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Conduit 2 for Wii.
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grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
So Nintendo Power's "see it or turn in your Nintendo card" world exclusive was Conduit 2? That's even more disappointing than the predicted Mario Party 9.
comedy bomb
Banned
VOOK said:
There's orange bullets separating each title, they just didn't show up in the scan.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
He posted the cover ffs!minus_273 said:
You guys are terrible. The conduit may have been overhyped by IGN and the Nintendo Press conference, but it was a solid outing. It was pretty shallow but I had fun with the single player and the online multiplayer.
This is a day 1 for me though. The fact that it has 2-4 player split-screen sells me. It will make it the ONLY local multiplayer FPS on wii to date (unless some shovelware takes the crown) other than the first Red Steel. Red Steel 1 was a lot of fun in multiplayer if you get over the controls, so I can only imagine Conduit 2 will be better.
Paint me excited.
This is a day 1 for me though. The fact that it has 2-4 player split-screen sells me. It will make it the ONLY local multiplayer FPS on wii to date (unless some shovelware takes the crown) other than the first Red Steel. Red Steel 1 was a lot of fun in multiplayer if you get over the controls, so I can only imagine Conduit 2 will be better.
Paint me excited.
Amir0x said:
Pretty sure that would be done by 2KPlay, unless you're saying 2KPlay would outsource to HVS, which isn't out of the realm of possibility (e.g. IronMan 2).
Well with The Conduit as a guide, I'll be waiting for the < 6 months $20 price. Controls are still going to be good, and I'm interested in seeing the continuation of the story. Wonder whether they'll wrap the story up in two or shoot for an open-end for a not-likely-to-happen The Conduit 3.
Also, I just got my Nintendo Power for April. Sheesh! :lol
The Abominable Snowman said:
I hear Call of Duty 4 is good, but I haven't started it, yet.
hatchx said:
Apparently Quantum of Solace does. As does the WiiWare water pistol FPS, IIRC.
comedy bomb
Banned
Talwind said:
I wouldn't know where to start as I have not been following the game. It certainly looks pretty though.
I can understand if you don't like it, MH isn't for everyone, but that doesn't make the game shit.Cow Mengde said:
For a start, you are you think is "clunky" is actually better described as "deliberate". In reality the controls are pretty smooth and responsive; you just have to a half decent sense of timing. It's not a NG or GoW type affair where you can type out an entire combo in before the first strike hits and then watch the whole thing play itself. In MH, if you hit the attack or evade button during an animation downtime then the button press is completely disregarded (Much like how PS1 and N64 games did it). You need to hit the button at the right time and when you do, you'll get a smooth, instantaneous reaction. Look at the on screen animations, they'll highlight the exact windows for you.
For example, If you want to perform a 2nd strike straight after a first strike, then hitting the attack button in the middle of the swing will do nothing. Instead you have to wait until the moment in the animation between where the swing ends and the character returns to ready stance. If you hit the button during that window, then you'll be treated to an instantaneous reaction. If you're timing sucks, then you can compensate by quickly mashing the button around the window and that'll work too.
Now if this isn't for you, that's fine. However many people do enjoy MH's unique take on combat mechanics so don't act like you're opinion is the only one.
Sorry, it was Medal of Honor: Vanguard.donny2112 said:
comedy bomb
Banned
donny2112 said:
It's unknown if the original version of The Grinder even exists anymore. :/
Ace. TCon and MWR are probably like my two most played Wii games. I loved the online MP of the first a lot, which in my opinion was more fun than COD4 (that is, before people started exploiting map glitches in TCon). The new stuff sounds good, and hopefully they will pay more attention to map and weapon glitches this time. Day one for me. 
GitarooMan
Member
I will probably check this out. I didn't think Conduit was that bad, although there are some ridiculous balancing issues and questionable level design. I think the massive overhype by places like IGN and GAF really didn't do it any favors. For some reason people were duped into expecting some crazy AAA Wii shooter from a dev who had no pedigree of the sort and previews that outside the laughable hype never showed anything but a standard FPS with solid Wii graphics.
EmCeeGramr
Member
rpmurphy said:Ace. TCon and MWR are probably like my two most played Wii games. I loved the online MP of the first a lot, which in my opinion was more fun than COD4 (that is, before people started exploiting map glitches in TCon). The new stuff sounds good, and hopefully they will pay more attention to map and weapon glitches this time. Day one for me.
