CNN Op-Ed: What if women went on a sex strike before the midterms?

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I don't believe either gender owes the other anything. The history of the human race is not a scorecard. Everyone pitched in to get where we are now. Neither would have been able to do anything without the other. Quite literally.
Again not owe, but why shouldn't I (we?) be thankful to the men who created all the technology we use, the society we live in, I'm not saying women didn't play a role, but obviously men had a bigger contribution overall, even if it was just because they were in a position to do so.
 
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I recommend you read this book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Accomplishment

Everyone pitched in, but there are absolutely categories where it begins to skew in one direction. There's nothing evil pointing this out. Just like for example, most Nursing is dominated by females.
It doesn't mean male nurses don't exist or they don't do anything, but female representation absolutely dwarfs them.
The only reason it's skewed is because for most human history men have intentionally limited the ability for women to contribute by severely limiting their rights and their educational opportunities.
 
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The only reason it's skewed is because for most human history men have intentionally limited the ability for women to contribute by severely limiting their rights and their educational opportunities.
How do you know this gap would not have existed regardless of any limitations put in place?

Every society on earth shows the same pattern. It doesn't matter what religion/culture was in place, Men are still the main contributors in technology. And in warfare, they are still the first ones to die.
 
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How do you know this gap would not have existed regardless of any limitations put in place?

Every society on earth shows the same pattern. It doesn't matter what religion/culture was in place, Men are still the main contributors in technology.
Because women have been able to contribute IMMENSELY to science and technology since gaining more equal opportunities in the last 100yrs. And we're able to contribute even before that.


You can debate the physical advantages of men, but in terms of intelligence women are on equal footing as men. So there is no reason to believe that had they been given equal opportunities from the very beginning that men would still have been the main contributors to science and technology.
 
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Because women have been able to contribute IMMENSELY to science and technology since gaining more equal opportunities in the last 100yrs.
What do you quantify as "immensely"?

This is a tricky subject because I don't want people to read this post and say "hurrr you hate women". I'm just looking at the statistical side of things.
Where has the gap changed in 100 years that says men are no longer likely going to be seen as leading the sciences and technology?

Look at nobel prizes (in the science categories) given out. Subjective maybe, but which gender does it skew towards?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates#Prize

I took the time to count. Between 1918 ~ 2018 there have been:

Male Nobel Prize Winners in Physics: 185
Female Nobel Prize Winners in Physics: 2

If I had more time, I would count the chemistry and medicine sections.

Nobody_Important said:
You can debate the physical advantages of men, but in terms of intelligence women are on equal footing as men. So there is no reason to believe that had they been given equal opportunities from the very beginning that men would still have been the main contributors to science and technology.
Women on average are smarter than men. But the bellcurve for geniuses is actually much more shorter in women compared to men.
Geniuses is where we start to derive the Albert Einsteins and Issac Newtons of the world.



There are also studies that acknowledge certain gender differences in the brain, but again, someone will look at this and say "hurr you hate women!" instead of pointing out biological facts.
 
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Envision believing that wars are started and fought by men for fun rather than on behalf of the tribe.
With all the meme-ing going around I can't tell: Are you asking me to do this, or are you mocking it as what you perceive to be my perspective?

If the former, that doesn't make any sense.
If the latter, you are both wrong about my perspective and being rude for no reason.
 

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The only reason it's skewed is because for most human history men have intentionally limited the ability for women to contribute by severely limiting their rights and their educational opportunities.
Surely this is more a result of circumstances than a conspiracy of men to keep women down. It’s not like there was birth control or daycare until very recently. Women played an important role in the creation of society as it is today by raising children.
 

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With all the meme-ing going around I can't tell: Are you asking me to do this, or are you mocking it as what you perceive to be my perspective?

If the former, that doesn't make any sense.
If the latter, you are both wrong about my perspective and being rude for no reason.
I’m mocking the feminist narrative that purports war to be evidence of toxic masculinity.
 
