirchner again and Chile have lots of lefties that gave support to the communist students protests, sounds even like a international plan against us (tin foil hat not needed).

I've been unsuccesfully trying to leave this place for years. Fuck this place.

Brazil deserves to be a shithole. What a mess of a country.
 
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Mohonky

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No offense but I found that a little hard to read.

Summary; Brazil introduced a law that means someone can be found guilty in court but cannot be held in prison until they exhaust all their appeals. So basically if get a guilty verdict in court, you won't face prison time until you have used all your appeals which means anyone currently appealing their case in court is being released.

Obviously this massively favours the rich or corrupt officials who can drag out their appeal processes.
 
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Dargor

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No offense but I found that a little hard to read.

Summary; Brazil introduced a law that means someone can be found guilty in court but cannot be held in prison until they exhaust all their appeals. So basically if get a guilty verdict in court, you won't face prison time until you have used all your appeals which means anyone currently appealing their case in court is being released.

Obviously this massively favours the rich or corrupt officials who can drag out their appeal processes.
You are mistaken, there is no law being introduced here. Our supreme court has no legal right to introduce any laws, thats the congress's job.

What is happening is a reinterpretation of our constitution, its a little complicated, since until 2016 what we had is the, now, current idea, that you cant put someone in jail until the appeals are done, then in 2016 the idea changed to "you can put someone in jail before that", but then really important criminals started going to jail, the biggest one being Lula.

There is so much more to be said here, like how 7 of our 11 supreme court ministers are there because of Lula's party, 3 appointed by him and 4 by Dilma, how the other 4 are also suspect as fuck. So when the big fish started going down they started moving the pieces to release them all. Or how our congress, who is supposed to keep the supreme court in check doesn't do anything cuz they too are oh so very much corrupt and doesn't want to make the guys that enforce the law angry. And much, much more. Brazil really is drowning in a sea of corruption.

But suffice it to say, the supreme court is basically one of the most, if not THE most, corrupt institutions in our country, no brazilian citizen believes in them.
 
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Paulistano

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Basically our supreme court changed how the constitution is interpreted to release a corrupt politician from jail and what's worse is said politician appointed half the court since he is a ex-president...
 
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Dane

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No offense but I found that a little hard to read.

Summary; Brazil introduced a law that means someone can be found guilty in court but cannot be held in prison until they exhaust all their appeals. So basically if get a guilty verdict in court, you won't face prison time until you have used all your appeals which means anyone currently appealing their case in court is being released.

Obviously this massively favours the rich or corrupt officials who can drag out their appeal processes.
That's it, but I can't edit the title.

You are mistaken, there is no law being introduced here. Our supreme court has no legal right to introduce any laws, thats the congress's job.

What is happening is a reinterpretation of our constitution, its a little complicated, since until 2016 what we had is the, now, current idea, that you cant put someone in jail until the appeals are done, then in 2016 the idea changed to "you can put someone in jail before that", but then really important criminals started going to jail, the biggest one being Lula.

There is so much more to be said here, like how 7 of our 11 supreme court ministers are there because of Lula's party, 3 appointed by him and 4 by Dilma, how the other 4 are also suspect as fuck. So when the big fish started going down they started moving the pieces to release them all. Or how our congress, who is supposed to keep the supreme court in check doesn't do anything cuz they too are oh so very much corrupt and doesn't want to make the guys that enforce the law angry. And much, much more. Brazil really is drowning in a sea of corruption.

But suffice it to say, the supreme court is basically one of the most, if not THE most, corrupt institutions in our country, no brazilian citizen believes in them.
Three of the appointments voted against, but yes, the majority voted for, including appointment from previous presidents, Bolsonaro will only have the right to appoint next year.

Its absurd, ever since he got into presidency, the estabilishment went 0 to 100 on making bullshit law projects and increase immunity.

We are living in a juristocracy, the thing is that, from the new republic formation until 09, the understanding was that the sentence could be executed after the appeal court upheld the conviction, after that, they decided that only after all appeals have been exhausted (which means infinite for those with money) and created a new level of impunity, then in 17 they returned with it, and now, discarded.

If they argue that the shitty constitution allows it (yes, its shitty because its +400 pages and its confusing, its a socialist-corporativist book that even regulate small aspects of life such as renting houses), then they already had commited an inconstitutional act by legalizing LGBT marriage as it clearly says on the constitution that the marriage is between man and woman.
 
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