CNN.Com: Traditional Courtship is dead

[Cubsfan23]

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/13/living/courting-love/i

Case in point: more than half of singles have sex on first dates, according to a new poll. "That doesn't surprise me at all," Matthews says.

Why all this first-date sex? It's the technology, says sex and relationships expert Laura Berman. When people meet first via online dating sites or by texting, they're likely to flirt and indulge in pre-date sexual banter. That creates sexual tension -- and even a sexual expectation -- that sets the stage for a randy first encounter IRL (in real life), says Berman.

Basically we're moving from traditional courtship rituals like buying flowers, writing poems and sending love letters ... to tweeting stuff like "TD2M" or "LH6." (See text decoder in left margin of this story.)ndex.html


time to get with the times GAF, stuff that worked in the past doesn't work anymore

 

[Misterhbk]

Don't do it at the first opportunity. Wait until the second, or if you're a daring man the third chance. Oh the juices will flow

 

[Eidan]

If I don't have sex on a first date, I at least want a breast in my mouth at some point.

 

[depths20XX]

IRL (in real life) folks

 

[Clay Davis]

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/13/living/courting-love/i

Case in point: more than half of singles have sex on first dates, according to a new poll. "That doesn't surprise me at all," Matthews says.

sure as hell surprises me. where are all these women who down for sex on the first date.

point me in their general direction, for the love of god, point me in their general direction and wish me luck.

 

[Dennis]

I put out on a first date.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Where the hell were all these girls giving it up on the first date when I was young?

I have been cursed since day one.

 

[Resilient]

I don't think I'll ever be texted LH6 and I can't tell if it makes me sad or not.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Case in point: more than half of singles have sex on first dates, according to a new poll. "That doesn't surprise me at all," Matthews says.

say what? Color me surprised.

 

[Effnine]

sure as hell surprises me. where are all these women who down for sex on the first date.

point me in their general direction, for the love of god, point me in their general direction and wish me luck.

Probably depends on where you live. In NYC and LA, it's not uncommon. Also, you gotta have some swag. #yolo

 

[Vek]

So you're saying I shouldn't write a crown of sonnets?

 

[KHarvey16]

This sounds a lot like the usual "society is so much worse today!" nonsense.

 

[Oppo]

Is it still true that at least a third of the world has never made a phone call?

If so, then I think this might be a touch premature. Overall.

In the first world though, I would be inclined to agree.

 

[- J - D -]

I keep it old school with the mariachi band.

 

[BoboBrazil]

sure as hell surprises me. where are all these women who down for sex on the first date.

point me in their general direction, for the love of god, point me in their general direction and wish me luck.

It's not hard, but you do have to try. Start with the kiss and you need to make it passionate. If they let you kiss the first date just keep going and usually you can end up fucking. It's not rocket science, but it does require some effort.

 

[AlimNassor]

Really? Most women don't put out on first date. My sister sure as hell don't, not till she likes him and wants to go steady with him. No girl I know does either. Unless they mean casual bar hook ups.

 

[out0v0rder]

i finally had my first date where we had sex on the first date, realized that person was retarded. who the hell would have sex with me after a few hours of meeting me? a dumb person would thats for sure.

 

[commedieu]

gaf told me not to write love letters :\

 

[Misterhbk]

Really? Most women don't put out on first date. My sister sure as hell don't, not till she likes him and wants to go steady with him. No girl I know does either. Unless they mean casual bar hook ups.

You're sister probably isn't going to tell you she just fucked some dude she just met.

 

[pigeon]

All these articles about people still going on dates are extremely confusing to me. Hooking up at parties was good enough for me and it ought to be good enough for my kids.

 

[perfectchaos007]

We're in the era of instant gratification. The adage "Good things come to those that wait" is only accepted when no alternative to achieve instant gratification are available. So if both partners want sex NOW, then they aren't going to waste time....

 

[Rentahamster]

I don't sex on the first date. I only allow up to snuggling.

Need to be sure they're clean.

 

[NoTacos]

So essentially there's no hope for guys like me who find it a refreshing change of pace to do it the old fashioned way?

