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The L continues.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/health-care-bill-wednesday/index.html

Washington (CNN)BREAKING: "Repeal and delay" amendment which would roll back Obamacare without a replacement in place is defeated in the Senate.

The vote was 45-55, with seven Republicans opposing the measure.

 

[Fracas]

r e k t

 

[Veelk]

Jesus. This should never be that close.

 

[GK86]

Fifth time the charm, guys.

 

[Farsi]

Good.

 

[Steel]

I'm tired of winning. So. Very. Tired.

 

[The Technomancer]

Jesus. This should never be that close.

Seven Republicans against is a great result. I mean, their reasons for not supporting it probably aren't great, but that's not close by these standards

 

[FunkyMunkey]

45 cases of attempted murder

 

[sflufan]

"Skinny Repeal" will be the one that passes.

 

[Slayven]

Jesus. This should never be that close.

That is my first thought

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Wait, what? Didn't they pass yesterday to go through with discussing the Repeal?

Or did they spend a whole 24 hours discussing it and repeal it today? What is happening

 

[Prodigal Son]

ayy

 

[Prompto]

"Skinny Repeal" will be the one that passes.

How bad would that be?

 

[VendettaRed07]

Skinny repeal will have the numbers for sure then given that count.

 

[Sephzilla]

Trump's going to have another public message begging to repeal Obamacare with sick people literally dying behind him next, isn't he?

 

[Steel]

Also, this was apparently finally a bridge too far for the spine-challenged John McCain. He was a no.

 

[Rayis]

PerchedT for the angry tweets

 

[LiK]

LLLLLLLLL

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

Is this a "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" situation?

 

[madstarr12]

Lol, keep winning those losses.

 

[BronsonLee]

Guessing this is the 'get your votes on the record' vote

 

[BoboBrazil]

Trump gonna be salty. Maybe he will fire Sessions to relieve some stress later on today.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Stop with the Ls and memes guys. This means nothing yet.

 

[DieH@rd]

 

[sflufan]

How bad would that be?

Let's call it the "ACA Death Spiral Act" because it largely leaves the ACA intact but removes the individual mandate which means that no insurance company in its right mind would want to continue participating in the exchanges.

 

[Intheflorsh]

We are so lucky Republicans are so incompetent.

 

[NateDrake]

Even McCain voted No on this.

 

[Ithil]

They will just keep tossing variations until one of them passes.
It must be comforting to know that the GOP is so concerned about the lives of Americans that their ideal healthcare is "Whatever we can get to the bare minimum of 50 votes".

 

[BobTheFork]

Oh...good.

The Poli thread seems to think Ryan was on board and that was the end of it.


...or was that skinny repeal?

 

[astroturfing]

just end all healthcare, get it over with. repurpose all hospitals as megachurches and let GOD take care of the people. who needs a stupid "MRI" or "CT"??

 

[John Rabbit]

How bad would that be?

It'll basically starve the ACA into oblivion but the GOP has to own it.

Wait, what? Didn't they pass yesterday to go through with discussing the Repeal?

Or did they spend a whole 24 hours discussing it and repeal it today? What is happening

They moved forward with the debate on the bill from the House (the AHCA). Meaning they voted to vote.
Then they voted on the Senate-amended AHCA bill (the BCRA) which required 60 votes because they didn't have a CBO score. That failed.
Today they voted on a "partial" repeal of Obamacare in 2 years without a replacement. That needed 50 votes and failed.
Now they are likely to put up a "skinny repeal" which looks like it will remove the individual mandate, the employer mandate, and medical device tax.

 

[Steel]

Wait, what? Didn't they pass yesterday to go through with discussing the Repeal?