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"Vote for us or no sex" is probably the most desperate and sad attempt at getting people to the voting booth. Also, I'm not sure if showing a video of Nancy Pelosi does the premise of your article any favors ;)

Yet many straight women in long term relationships may think service sex is as natural as the air we breathe -- horny husbands and disinterested wives are a recurring, nearly inescapable trope in pop culture and since Darwin, science is rife with studies about ardent males and reluctant females.


Man, the politics sections has been especially ridiculous these past few days. Is this related to the usual midterm insanity that's sweeping across America?
 
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There is so much wrong with this article written as a political piece (re: midterms) that I don't even know where to begin. The only part about it that doesn't surprise me is that it sprung up from a sex conference in Montreal. Isn't the assumption here that all women are voting for Democrats while all their significant others are voting Republican? The idea of "service sex" implies there are problems in the relationship that require attention, problems that go far beyond politics.

CNN, WTF are you doing? Go back to reporting the facts and stop making everything a vague opinion piece.
 

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There is so much wrong with this article written as a political piece (re: midterms) that I don't even know where to begin. The only part about it that doesn't surprise me is that it sprung up from a sex conference in Montreal. Isn't the assumption here that all women are voting for Democrats while all their significant others are voting Republican? The idea of "service sex" implies there are problems in the relationship that require attention, problems that go far beyond politics.

CNN, WTF are you doing? Go back to reporting the facts and stop making everything a vague opinion piece.
Maybe CNN just knows their audience 😉
 
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So enact a sitcom trope in order to get men to vote the way they want? Also America has secret ballot so all the men gave to do is lie and they're good to go.
 
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Women don't owe men a thing. If anything, the statistics show, we are owed. It's time to make sex and sexual pleasure female-centric. Each couple, each woman, will have to find out what female sexual adventure and pleasure means for them. But the idea of a sex strike suggests exciting possibilities beyond the bedroom. What would not just sex but the world look like if we prioritized what women want in every sex act? How might the political, social, and sexual landscapes all shift if we acknowledged that in many cases, the server is unsatisfied -- and actually believed it was important to set things right?
Anyway, IDK what the OP article is going on about. I make dudes eat my pussy or I won't fuck them. It's very simple to tell men what to do in regards with sex because they'll listen 99.9% of the time. If a woman actually wrote that paragraph she is pathetic and or retarded.
 
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Since they believe that Trump voters are virgins/Incel basement drewellers who never had sex how will this change in any way? If people vote for trump because they dont get sex what will happen to other men who then also do not get sex? Will they also vote for Trump? Anyway this article/opinion piece is textbook journalism today and totally stupid. And people wonder why Journalism today is the most mistrusted sector in the whole world....
 

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Since they believe that Trump voters are virgins/Incel basement drewellers who never had sex how will this change in any way? If people vote for trump because they dont get sex what will happen to other men who then also do not get sex? Will they also vote for Trump? Anyway this article/opinion piece is textbook journalism today and totally stupid. And people wonder why Journalism today is the most mistrusted sector in the whole world....
It's an op-ed. Calm down. Trump has op-eds where he lied the entire way through. Journalistic standards aren't the same for these articles.
 
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I guess this will be a debate until the end of time. Far greater men than I have succumb to a females charms and lost everything because of it. On the other hand sometimes women want it from us more than we want it from them.
 
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Anyway, IDK what the OP article is going on about. I make dudes eat my pussy or I won't fuck them. It's very simple to tell men what to do in regards with sex because they'll listen 99.9% of the time. If a woman actually wrote that paragraph she is pathetic and or retarded.
I mean, "make" isn't a very nice word when talking about anything sexual, but at the same time, I get where you're coming from. Especially if someone expects head but doesn't want to give it. WTF is that?

The only women that can easily pull this off, are those with a partner that has yet to fully satisfy them. #RealTalk
That doesn't really seem to be true for the writer of the article:

It's time to make sex and sexual pleasure female-centric. Each couple, each woman, will have to find out what female sexual adventure and pleasure means for them. But the idea of a sex strike suggests exciting possibilities beyond the bedroom. What would not just sex but the world look like if we prioritized what women want in every sex act? How might the political, social, and sexual landscapes all shift if we acknowledged that in many cases, the server is unsatisfied -- and actually believed it was important to set things right?
Aside from being creeped out by the ironically sexist idea of referring to women having sex as "servers," if you're with a guy who isn't, um, let's say "goal oriented" outside of his own sexual desires, that's kind of on you. And you're sexual PARTNERS. Women are not servers, and sex isn't something that happens "to" a woman. That sort of language has always struck me as anything but pro equality.
 