HELLZ YEAH, TCON BRO
Conrad Link
Member
I actually wanted Mario Party 9. ;(
After Red Steel 2 I don't doubt any developers chance to completely turn around a sequel. I'm not saying they will here, I've only spent like 5 seconds on the Conduit so far so I have no idea of its quality, I'm just saying look at RS2 to see that it is possible.
After Red Steel 2 I don't doubt any developers chance to completely turn around a sequel. I'm not saying they will here, I've only spent like 5 seconds on the Conduit so far so I have no idea of its quality, I'm just saying look at RS2 to see that it is possible.
Tentatively looking forward to this.
The Conduit had a lot of potential. The actual moment to moment shooting felt as good as any FPS ever has on a console, and the level of customization in controls and HUD needs to become a standard. Unfortunately, the actual level design, art style and enemy encounters weren't all that great. It's like the game was a couple of years ahead of the curve in some ways, but ten years behind in others.
If they can get the problems ironed out, the Conduit franchise could be something special. I will probably give this game a shot.
The Conduit had a lot of potential. The actual moment to moment shooting felt as good as any FPS ever has on a console, and the level of customization in controls and HUD needs to become a standard. Unfortunately, the actual level design, art style and enemy encounters weren't all that great. It's like the game was a couple of years ahead of the curve in some ways, but ten years behind in others.
If they can get the problems ironed out, the Conduit franchise could be something special. I will probably give this game a shot.
comedy bomb
Banned
ivysaur12 said:
Another game I haven't really been following but here goes:
- primarily side scrolling but at certain spots you can jump to foreground /background
- belly dances transform you into a monkey, an elephant or a mermaid
- upgrades for animal forms can be earned
- hair whip upgrades
- 3 types of magic: fireball, pike ball and crush puff
- looks amazing, controls great
- great sense of humor
- estimated length is four and a half hours
I enjoyed the first game. HVS's work with standardizing the controls has earned my respect.
There are 2 major flaws in the first game:
-Story presentation was non-existent. I feel that had this been better, every other flaw in the single player campaign would have been overlooked. The character and level designs were fairly good (or perhaps, those are areas where other more popular games also struggle in), but the artwork for the environments was both poor and repetitive.
- The netcode was broken. I had lot of fun with the multi-player, there were a lot of modes and lag wasn't any worse than any other FPS. I could tolerate the slooooowww match-making, but the glitch that caused you to start outside the map and thus reset was terrible. The other glitches and then the hackers finally killed it for me.
What I'd like to see for The Conduit 2:
-M+ controls and melee weapons.
-Make the weapon-merge glitch a standard gameplay mechanic. It actually fits within the game's concept. Machine-gun Rockets can not return...as is.
-More weapons (people seem to like variety, even if it only means minor stat differences between weapons)
-Better multi-player maps. Even though I enjoyed it, I can see how others may not have liked the isometric designs of the first game's maps. Variety is good.
-Test and protect your code and don't forget to leave yourself room to fix glitches.
There are 2 major flaws in the first game:
-Story presentation was non-existent. I feel that had this been better, every other flaw in the single player campaign would have been overlooked. The character and level designs were fairly good (or perhaps, those are areas where other more popular games also struggle in), but the artwork for the environments was both poor and repetitive.
- The netcode was broken. I had lot of fun with the multi-player, there were a lot of modes and lag wasn't any worse than any other FPS. I could tolerate the slooooowww match-making, but the glitch that caused you to start outside the map and thus reset was terrible. The other glitches and then the hackers finally killed it for me.
What I'd like to see for The Conduit 2:
-M+ controls and melee weapons.
-Make the weapon-merge glitch a standard gameplay mechanic. It actually fits within the game's concept. Machine-gun Rockets can not return...as is.
-More weapons (people seem to like variety, even if it only means minor stat differences between weapons)
-Better multi-player maps. Even though I enjoyed it, I can see how others may not have liked the isometric designs of the first game's maps. Variety is good.
-Test and protect your code and don't forget to leave yourself room to fix glitches.
AceBandage
Banned
I really liked The Conduit, despite the flaws.