I guess it's back to catfishing on sites like facebook and myspace like I did back in highschool.

 

[Eidan]

All these articles about people still going on dates are extremely confusing to me. Hooking up at parties was good enough for me and it ought to be good enough for my kids.

Wise man.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

If you have trouble "getting dates," you are also likely not a part of the 50% that have first date sex.

 

[Devolution]

Where the hell were all these girls giving it up on the first date when I was young?

I have been cursed since day one.

Fucking other people.

 

[Bay Maximus]

Does it matter how many first dates your SO had?

 

[commedieu]

So essentially there's no hope for guys like me who find it a refreshing change of pace to do it the old fashioned way?

I guess it's back to catfishing on sites like facebook and myspace like I did back in highschool.

http://www.rubmaps.com/

 

[Messypandas]

I'm an unrequited slut

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Does it matter how many first dates your SO had?

now we have to ask.

 

[Tobor]

What I think of as "traditional courtship" has been dead for a very long time.

 

[Misterhbk]

now we have to ask.

Then divide the number by 2

 

[Angry Grimace]

I really hope they mean successful dates. That would be awkward if people had a bad date but still got sex.

 

[grandjedi6]

Downplays any regional or generational differences. For example, I'm sure a lot of women are more willing to admit to having had sex on the 1st date compared to previous generations due to changing culture norms. Or those who do are, obviously, more vocal about it and thus seem like a higher percentage of people, especially due to how the internet and social networking works.

 

[victreeb3l]

kinda surprised actually. anecdote and all but very few of my female friends bang on their first dates.

unless theyre counting meeting at parties or clubs as a date

 

[Devolution]

When people meet first via online dating sites or by texting, they're likely to flirt and indulge in pre-date sexual banter. That creates sexual tension -- and even a sexual expectation -- that sets the stage for a randy first encounter IRL (in real life), says Berman.

I read it in full but if you're basically dating online why wouldn't you have sex when you finally meet?

 

[commedieu]

What I think of as "traditional courtship" has been dead for a very long time.

Yeah..

I'd say about 1/2 the women I open the door for... kinda take issue with it, or at least a snarky comment. (While dating) I'm just being nice. Luckily my work-wife hooked me up with her sister. And she loves the old fashioned shit.

 

[grandjedi6]

Also, the link doesn't seem to work.

 

[ChuyMasta]

Oh great, so I was average when I was dating =/

 

[NoTacos]

http://www.rubmaps.com/

Pass. I'm actually into someone right now and we've been out a couple times with good results so I'll just see where that goes instead.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I don't think I got laid until my 20th date or something =V Of course, I've only had sex with one person, that being my wife. How's that for traditional?

 

[Eidan]

I read it in full but if you're basically dating online why wouldn't you have sex when you finally meet?

Turns out they were lying about their appearance? Who knows?

 

[shadyspace]

Just had a first date that ended in sex. And why not? It felt right and we didn't question it. She was sure to do the whole "I never do this" spiel though which I'm sure plenty of girls feel necessary whether it's true or not.

 

[Devolution]

Turns out they were lying about their appearance? Who knows?

You can easily deal with this by webcamming with the other person a bunch before the IRL meet.

 

[BeautifulMemory]

I don't sex on the first date. I only allow up to snuggling.

Need to be sure they're clean.

What/how do you do to make sure? Serious question

 

[Liquidsnake]

Fucking other people.

Ive only had sex twice on the first date.

 

[samus i am]

Really? Most women don't put out on first date. My sister sure as hell don't, not till she likes him and wants to go steady with him. No girl I know does either. Unless they mean casual bar hook ups.

This post is unintentionally hilarious.

 

[genjiZERO]

There's no such thing as "traditional courtship". Courtship practices have always varied widely from generation to generation, class to class, and culture to culture.

 

[coldvein]

I read it in full but if you're basically dating online why wouldn't you have sex when you finally meet?

people can't be "dating" online.

 

[thesoapster]

IRL (in real life) folks

This is basically all I read.