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I've seen a few videos where a certain person says sex has been reduced to a transactional act and this mentality is unhealthy and counterproductive.

It strikes me as remarkable that this author feels that one gender assumes ownership of this product, petitions its denial whilst at the same time petitioning its demand for it by those assuming ownership.
And then wraps it up in an angle about politics.

This seems highly disingenuous to all genders involved.
 

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Watching US from Europe.
Majority of white women voted Trump, where did that strange "women are Democrat" idea come from? K. hearings?

...objectify women in harmful ways...
Is there a single serious study showing it is indeed harmful?

My stance: people of both genders need sexual objects, those made for females have less visibility:
Publishing’s Dirty Secret: erotic fiction

Because women have been able to contribute IMMENSELY to science and technology since gaining more equal opportunities in the last 100yrs.
Well, no, not really. The first time a women got Nobel in Physics was 100 years ago. The second time was this year.
Setting aside the "why does it happen in physics, but not biology" question, even statistically, there is barely any progress, it's just dubious accusations getting louder.
 
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I've seen a few videos where a certain person says sex has been reduced to a transactional act and this mentality is unhealthy and counterproductive.

It strikes me as remarkable that this author feels that one gender assumes ownership of this product, petitions its denial whilst at the same time petitioning its demand for it by those assuming ownership.
And then wraps it up in an angle about politics.

This seems highly disingenuous to all genders involved.
That's Engels' ideology at the core: women own their "sexual production" which men have exploited since before the dawn of history. Therefore, a socialist revolution could be used to re-balance. He envisioned a world where 'family' no longer exists and instead women who raised children would be compensated by the state and the children would be educated by the state. Does that sound similar to any modern-day artifice?
 
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Lol if your chick doesn't want to do the dead anymore. See how fast those guys move to the next. Mass divorce inc.

Woman thinking they have any power over guys are just fooling themselves.
 
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The rest of the social fabric has been torn to shreds. Might as well completely destroy on life support marriage over some politics slap fight. If your partner is leveraging sex for political affiliation it is time to get out. I am sure all the insanity will just go down when everyone is from some broken home over midterms.
 
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I actually support this. Take away the sex advantage and women will see what's it's really like to be equal to a man... and they won't like it... they'll be begging to come back into our kitchens within days...
 
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I actually support this. Take away the sex advantage and women will see what's it's really like to be equal to a man... and they won't like it... they'll be begging to come back into our kitchens within days...
Feminism/"Equality" goes out the window whenever there is a sinking ship. :messenger_savoring:
 
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I make dudes eat my pussy or I won't fuck them.
I make women suck my dick or I won't fuck them - Asshole thing to say and I'd get so much eat for saying it. But if you're a woman you can say stuff like that.
That said I do love going down on woman and I do it voluntarily, but if a woman tried to make me do it I'd tell her to fuck right off.
 

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I think my wife voted for Rubio in the primary because he is "cute."

Most couples vote similarly anyway...not because one has undue influence on the other, but just becuase they normally have similar class, racial, and social backgrounds, which is how they ended up together in the first place.
 
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But wouldn't it be more a problem for leftists? I mean republicans don't suffer from women strikes no?
Republicans strike me as sexually repressed. There desire to impose their morals on people, wanting to control what happens with a women's own vagina and losing their minds when titty shows up on TV. Yes they are likely also the ones complaining about breastfeeding in public.
 
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There desire to impose their morals on people
It's not just the Republicans doing this.

wanting to control what happens with a women's own vagina
If you're referring to abortion, the issue is about conservatives defining the fetus as a human being from conception, thus making abortion murder. No one cares about their vaginas. They care about not murdering people.

losing their minds when titty shows up on TV
Far worse than losing your mind when a white guy wears a mexican halloween costume, or writing think pieces about how maybe killing women in CoD should be considered rape.
 
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