Really interested to see what they do with the sequel.
Really interested to see what they do with the sequel.
Anyway after ditching The Conduit for Reflex as my Wii online shooter I have to say I have happier memories of The Conduit.
While The Conduit is more basic I definitely preferred the weapons. They were just way more fun than real life weapons. Also with more health the game could get way more chaotic. I can get killed way more easily on MW but because of that it's not so much fun to mess around with other players.
My greatest memory from The Conduit was I was playing an explosive match and my team was leading by a lot and because of this I decided to fuck with the other team. There was a glass barrier separating me and another player and we both had rocket launchers. He couldn't reach me with a grenade and if he got any closer he would obviously die moving around the barrier to get to me. So all I did was jump up and down while he stared and eventually I see a rocket come behind him and kill him and I see my teammate walk passed his body. It was just so unexpected and I was jumping around for more than a couple minutes.
Hopefully HVS can improve on The Conduit because it was a pretty solid game that could get annoying at times.
While The Conduit is more basic I definitely preferred the weapons. They were just way more fun than real life weapons. Also with more health the game could get way more chaotic. I can get killed way more easily on MW but because of that it's not so much fun to mess around with other players.
My greatest memory from The Conduit was I was playing an explosive match and my team was leading by a lot and because of this I decided to fuck with the other team. There was a glass barrier separating me and another player and we both had rocket launchers. He couldn't reach me with a grenade and if he got any closer he would obviously die moving around the barrier to get to me. So all I did was jump up and down while he stared and eventually I see a rocket come behind him and kill him and I see my teammate walk passed his body. It was just so unexpected and I was jumping around for more than a couple minutes.
Hopefully HVS can improve on The Conduit because it was a pretty solid game that could get annoying at times.
sevenchaos
Banned
If Kevin Sorbo is there I will be there.
What was the weapons-merge glitch?JJConrad said:
Also I'll add some:
- Make the shotgun quick-shot glitch part of the game, but only two shots at a time and/or have the firing rate decrease after each shot. I know it sounds nooby, but quick-shotting was pretty awesome.
- No lock-on, or have an expert game mode or advanced ranks that disables it. In return, maybe give us the option to add a HUD unit that shows the HP bar of the enemy you're aiming at.
- Rooftop access in at least some of the open maps.
evilromero
Member
Lol TCon.
Basically by restocking at an ammo dump, picking up a new weapon, and switching weapons all at once, the game would register that you where firing one weapon but kept the ammo the other. There were a few more technicalities involved; you had to press everything in a certain order and changing the weapon for any reason would reset the merged weapon to return to its normal state.rpmurphy said:What was the weapons-merge glitch?
Also I'll add some:
- Make the shotgun quick-shot glitch part of the game, but only two shots at a time and/or have the firing rate decrease after each shot. I know it sounds nooby, but quick-shotting was pretty awesome.
- No lock-on, or have an expert game mode or advanced ranks that disables it. In return, maybe give us the option to add a HUD unit that shows the HP bar of the enemy you're aiming at.
- Rooftop access in at least some of the open maps.
You could combine any two weapons together, but some combos could crash your game. The most common and most annoying combination was combining the machine gun and rocket launcher together which resulted in endless volleys of rockets flying all over the stage. I preferred combining the handgun and assault rifle together, myself.
Looking back, The Conduit was one of the most disappointing titles on the Wii in my opinion especially given the amount of hype and early positive previews of the game.
The graphics were pretty much ruined by the generic art style, the story was uninteresting and didn't really explain much of anything (it crammed in too many cliche story elements), it was hard to care for the one-dimensional characters, the voice acting was average at best, the music was forgettable, and the level design was uninspiring. I also freaking hate it when FPS games includes small, fast and annoying enemies.
The ASE also was an underused device. It was kind of cool for being a glorified flash light and being able to hacking into computers as well as revealing certain invisible enemies but it could have been better implemented.
It was just a medicore cookie-cutter FPS in my opinion. On the bright side, it did deliver on its controls and customization feature . Quite frankly, I still own the game because of the online play despite the occasionally terrible spawn glitch. However, the only maps I like are streets, sanctum,infirmary and warehouse. I dislike complex, pentagon and bunker with a passion. It gets really annoying how one team will almost ways camp at their base in maps like the pentagon.