Or did they spend a whole 24 hours discussing it and repeal it today? What is happening

No, they passed yesterday to debate and add amendments which will lead into a vote-a-rama which will lead to votes on amendments every few minutes. They voted against the BCRA Repeal and Replace yesterday. They voted against full repeal today. Later today or tomorrow they'll vote against Skinny Repeal. Then the skinnier repeal of Graham-Cassidy is up next(all it does is allow states to adjust tax penalties for non-buyers and allow them to opt out of Obamacare for their own system that meets certain requirements). Then Dems will start throwing shit out.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

It's not over till it's over. They're throwing hail marys at this point.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

What's the outlook on the Skinny Repeal? How many Republicans have spoken against it on record?

 

[iammeiam]

Wait, what? Didn't they pass yesterday to go through with discussing the Repeal?

Or did they spend a whole 24 hours discussing it and repeal it today? What is happening

They passed a thing that will let them spend a while proposing and voting on bullshit amendments that don't mean anything; at the end McConnell will put up his own amendment which will be the only one that matters. The votes right now are misleading--those seven Republicans can pivot and vote for whatever McConnell shovels out later, and try to cover themselves with their no votes on full repeal.

Amendments will come and go, but literally the only votes that matter were the ones yesterday and the ones on the bill including McConnell's final amendment that can literally wipe out the results of every other vote and replace it with new shit.

 

[Funyarinpa]

Ha ha
Fuck off
Die in a ditch

Dipshits

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Republicans are gonna keep fuckin' this chicken every day until midterms, aren't they?

 

[Autodidact]

Wait, what? Didn't they pass yesterday to go through with discussing the Repeal?

Or did they spend a whole 24 hours discussing it and repeal it today? What is happening

Yesterday they voted to proceed to debate on a number of bills, several of which have now failed.

If one passes, it'll be the Skinny Repeal.

 

[Toa TAK]

Even McCain voted No on this.

To the surprise of no one.

(Actually that's not true).

 

[Azuran]

*yawn*

Someone please run over Mitch McConnell so he can go lay in a hospital bed supported by his health care paid by taxpayers. At least that will keep his turtle ass off the floor for a while.

 

[sflufan]

What's the outlook on the Skinny Repeal? How many Republicans have spoken against it on record?

It will pass pretty handily (well, maybe Rand Paul won't vote for it).

 

[greepoman]

Anyone know when they might vote on skinny repeal? That's the one to watch.

 

[DrForester]

How many more things will they be voting on in the next 48 hours?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Even McCain voted No on this.

About fucking time..

 

[BreezyLimbo]

No, they passed yesterday to debate and add amendments which will lead into a vote-a-rama which will lead to votes on amendments every few minutes. They voted against the BCRA Repeal and Replace yesterday. They voted against full repeal today. Later today or tomorrow they'll vote against Skinny Repeal. Then the skinnier repeal of Graham-Cassidy is up next(all it does is allow states to adjust tax penalties for non-buyers and allow them to opt out of Obamacare for their own system that meets certain requriements). Then Dems will start throwing shit out.

They passed a thing that will let them spend a while proposing and voting on bullshit amendments that don't mean anything; at the end McConnell will put up his own amendment which will be the only one that matters. The votes right now are misleading--those seven Republicans can pivot and vote for whatever McConnell shovels out later, and try to cover themselves with their no votes on full repeal.

Amendments will come and go, but literally the only votes that matter were the ones yesterday and the ones on the bill including McConnell's final amendment that can literally wipe out the results of every other vote and replace it with new shit.

So it's basically a Lightning Round.

 

[BlazinSkatinAxel]

Tom Price, you're fired.

 

[GK86]

Repeal and Replace
Repeal and Delay
Repeal and Pray

 

[j_k_redtail]

How bad would that be?

It's the latest terrible idea in a long line of terrible GOP ideas.

https://twitter.com/Atul_Gawande/status/890198874719211520

 

[skullmuffins]

Oh...good.

The Poli thread seems to think Ryan was on board and that was the end of it.


...or was that skinny repeal?

that was the skinny repeal. Nobody (not even the GOP) expected the straight repeal to pass.