So Conduit 2 takes place in Atlantis? I hope HVS does what Ubisoft did with Red Steel 2 and offer a signicantly different sequel. I'd also like the majority of enemies to act more like aliens and not aliens masquerading as humans carrying gimmicky, organic guns.
Overall, I appriciate HVS being committed to wanting to make great core games on the Wii, but I think their the type of developer whose talent can't match their ambitions. Please HVS, prove me wrong.
The graphics were pretty much ruined by the generic art style, the story was uninteresting and didn't really explain much of anything (it crammed in too many cliche story elements), it was hard to care for the one-dimensional characters, the voice acting was average at best, the music was forgettable, and the level design was uninspiring. I also freaking hate it when FPS games includes small, fast and annoying enemies.
The ASE also was an underused device. It was kind of cool for being a glorified flash light and being able to hacking into computers as well as revealing certain invisible enemies but it could have been better implemented.
It was just a medicore cookie-cutter FPS in my opinion. On the bright side, it did deliver on its controls and customization feature . Quite frankly, I still own the game because of the online play despite the occasionally terrible spawn glitch. However, the only maps I like are streets, sanctum,infirmary and warehouse. I dislike complex, pentagon and bunker with a passion. It gets really annoying how one team will almost ways camp at their base in maps like the pentagon.
So Conduit 2 takes place in Atlantis? I hope HVS does what Ubisoft did with Red Steel 2 and offer a signicantly different sequel. I'd also like the majority of enemies to act more like aliens and not aliens masquerading as humans carrying gimmicky, organic guns.
Overall, I appriciate HVS being committed to wanting to make great core games on the Wii, but I think their the type of developer whose talent can't match their ambitions. Please HVS, prove me wrong.
Metal Gear?!
Member
I think this is worth something just for the split screen play, something that Red Steel 2 completely ditched (its not really a FPS as well) and the otherwise good COD ports haven't been able to pull off.
Basically it would switch ammo and shooting rate of weapons. Imagine the abuse there would be when you could combine a weapon with a fast firing rate and a large clip with a rocket launcher.rpmurphy said:What was the weapons-merge glitch?
Also I'll add some:
- Make the shotgun quick-shot glitch part of the game, but only two shots at a time and/or have the firing rate decrease after each shot. I know it sounds nooby, but quick-shotting was pretty awesome.
- No lock-on, or have an expert game mode or advanced ranks that disables it. In return, maybe give us the option to add a HUD unit that shows the HP bar of the enemy you're aiming at.
- Rooftop access in at least some of the open maps.
As someone who prefers the Wii pointer for controlling FPSes, I enjoyed the Conduit and I think it's a fairly solid game, though unpolished. The single player was challenging and fun, the ASE was nice(except for the mines, really irritating), and the story was decent, with great voice acting by Kevin Sorbo and William Morgan Sheppard(I thought Mark Sheppard's accent came out too strongly).
The multiplayer was also really fun, when it worked. The matchmaking was incredibly slow, and I was kind of shocked at how the void glitch actually passed through QA. It isn't something that happens once in a while to a small percentage of players, it's actually a really common glitch that made the multiplayer unplayable for long stretches of time. Wii Speak functionality was cool, and I got to use it a few times playing with gaffers.
Graphically, it was a technically good looking game, but the art was really generic. This didn't bother me too much though, since I really enjoyed the gameplay and the control options were a big improvement over previous Wii shooters.
I'm totally down for an improved sequel, and we'll see about The Grinder, don't know how the Wii version will turn out.
The multiplayer was also really fun, when it worked. The matchmaking was incredibly slow, and I was kind of shocked at how the void glitch actually passed through QA. It isn't something that happens once in a while to a small percentage of players, it's actually a really common glitch that made the multiplayer unplayable for long stretches of time. Wii Speak functionality was cool, and I got to use it a few times playing with gaffers.
Graphically, it was a technically good looking game, but the art was really generic. This didn't bother me too much though, since I really enjoyed the gameplay and the control options were a big improvement over previous Wii shooters.
I'm totally down for an improved sequel, and we'll see about The Grinder, don't know how the Wii version will turn out.
BurritoBushido
Member
needs two things: motion plus support and to be actually interesting